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Fukushima Triggers Jump in Airline Pilot/Passenger Heart Attacks, Cancers, Radiation Symptoms An entire cruise ship gets sick, and now reports of air travelers with various symptoms of radiation exposure! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOtxx7zpyz0&feature=youtu.be |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching.
But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. I have nothing against nuclear power. There is a risk involved with any type of power offered today. The biggest risk tho is the stifling of technologies in favor of profits thru crony capitalism to the large energy corporations of oil and gas..... the petro dollar! |
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Also sea life has been affected and you have the US government as a whole helping to cover for it damaging anything here. The radiation's made it's way to Cali by way of the water (particles carried on oceanic currents) so we have a whole ecological disaster going on (Again... We had a spill in the gulf already and our fracking has been causing loads of damage.) The best part? After the Japanese PM made statements to switch out of Nuclear power they basically decided to ignore it and keep right on as is. The Japanese Dem party even called trying to end the use of nuclear power "unrealistic". Now that's a great win for nuke power and a bad call of the people and it all helps to suppress clear renewable energy from cropping up. Fishing's also taken a hit by this too (Here and in Japan).
Given the nature of the states and nuclear power which basically is: We had a virtual moratorium on it, that we are near the shelf life for most of our plants in the country, there's no safe disposal of the waste material and that we've already breathed life back into the plants in 2010 when 2 new ones were built in Georgia (Obama pushed it and one thing to keep in minds is our actual policy on nuclear power is to deregulate it so we don't have to pay for upkeep), not talking about this here keeps people from putting things together here. Also, with job creation from the 2 plants, it made no real dent in the country wide issue of "50% on of below poverty level". Also, GE had meds for radiation sickness so the US already has a corporate drop off for the people if things get worse. Hell, GE got radioactive drugs passed by the FDA (<---Monsanto runs it and the government as a whole enables monsanto). Reaganomically it works for GE to make money off a potential disaster, in actuality it doesn't work for the people. It also mirrors off how healthcare works here. We only have "pro provider" systems that have been able to run on "We'll call our price and let human psychology of 'I want to live' cover the means people will go thru to pay" since clinton and gingrich made it a business instead of solidifying it as a need. |
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I have nothing against nuclear power. There is a risk involved with any type of power offered today. It's called "nuclear waste", what do you do with it? New Mexico is really serious, but that is plutonium from weapons with some supposed 10,000 year half life. And what do we do with those spent fuel rods, no recycling beyond a certain point but they remain lethal of centuries. Where do we store them? They still generate heat and if not cooled become a real big problem. Speaking of cooling, if it involves water, sooner or later there will be leaks. You know the kind a mop and bucket wont help. |
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Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 02/26/14 12:34 PM
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I have nothing against nuclear power. There is a risk involved with any type of power offered today. It's called "nuclear waste", what do you do with it? New Mexico is really serious, but that is plutonium from weapons with some supposed 10,000 year half life. And what do we do with those spent fuel rods, no recycling beyond a certain point but they remain lethal of centuries. Where do we store them? They still generate heat and if not cooled become a real big problem. Speaking of cooling, if it involves water, sooner or later there will be leaks. You know the kind a mop and bucket wont help. I read an article (I'll try to find) about how most of the waste is actually put to use or neutralized. Problem is, most corporations consider it cheaper to dump and pay measly little fines (thanks to the EPA they control refusing to really do anything to prevent it). The military of course uses our troops to dump it in the ME countries on the battlefields and villages. After all, they are the enemy......right? (sadly you must wonder.....who are the real "culprits" in todays aggressions) I don't blame the troops, but without them as the messengers, blindly following orders of leadership, there is culpability on their part. As Henry Kissinger (just recently given yet another "peace" award for his work in promoting foreign relations) clearly stated once..."Military men are just blind, stupid animals, to be used in foreign policy." |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. safe enough... in 70 years, only 2 major problems, and only one was human error (Russia) |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. safe