Sporran's rock! Had one given to me in Scotland I think, somewhere up there. Beautiful soft leather. Now I'd like to see these girls call those guys not manly lol.

I raised the question after reading a UK article discussing US males, and wondering if "Metro-male" attitudes / lifestyles are adopted because they appeal to women. Apparently not. So, why then?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2558269/Rise-American-metrosexual-How-modern-man-feels-empowered-abandon-traditional-masculine-sterotypes.html

The article is not well written but it refer to role changes that may be happening (at least in part).

was it a metro man who wrote the article,,,

(lol, metro man, makes me picture a superhero wit bodyguards )

anyway, perhaps where it is attractive to a female is in the sense that it is 'safe' and non threatening?

maybe some women feel more secure with that type of partner,,,??

"Merriam Webster Dictionary as: "a usually urban heterosexual male given to enhancing his personal appearance by fastidious grooming, beauty treatments, and fashionable clothes".

Urban Dictionary as: "A good-looking, fashionable young man who pays special attention to style and taste who displays the levels of care and pride in their appearance which is usually associated with women; but who are not deemed to be homo-sexual and are secure in their masculinity."

It looks to me like the writer of the article is talking about something a little different from the definition I see above. I look above and see worldly or well groomed, secure. I read the article and it takes me someplace else quickly. I have to say that if I read the article first before webster maybe I would go, hmmm?

Maybe I'm missing the meaning here. MG walks to measure his bicep (19") pretty happy with that. Next looks at his beard/goatee (11" long goatee at the moment)ok. Next biker appeal, can sport the Harley no problem. Yet is into music and art, likes shopping and could care less what someone wears or what color or sexual orientation moves them. Have zero desire to hit on men, but likes to have a murse when traveling. The duality is concerning :)

I'm so confused (do they know yet when I'm joking?)

The only thing I'm really sure about at the moment is that my under-arm smells so I better hop in the femininity maker and clean off using my manly old spice swagger body wash instead of my pure-castile all natural soap (citrus). Note to self: the bar of old spice is more manly unless in prison.

Good Lord, what if I scare away my Valentine? Well if I do that I can always start playing football or dress up like John Wayne. Oh no, but what about all the guys who use football talk as a sign of being all guy, maybe these guys are really "all gay" and didn't know how to say it. OMG these stinky guys (un-shaved of course) ordering their wifes to go get another beer while cutting the cheese and belching are just really waiting for someone to score a TD so they can ((Hug)).

I could rock a damn Colostomy bag if I wanted to. I would make it look trendy. . Oh well, gotta believe in your own swag, to be confident, right? ;) Heh. I like a guy who takes care of his appearance. It show's he's making an effort. I don't mean that he has to be or look rich. But I do like a guy who looks presentable. And I myself, try to put that very same amount of effort in.

The only time i'll be a metro-sexual, is if I get caught with my girlfriend making out on the Paris Underground? That could be fun though, as everyone would be getting an ' Eiffel ' of my ' Tower ' Ha ha

I find though, that no matter what we choose to wear, we're still judged for it. A man was saying how he'd love to dress in expensive clothes, but didn't dare, incase he got harrassed by his neighbourhood. So he just dressed casually, because he doesn't want the name-calling.

Most of my mates and their brothers, were involved in football hooliganism, which I flirted a bit with when I was younger. One rule of them though was dress smart and expensively at all times. Quite a few of my mates are still the same and younger guys and lassies comment in pubs and clubs that for older guys we certainly dress well.

Okay the truth...
Years back I dated a man who considered himself "metro". He was more than well groomed. (Never wore suit and tie tho). He smelled like heaven. (I remember not wanting to wash this one shirt I had because it smelled like him ) He had a murse but called it a messenger bag. Hated when I called it a murse. He didn't always carry it an he only ask me to hold it one time. (That was when I locked his house up with the keys still inside. He had to climb into a window.) He didn't get manicures either. With him being metro was more taking care of himself than bout looking fashionable. The reason why dating him was so good is because his healthy lifestyle rubbed off on me. I lost over 40 pounds while dating him not even trying and never felt better about myself. Even when it was over. I also worked with another man who called himself Metro. He wouldn't work in fear of getting dirty. He also carried a murse and he wore it like a woman carries her purse. I'd never date him and I'm sure the feeling was mutual! Lol!

