Topic: Conversations: Give and Take
ridewytepony's photo
Sun 12/29/13 06:03 PM


Nah, they are men, one has to get used to only listening :-)

I learned a long time ago, men really have no interest in
what you have to say or offer.

The best you can hope for is someone who pretends to listen
with some degree of involvement.

Now, myself, I can do math problems, worry my taxes, plan
Christmas presents or ponder black holes while pretending
to listen.

Then the sex better be real bluddy good, and more then a mere 8 seconds, for putting up with that BS. Must say I did lots of pretending to listen with my ex. Just say "yes" and "uhuh" at the right moment. He was so full of himself, I don't think he ever even noticed.

Guys have actually rodeo f*ed yourofl you know what that is eh?

shellsrose's photo
Sun 12/29/13 06:26 PM
Usually the messages I receive are "Hi, how are you?" or something simple along those lines. Typically, there are no paragraphs. I reply, then also ask a question or comment on the day, whatever reply seems appropriate, and receive a few words of response. If there is nothing for me to reply back to them with, I just don't reply any longer.

PacificStar48's photo
Sun 12/29/13 07:42 PM
I feel like if someone makes conversation like puling a needle out of stone they have minimal intelligence or respect for a peer; especially a women so I just write it off.

ridewytepony's photo
Sun 12/29/13 10:35 PM
Edited by ridewytepony on Sun 12/29/13 10:40 PM

Usually the messages I receive are "Hi, how are you?" or something simple along those lines. Typically, there are no paragraphs. I reply, then also ask a question or comment on the day, whatever reply seems appropriate, and receive a few words of response. If there is nothing for me to reply back to them with, I just don't reply any longer.

I just usually look for inconsistencies in the profile
at that point and if there is reason I will report the profile
to be investigated. If I see no reason then I still ignore them.
Hi message are usually scammers, as well as not answering your questions.
they usually want to ask for you email.

TawtStrat's photo
Mon 12/30/13 06:13 AM
Actually, I kept a dialogue going on here for a couple of months with a woman that just sent one liners, which were usually in text speak and quite often they were so full of typos that they were incomprehensible. And I still sent her long proper messages myself. When I met her she had more to say for herself but she mumbled and her accent was so broad that I couldn't understand half of what she was saying.

A guy's got to do what a guy's got to do. Just saying...

Lost_in_reverie's photo
Mon 12/30/13 06:45 AM
Edited by Lost_in_reverie on Mon 12/30/13 06:46 AM

If you read my profile, you'll see what I mean! Seriously, there are some real precious "sweeties" out there


:thumbsup:

In terms of the OP, you're not the only one to experience it at all. The majority of dating site members seem to be incapable of forming sentences, never mind conversing. The ones who can can usually be found in the forums.

Many of those who can construct sentences fail to take note of points from the profile (or don't at all). As others have said, when questioned on their opening message, so many show themselves to be fakers or copy-and-pasters.

And then it's a case of working out who you feel is a match for you and who isn't. I don't like messaging people back if I don't think, for whatever reason, we'd be a good fit. I have actually had guys send me horrible messages for the fact I don't reply to their first message. But why waste a person's time?

There have been occasions where I've drifted away from conversations myself. Sometimes it's a case of the conversation drying up (as you say, you don't feel you can continue a conversation with them), other times it's little comments that don't make me feel comfortable continuing. A lot of the time I'll mention what does concern me and if I still don't feel comfortable, or feel I'd be wasting their time, I'll back off.

So yes, it's a long, long road if you really want to meet someone. But I think it can be difficult however you choose to go in search of new companions.

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Mon 12/30/13 07:25 AM
It's only a long long road if you want to make it that way. I've had dates with women that I've chatted with for as little as one day. That's possible if you realise that meeting someone from the forums is highly unlikely due to distance and just try to get dates with local people.

If all women are indeed "precious gifts from God" it doesn't particularly matter which fish you manage to reel in after all. But seriously, for me at least, picky types, or just ones that are so sensitive that they get uncomfortable about things that I say are a dead loss anyway. Friendly ones that actually want to meet guys are where it's at.

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Mon 12/30/13 07:31 AM

Usually the messages I receive are "Hi, how are you?" or something simple along those lines. Typically, there are no paragraphs. I reply, then also ask a question or comment on the day, whatever reply seems appropriate, and receive a few words of response. If there is nothing for me to reply back to them with, I just don't reply any longer.