enough... in 70 years, only 2 major problems, and only one was human error (Russia) And you would be mistaken, you forgot 3 Mile Island to begin with, close to meltdown and what a mess to clean up. And then what about that bomb dropped off the coast of Spain? And then there was that other bomb dropped on the US by another bomber. And there have been so many "accidents" that have just been swept under the rug. But each and every incident that releases or almost releases radiation is a hazard to life on this planet. And you have no idea at the threats that are out there. There are many of the old reactors that are starting to have problems and will need to be shut down, but shutting them down doesn't negate the problems. The only safe nuclear energy is no nuclear energy. |
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I read an article (I'll try to find) about how most of the waste is actually put to use or neutralized. Problem is, most corporations consider it cheaper to dump and pay measly little fines (thanks to the EPA they control refusing to really do anything to prevent it). Most of the man made waste can't be neutralized. From an enhancement to use as nuclear fuel certain processes migrate it to weapons grade plutonium and once there, 10,000 years. Extremely dangerous material just in itself but if in large enough quantities and compressed, the big boom. The military of course uses our troops to dump it in the ME countries on the battlefields and villages. After all, they are the enemy......right? (sadly you must wonder.....who are the real "culprits" in todays aggressions) I don't blame the troops, but without them as the messengers, blindly following orders of leadership, there is culpability on their part. Yeah, tank ammo, spent uranium a very dense metal slices right through armor. But what about exposure? When harm to living beings is measured in microREMs, just what does spent mean? Takes five years to kill you? 20 years? As Henry Kissinger (just recently given yet another "peace" award for his work in promoting foreign relations) clearly stated once..."Military men are just blind, stupid animals, to be used in foreign policy." What do you expect from a member of the Bilderberg Group? |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. safe enough... in 70 years, only 2 major problems, and only one was human error (Russia) And you would be mistaken, you forgot 3 Mile Island to begin with, close to meltdown and what a mess to clean up. And then what about that bomb dropped off the coast of Spain? And then there was that other bomb dropped on the US by another bomber. And there have been so many "accidents" that have just been swept under the rug. But each and every incident that releases or almost releases radiation is a hazard to life on this planet. And you have no idea at the threats that are out there. There are many of the old reactors that are starting to have problems and will need to be shut down, but shutting them down doesn't negate the problems. The only safe nuclear energy is no nuclear energy. and thats your opinion.. i disagree... and how do you know what i know? seems like when someone disagrees with you, you start the "i know and you don't" routine.... we all have opinions, and none are the same... |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. safe enough... in 70 years, only 2 major problems, and only one was human error (Russia) And you would be mistaken, you forgot 3 Mile Island to begin with, close to meltdown and what a mess to clean up. And then what about that bomb dropped off the coast of Spain? And then there was that other bomb dropped on the US by another bomber. And there have been so many "accidents" that have just been swept under the rug. But each and every incident that releases or almost releases radiation is a hazard to life on this planet. And you have no idea at the threats that are out there. There are many of the old reactors that are starting to have problems and will need to be shut down, but shutting them down doesn't negate the problems. The only safe nuclear energy is no nuclear energy. and we are talking about power plants, not bombs... get a grip.. 3 mile island was nothing, handford was closer to blowing up than 3 mile ever was... new mexico? trace amounts found leaking, not a big deal... the "doom and gloom" reactions are for the liberal tree huggers... and that h bomb in georgia? never dropped, it was sold... did you really think they couldn't find it after it was dropped? after 50 years, wouldn't there be a trace of radiation coming from it? it was a lie, it was never jettisoned... |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. safe enough... in 70 years, only 2 major problems, and only one was human error (Russia) And you would be mistaken, you forgot 3 Mile Island to begin with, close to meltdown and what a mess to clean up. And then what about that bomb dropped off the coast of Spain? And then there was that other bomb dropped on the US by another bomber. And there have been so many "accidents" that have just been swept under the rug. But each and every incident that releases or almost releases radiation is a hazard to life on this planet. And you have no idea at the threats that are out there. There are many of the old reactors