So, is a woman shallow if she makes a fuss about always looking like a beauty queen?

...and there goes a melmac with the neutral shot!
I love this guy!

Having been called metro before and then seeing the definitions it kinda pisses me off a little to be associated with something I'm not. Thats why I prefer not to be labeled. They never fit. I don't buy name brand clothes or even shoes for that matter. I don't go out and spend money on grooming.I do all that myself. The only style I worry about is my own and what I need the clothing to do. Form follows function for me. I am not afraid to get dirty and spent most of my life doing manual labor. Hell I spent a decade running three cemeteries. I am secure in my masculinity tho and.... I do like when woman are outspoken and opinionated.

Humm I want a man that don't mind getting dirty but knows what a shower is for......I don't want one that does the dress clothes thing I want the jeans & T-Shirt guy that can make a pair of jeans and nice shirt look good......and has some manners....

I don't care if they are bald or long hair as long as it is clean and keep up.... as far as facial hair if they have a beard or mustache would rather have it groomed... Not into scruffy like they don't know how to use a razor.... keep it trimmed and neat...

When someone focuses attention on beauty and style I wonder if there is substance behind the fluff (but rarely investigate).

Jhon u r awzm guy :Like:

ha ha :) I bet you all looked the part.

"Metrosexual Males" is code for homosexual in the closet.

Most women I know, don't want the guy hiding behind her skirt when they're confronted by a mugger in the street.

Ok, so I got straighten out on the topic last night.

Basically from her point of view guys are pretty insecure about crossing the line over to the feminine side (not quite sure I even understood exactly what that means). I probably don't care so much about it because of traveling as much as I have and being exposed to a lot of culture diversity. Traveling opens one up to many different customs and the clothing that goes with these customs. Some countries the women are more flashy than the guys and in others the opposite (big deal).

After a lot of laughing we pretty much agreed that some males and females are way to worried about things that really only apply to their tiny world and have sticks so far up their butts they should be "on the tops of barns displayed as weathervanes". These close minded people are the ones we agreed to stay away from.

When people talk about closets, I wonder what closet they are in to make such comments. What made their comfort level so afraid of the rest of the world. These are the same people years ago who didn't understand the american indian so they were slaughtered, or the tribes so they were inslaved. These people are not comfortable with their own sexuality so must condemn those who are different, and they take it all the way to the point of even clothing, hair or even personal grooming.

Where do we get this odd temptation to judge the world as if we have the answers? We look at someone different and call "them" wrong without ever getting to know them. Ever getting to see that in most cases their believe and customs go far deeper than our euro-america one.

Are we really that afraid of others, to the place that if they look a certain way they must be sexualy off. And who are we to look in their bedroom anyway? Don't get me wrong having a guy curl up to me is not my idea of a good time, but that's of one's own choosing, as long as they don't choose me.

I don't know what the codes are but people should be allowed to dress or take care of themselves however they wish without labels.

Also as a note to Viper, I've only seen two fights where it involved gay guys vs straight and both times the straight guys had the big mouths and the gay guys, in both cases, kicked the crap out of them.

You know the more I think about it, as much trouble as it got me in, I'm glad I was the guy on the bus who stuck up for the others who couldn't defend themselves. I don't remember ever having a fight in school where it was me against someone else, it was always me against the bully. I'm also glad my big brother was the toughest guy in school :-), of course that didn't help me when he was mad at me.

I don't mind putting some dress clothes on to go out somewhere nice but usually I shave and wear jeans, button down shirt, and cowboys boots, its bland but its me.Some guys can pull it off they are debonair I'm not one of those but each to their own, I don't look different at them, everyone has got a style.

Well said ;)...