Topic: teleport energy long distances?
mightymoe's photo
Wed 01/29/14 06:26 PM

Bob Yirka
Phys Org
Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:46 CST



Schematic diagram of (a) vacuum state quantum energy teleportation (QET) protocol and (b) long- distance squeezed-state QET


A trio of researchers at Tohoku University in Japan, led by Masahiro Hotta, has proposed a new way to teleport energy that allows for doing so over long distances. In their paper published in Physical Review A, the team describes a theory they've developed that takes advantage of the properties of squeezed light or vacuum states to allow for "teleporting" information about an energy state, allowing for making use of that energy - in essence, teleporting energy over long distances.

On television shows such as Star Trek, people are moved from one location to another via teleportation, where the people (or objects) are not literally sent - instead their essence is reestablished in another local, giving the illusion of movement. In real life, nothing like that exists, though scientists have begun using the term teleportation to describe the results of entanglement experiments - where two entangled particles are joined somehow despite no apparent connection between them. Changes to one particle happen automatically to the other. Scientists have broadened their experiments to include light and matter, and more recently, energy.

Back in 2008, Hotta, with another team, first devised a theory for teleporting energy based on taking advantages of vacuum states - theory suggests they are not truly empty, instead there are particles in them that pop in and out of existence, some of which are entangled. While interesting, the theory suggested that teleporting energy could only be carried out over very short distances. In this new effort, Hotta et al have found a way to increase the teleportation distance by making use of a property known as squeezed light which is tied to a squeezed vacuum state.

Quantum mechanics laws limit the ways that values in a system (such as a vacuum) can be measured - physicists have found however, that increasing the uncertainty of one value, decrease the uncertainty of the value of others - a sort of squeezing effect. When applied to light, theory suggests, it leads to more pairs traveling together through a vacuum, which in turn leads to more of them being entanglement, and that the team suggests should allow for teleporting energy over virtually any distance.

The researchers suggest their theory could be put to the test in a lab and Hotta hints that he and another partner are in the process of doing just that.

vanaheim's photo
Fri 01/31/14 06:34 PM
Awesome, experimentation in the utilization of quantum entanglement as a tool. I'm thinking telecommunications/datalinking for realtime operations across vast distances. Pop a CD on here and listen to wireless speakers play it realtime on the Moon.

Definite defence industry prospects (guidence systems). You'll see more on this in the future, militaries will show interest and funding.

mightymoe's photo
Fri 01/31/14 07:38 PM

Awesome, experimentation in the utilization of quantum entanglement as a tool. I'm thinking telecommunications/datalinking for realtime operations across vast distances. Pop a CD on here and listen to wireless speakers play it realtime on the Moon.

Definite defence industry prospects (guidence systems). You'll see more on this in the future, militaries will show interest and funding.


yea, i was thinking of a spacial guidance system, or maybe a way to control 50 missiles at 1 time...

vanaheim's photo
Sat 02/01/14 05:41 PM
The Russians have been working on simulating these kind of effects by using AI logarithms in hypersonic antishipping missile guidence, this is the dangerous feature of the Shipwreck missile currently in use with their heavy, modern warships. Basically each has some profile defaults and the datalinking/avionics capacity of a launch craft (shipwreck missiles are the size of a small fighter jet). Fired in volleys, the one shipwreck becomes the control craft and flies top cover taking sensor readings and transmitting course changes to the rest of the volley, which flies fast supersonic at wave height. If the control craft is shot down, another missile in the volley climbs and starts scanning to take its place.
They're virtually impossible to take down with medium/long range air defence emplacements, and overwhelm conventional CIWS. One hit with any warhead will sink any warship up to a Nimitz-class, a typically volley from a Russian task force will be 40 conventional shipwrecks plus 12 nuclear if use is warranted. The Russian Navy has become purpose built to take out NATO naval craft, especially US carrier-battlegroups on the skirts of CIS borders, they started building for this objective following the naval standoff during the Cuban Missile Crisis.


But if you could use a system of quantum entanglement you're already a massive step ahead on any kind of datalinking protocol, which is the current universal standard. Datalinking midcourse updates is the US standard and datalinking operational equipment is the Russian standard, they're the two in the lead on military spending.
Quantum entanglement, no need for a datalink or AI, real time thought-action protocols over any distance, that's going to put somebody ahead in the arms race.

Freihti's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:21 PM
Cool yet deadly. =_=

Freihti's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:22 PM
I wonder what Russia's planning to do. To protect or to conquer? Hope the former.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:32 PM

I wonder what Russia's planning to do. To protect or to conquer? Hope the former.


nothing, the scientists are doing what they do, the weapons makers are doing what they do..

vanaheim's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:32 PM
History shows Russia's beligerence is directly related to whether they've conservative or progressive leadership. Unfortunately Putin power base at the Kremlin are all ultra-conservatives. Old school soviets still sore about failing economics class.
Not a good combination.

They do have a lot of powerful business czars that are progressive however, but most are involved in some sort of criminal enterprise.
Not very different from the US, but they get government/military backing there and in Russia they've turned into regional fiefdoms.

The danger identified in the 90s (when the USSR collapsed) was the potential for rogue generals to create citystates with cold war military materiel to play crazy warlord with.
It's still the current danger.

vanaheim's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:50 PM
The Nicholas Cage movie "Lord of War" was based on a French black market arms dealer based in Italy, who sold Ukrainian cold war surplus to the Iranians, not west coast Africans.

The script was adapted for an American audience, so the nationalities changed, and being set in the Middle East was thought already too heavily represented in news media, Africa selected to keep American politics out of the story.

But what actually happened was the character played by Nic Cage supplied Georgia with an entire military (combat helicopters and tanks, etc.), and gave the Iranians nuclear capable cruise missiles through the 90s. At market bazaars in the desert.

That's scary stuff.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:51 PM

The Nicholas Cage movie "Lord of War" was based on a French black market arms dealer based in Italy, who sold Ukrainian cold war surplus to the Iranians, not west coast Africans.

The script was adapted for an American audience, so the nationalities changed, and being set in the Middle East was thought already too heavily represented in news media, Africa selected to keep American politics out of the story.

But what actually happened was the character played by Nic Cage supplied Georgia with an entire military (combat helicopters and tanks, etc.), and gave the Iranians nuclear capable cruise missiles through the 90s. At market bazaars in the desert.

That's scary stuff.

lol, i was thinking of that movie while reading your last post...laugh

Freihti's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:52 PM
I'll definitely see that movie. >< sounds fun haha

vanaheim's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:56 PM
Without question at the very top of my personal list of terribly entertaining, highly intelligent antiwar movies.
It really just gives wonderful perspective on modern warfare and how we as citizens need to control our governments, not the other way around.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 02/01/14 06:58 PM

Without question at the very top of my personal list of terribly entertaining, highly intelligent antiwar movies.
It really just gives wonderful perspective on modern warfare and how we as citizens need to control our governments, not the other way around.

that and "knowing" are my two favorite from NC