that are starting to have problems and will need to be shut down, but shutting them down doesn't negate the problems. The only safe nuclear energy is no nuclear energy. and thats your opinion.. i disagree... and how do you know what i know? seems like when someone disagrees with you, you start the "i know and you don't" routine.... we all have opinions, and none are the same... By what is posted. And then I do know because I take the time to check but in the case of Three Mile Island, I was involved. As for the bomb in Spain, I was trained. And when only half a story is posted, don't be surprised when someone provides the other half. |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. safe enough... in 70 years, only 2 major problems, and only one was human error (Russia) And you would be mistaken, you forgot 3 Mile Island to begin with, close to meltdown and what a mess to clean up. And then what about that bomb dropped off the coast of Spain? And then there was that other bomb dropped on the US by another bomber. And there have been so many "accidents" that have just been swept under the rug. But each and every incident that releases or almost releases radiation is a hazard to life on this planet. And you have no idea at the threats that are out there. There are many of the old reactors that are starting to have problems and will need to be shut down, but shutting them down doesn't negate the problems. The only safe nuclear energy is no nuclear energy. and thats your opinion.. i disagree... and how do you know what i know? seems like when someone disagrees with you, you start the "i know and you don't" routine.... we all have opinions, and none are the same... By what is posted. And then I do know because I take the time to check but in the case of Three Mile Island, I was involved. As for the bomb in Spain, I was trained. And when only half a story is posted, don't be surprised when someone provides the other half. i'll admit, i know nothing about a bomb in Spain, but i'm pretty sure it didn't detonate. |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. safe enough... in 70 years, only 2 major problems, and only one was human error (Russia) And you would be mistaken, you forgot 3 Mile Island to begin with, close to meltdown and what a mess to clean up. And then what about that bomb dropped off the coast of Spain? And then there was that other bomb dropped on the US by another bomber. And there have been so many "accidents" that have just been swept under the rug. But each and every incident that releases or almost releases radiation is a hazard to life on this planet. And you have no idea at the threats that are out there. There are many of the old reactors that are starting to have problems and will need to be shut down, but shutting them down doesn't negate the problems. The only safe nuclear energy is no nuclear energy. and we are talking about power plants, not bombs... get a grip.. 3 mile island was nothing, handford was closer to blowing up than 3 mile ever was... new mexico? trace amounts found leaking, not a big deal... the "doom and gloom" reactions are for the liberal tree huggers... and that h bomb in georgia? never dropped, it was sold... did you really think they couldn't find it after it was dropped? after 50 years, wouldn't there be a trace of radiation coming from it? it was a lie, it was never jettisoned... Really, so not a clue eh. And where did exploding come from? The OP was Fukushima and radiation sickness and effects. And what about Georgia, are you saying there was a conspiracy to sell an atomic bomb back in 1958? Talk about conspiracy theorist. Nah, I was referring to the accident over NC in 1961 where a bomb almost detonated, 260 Megatons. US nearly detonated atomic bomb over North Carolina – secret document "...and only one low-voltage switch prevented untold carnage." Radiation Protection "How does radiation cause health effects? Radioactive materials that decay spontaneously produce ionizing radiation, which has sufficient energy to strip away electrons from atoms (creating two charged ions) or to break some chemical bonds. Any living tissue in the human body can be damaged by ionizing radiation in a unique manner. The body attempts to repair the damage, but sometimes the damage is of a nature that cannot be repaired or it is too severe or widespread to be repaired. Also mistakes made in the natural repair process can lead to cancerous cells. The most common forms of ionizing radiation are alpha and beta particles, or gamma and X-rays." |
