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Since time is dilated (stretched) also, time slows as the center of the black hole is reached approaching no time movement at all.
Now, that is a flaw in theory if there ever was one. Time isn't something that is tangible. Instead, time is a metric, a measurement. they don't understand that concept... apparently, a perception can affect all matter in the universe... cause Einstein said so... |
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Since time is dilated (stretched) also, time slows as the center of the black hole is reached approaching no time movement at all.
Now, that is a flaw in theory if there ever was one. Time isn't something that is tangible. Instead, time is a metric, a measurement. they don't understand that concept... apparently, a perception can affect all matter in the universe... cause Einstein said so... Who is "they"? What "concept"? |
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Speaking loosely, Einstein's Relativity theories did did grant perspective equal viewing rights, and is the difference between gravity and acceleration. Has anybody said otherwise and had any luck with experimental results?
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Edited by
indignus
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Sun 02/16/14 10:09 PM
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They are as confirmed as just about anything we haven't experienced personally can be. Exactly my point |
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Since time is dilated (stretched) also, time slows as the center of the black hole is reached approaching no time movement at all.
Now, that is a flaw in theory if there ever was one. Time isn't something that is tangible. Instead, time is a metric, a measurement. they don't understand that concept... apparently, a perception can affect all matter in the universe... cause Einstein said so... Who is "they"? What "concept"? lol, we've been through this before... you think time can be dilated, i don't.. 
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No one has ever seen or even documented a black hole with sensors, they are just theories. There are three different methods used to identify a black hole. Hawkings has a theory that Einsteins theory is wrong, that's all. Both of their theories are based on what we know so far, but neither can be proven or disproven. Hawking hasn't released a hypothesis yet, he has offered no equations and very little detail. yes he did.. http://mingle2.com/topic/384794 he feels BH's may not be what we think they are |
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Since time is dilated (stretched) also, time slows as the center of the black hole is reached approaching no time movement at all.
Now, that is a flaw in theory if there ever was one. Time isn't something that is tangible. Instead, time is a metric, a measurement. they don't understand that concept... apparently, a perception can affect all matter in the universe... cause Einstein said so... Who is "they"? What "concept"? lol, we've been through this before... you think time can be dilated, i don't..
No. I understand Einstein's Theory of GR. I would say it is a safe bet that you do not. There are an unbelievable number of instruments that accurately rely on GR to work and do. The basis of the measurement is time dilation. You might as well believe that jello doesn't exist. Of course, you have that right. 
1 A muon has a lifetime of 2.2E-8 s in its own rest frame. If it travels with a speed of 0.95c, how far will it travel before it decays? 20.1 m 200 m 1500 m 15 km 2 A meter stick flies by with an apparent length of 60 cm. What is its velocity (in m/s)? 2.4 E 8 200 5 E 7 3000 3 Two space ships approach each other with velocities of 0.9c. According to an observer on the space ship, what is the velocity of the other ship (in m/s)? 2.97 E 8 5 E 8 1 E 5 6.0 E 23 Which of these choices best describes you? I need to go to school and get my degree I would love to play a Game Of Thrones RPG I'd like to earn extra cash by taking surveys online I like to watch funny videos |
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OK. Lets say that one understands Einstein's physics but doesn't "do" the math.
Here is a "conceptual" question. Which of the following statements is not derived from Einstein's special theory of relativity? Two events that are simultaneous in one reference frame may not be simultaneous in another. Time depends on one's state of motion. Time dilation demonstrates that moving clocks measure time as moving more slowly than a clock that is stationary relative to it. Because of gravitational time dilation, clocks run more slowly in deep gravitational wells. |
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OK. Lets say that one understands Einstein's physics but doesn't "do" the math. Here is a "conceptual" question. Which of the following statements is not derived from Einstein's special theory of relativity? Two events that are simultaneous in one reference frame may not be simultaneous in another. Time depends on one's state of motion. Time dilation demonstrates that moving clocks measure time as moving more slowly than a clock that is stationary relative to it. Because of gravitational time dilation, clocks run more slowly in deep gravitational wells. you win, your smarter than me... but that still doesn't change my mind... |
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Oh oh .. pick me pick me please.. . my hand up..