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Not to diminish any of the disasters that have or will happen in regards to Fukushima, I think this may be a little far reaching. But do not be mistaken, nuclear waste will be a huge problem for this world for centuries to come. Just at Fukushima there is 300 - 400 tons of leakage into the ocean on a daily basis. And how about the leak in New Mexico with a 10,000 year life cycle. And what about all these spent fuel rods if there should be a failure of the electric system. Nuclear, safe, clean power, not ever. safe enough... in 70 years, only 2 major problems, and only one was human error (Russia) And you would be mistaken, you forgot 3 Mile Island to begin with, close to meltdown and what a mess to clean up. And then what about that bomb dropped off the coast of Spain? And then there was that other bomb dropped on the US by another bomber. And there have been so many "accidents" that have just been swept under the rug. But each and every incident that releases or almost releases radiation is a hazard to life on this planet. And you have no idea at the threats that are out there. There are many of the old reactors that are starting to have problems and will need to be shut down, but shutting them down doesn't negate the problems. The only safe nuclear energy is no nuclear energy. and we are talking about power plants, not bombs... get a grip.. 3 mile island was nothing, handford was closer to blowing up than 3 mile ever was... new mexico? trace amounts found leaking, not a big deal... the "doom and gloom" reactions are for the liberal tree huggers... and that h bomb in georgia? never dropped, it was sold... did you really think they couldn't find it after it was dropped? after 50 years, wouldn't there be a trace of radiation coming from it? it was a lie, it was never jettisoned... Really, so not a clue eh. And where did exploding come from? The OP was Fukushima and radiation sickness and effects. And what about Georgia, are you saying there was a conspiracy to sell an atomic bomb back in 1958? Talk about conspiracy theorist. Nah, I was referring to the accident over NC in 1961 where a bomb almost detonated, 260 Megatons. US nearly detonated atomic bomb over North Carolina – secret document "...and only one low-voltage switch prevented untold carnage." Radiation Protection "How does radiation cause health effects? Radioactive materials that decay spontaneously produce ionizing radiation, which has sufficient energy to strip away electrons from atoms (creating two charged ions) or to break some chemical bonds. Any living tissue in the human body can be damaged by ionizing radiation in a unique manner. The body attempts to repair the damage, but sometimes the damage is of a nature that cannot be repaired or it is too severe or widespread to be repaired. Also mistakes made in the natural repair process can lead to cancerous cells. The most common forms of ionizing radiation are alpha and beta particles, or gamma and X-rays." fact is, it didn't detonate... and they never recovered the h bomb in Georgia, so apparently it's still there...lol and it was 4 megatons, not 260... and i take it you don't think 4 failsafes isn't good enough? it seems it was... but live and learn, they learned and made them all safer since... and that article seemed a bit slanted, making a bigger deal out of it than it really was... conspiracy theory? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18587608 |
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fact is, it didn't detonate... and they never recovered the h bomb in Georgia, so apparently it's still there...lol and it was 4 megatons, not 260... and i take it you don't think 4 failsafes isn't good enough? it seems it was... but live and learn, they learned and made them all safer since... and that article seemed a bit slanted, making a bigger deal out of it than it really was... conspiracy theory? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18587608 You're right it was 4 megatons, good thing there was a source provided, wouldn't want to intentionally mislead. But what about Georgia, they still haven't even admitted if that was a real or practice bomb and as nothing has been found, no foul. But that still does not address the issue, does it? There are accidents known and accidents unknown. There are leakages known and leakages hidden but either way the damage is there and will be there for a long time to come. But still, we haven't seen anything yet and hiding your head in the sand doesn't address the problem. Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository "The Department of Energy began studying Yucca Mountain in 1978 to determine whether it would be suitable for the nation's first long-term geologic repository for over 70,000 metric tons (69,000 long tons; 77,000 short tons) (150 million pounds) of spent nuclear fuel and high-level radioactive waste currently stored at 121 sites around the nation." 121 sites, all potential disasters given the right circumstances. Spent Fuel Storage in Pools and Dry Casks Key Points and Questions & Answers "According to the Congressional Research Service (using NEI data), there were 62,683 metric tons of commercial spent fuel accumulated in the United States as of the end of 2009. Of that total, 48,818 metric tons – or about 78 percent – were in pools. 13,856 metric tons – or about 22 percent – were stored in dry casks. The total increases by 2,000 to 2,400 tons annually." Wow, they fill me full of confidence. Nuclear waste: Keep out – for 100,000 years "We like to think of our architectural treasures as milestones of human progress. The Egyptian pyramids, say, or the Eiffel Tower. Perhaps we imagine a Planet of the Apes-like scenario where our ruined monuments will stand as testament to our civilisation long after we're gone. But what will most probably outlive anything else we have ever built will be our nuclear legacy." So keep your head in the sand, I prefer to be aware. And what is to come in the near future is a major source of concern. |
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