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Edited by
no1phD
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Tue 02/18/14 12:11 PM
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first off do we know what the weight of light is!? ..... you walked up to a cupboard not knowing what's behind the door.. you open it.. whats . on the shelf is there because it was put there.. are because it had to be there.. are because your reality placed it there... so no you can't occupy the same space simultaneously... just a thought. I am a dog after all... not known for big brain...
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first off do we know what the weight of light is!? ..... you walked up to a cupboard not knowing what's behind the door.. you open it.. whats . on the shelf is there because it was put there.. are because it had to be there.. are because your reality placed it there... so no you can't occupy the same space simultaneously... just a thought. I am a dog after all... not known for big brain... Perhaps you sniffed out Schr�dinger's cat! |
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Dead or Alive the cats coming with me...
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OK. Lets say that one understands Einstein's physics but doesn't "do" the math. Here is a "conceptual" question. Which of the following statements is not derived from Einstein's special theory of relativity? Two events that are simultaneous in one reference frame may not be simultaneous in another. Time depends on one's state of motion. Time dilation demonstrates that moving clocks measure time as moving more slowly than a clock that is stationary relative to it. Because of gravitational time dilation, clocks run more slowly in deep gravitational wells. you win, your smarter than me... but that still doesn't change my mind... Smartness is not an issue. Education is. I have seven years of college physics and a lifetime of applied physics work experience. Basic physics is not a matter of opinion. You, me, and everybody else can guess at the physics going on at the center of a black hole because the math doesn't work. If the process was known, then the math would look much different than what we have, but it would work in a different way. But time dilation is just a property that can be calculated like mass, speed, distance, or acceleration. And the calculation of time dilation in a deep gravity well comes from Einstein's General Relativity, not Special Relativity, and states that time would come to a standstill if close enough to the center of a black hole. And since the basic gravity force equations are divided by the distances, as the distances to the black hole singularity approach zero, the equations get a "divide by zero error" and become meaningless. |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Tue 02/18/14 01:40 PM
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maybe that's why some Smartie came up with this!
Black holes are where God divided by zero - |
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like my grand dad used to say.. gravity is a b****
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oh yes I'm still waiting on the weight of light please!!!!
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Edited by
no1phD
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Tue 02/18/14 02:09 PM
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a gravity well strong enough to hold time itself...hmmm.. time warping..hmmm
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maybe that's why some Smartie came up with this!
Black holes are where God divided by zero - No doubt! 
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OK. Lets say that one understands Einstein's physics but doesn't "do" the math. Here is a "conceptual" question. Which of the following statements is not derived from Einstein's special theory of relativity? Two events that are simultaneous in one reference frame may not be simultaneous in another. Time depends on one's state of motion. Time dilation demonstrates that moving clocks measure time as moving more slowly than a clock that is stationary relative to it. Because of gravitational time dilation, clocks run more slowly in deep gravitational wells. you win, your smarter than me... but that still doesn't change my mind... Smartness is not an issue. Education is. I have seven years of college physics and a lifetime of applied physics work experience. Basic physics is not a matter of opinion. You, me, and everybody else can guess at the physics going on at the center of a black hole because the math doesn't work. If the process was known, then the math would look much different than what we have, but it would work in a different way. But time dilation is just a property that can be calculated like mass, speed, distance, or acceleration. And the calculation of time dilation in a deep gravity well comes from Einstein's General Relativity, not Special Relativity, and states that time would come to a standstill if close enough to the center of a black hole. And since the basic gravity force equations are divided by the distances, as the distances to the black hole singularity approach zero, the equations get a "divide by zero error" and become meaningless. maybe i can get on board when we actually see it happening up close. like i said before, time dilation is just a name... maybe something is happening, but right now "time dilation" is the name they gave it... unless molecular decay is the time.. |
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