^ this

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Mon 12/30/13 07:38 AM

Actually, I kept a dialogue going on here for a couple of months with a woman that just sent one liners, which were usually in text speak and quite often they were so full of typos that they were incomprehensible. And I still sent her long proper messages myself. When I met her she had more to say for herself but she mumbled and her accent was so broad that I couldn't understand half of what she was saying.

A guy's got to do what a guy's got to do. Just saying...


I tend to agree Tawt. The only issue I have is that "friendly and wants to meet guys" is not necessarily equivalent to "wants to jump into the sack" with them all. Most of the guys I have met from the net seem to feel that it is about a sex hook up even tho my profiles have distinctly said that was not my interest, and even when I stated that was not going to happen. That's why I have basically given up actually meeting from here (internet). I suppose there could be the occasional one off where I met someone on here who was willing to start as a friend. but it doesn't seem likely....

Lost_in_reverie's photo
Mon 12/30/13 07:40 AM

...picky types, or just ones that are so sensitive that they get uncomfortable about things that I say are a dead loss anyway. Friendly ones that actually want to meet guys are where it's at.


So, you prefer people who don't have standards?

I consider it my prerogative to conduct myself in whatever manner I choose. If I don't feel someone is a match for me, why should I be bullied into maintaining a conversation or meeting up? Being friendly doesn't mean being a push over.

But yes, they're a "dead loss" to you if it isn't working out the way you want it to.

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Mon 12/30/13 07:58 AM
If you women were more cooperative, I would send you passionate love letters instead.

shellsrose's photo
Mon 12/30/13 08:38 AM

If you women were more cooperative, I would send you passionate love letters instead.


Define cooperative, Red6mist.

Lost_in_reverie's photo
Mon 12/30/13 08:46 AM
Edited by Lost_in_reverie on Mon 12/30/13 08:46 AM


Define cooperative, Red6mist.


Having the restrictions about people messaging for "intimate encounters" being turned off is probably what he's referring to :P

TawtStrat's photo
Mon 12/30/13 08:48 AM


...picky types, or just ones that are so sensitive that they get uncomfortable about things that I say are a dead loss anyway. Friendly ones that actually want to meet guys are where it's at.


So, you prefer people who don't have standards?

I consider it my prerogative to conduct myself in whatever manner I choose. If I don't feel someone is a match for me, why should I be bullied into maintaining a conversation or meeting up? Being friendly doesn't mean being a push over.

But yes, they're a "dead loss" to you if it isn't working out the way you want it to.


Was it something that I said?

What do you mean bullying? You said something before about not being comfortable around single guys because you feel pressured by them. That's not about having standards. That's just something about your personality and it follows that if you are like that you just aren't as friendly as some other women are.

Lost_in_reverie's photo
Mon 12/30/13 09:03 AM

Was it something that I said?

What do you mean bullying? You said something before about not being comfortable around single guys because you feel pressured by them. That's not about having standards. That's just something about your personality and it follows that if you are like that you just aren't as friendly as some other women are.


There are times where I've been involved in conversation with people (whether here or on other sites) where men have attempted to back me into a corner with regards to meeting up quite early on via manipulative tactics. I believe meeting up should be done when I person feels comfortable with it, not because the other decides it's now or never. If I'm shoved into that situation - I pick "never".

Obviously being around single guys makes sense if you want to meet a partner, but they tend to act differently when they're unattached. Which is incredibly frustrating as it's almost this desperate clamouring to get a person's attention rather than just taking the time to get to know each other.

I'm not going to go offering myself to every man I meet. If not sh*gging about makes me unfriendly, then so be it. I'll have to remember to add that to my profile next time I edit, eh? "Is 'unfriendly' (aka: will not have sex with you just because you want it)".

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Mon 12/30/13 09:08 AM
Hahhaha! Nice sarcasm, Lost In Revery.

I don't like chatting about the weather and stuff. That's not why I'm here. And asking strangers personal questions is a little rude in my opinion. There are so many fraudsters about. People will go to great lengths to steal people's identity. I've heard all sorts of thing like rummaging through bins etc. So you need to be careful. It's difficult to ignite the passions under these circumstances.

TawtStrat's photo
Mon 12/30/13 09:09 AM


Actually, I kept a dialogue going on here for a couple of months with a woman that just sent one liners, which were usually in text speak and quite often they were so full of typos that they were incomprehensible. And I still sent her long proper messages myself. When I met her she had more to say for herself but she mumbled and her accent was so broad that I couldn't understand half of what she was saying.

A guy's got to do what a guy's got to do. Just saying...


I tend to agree Tawt. The only issue I have is that "friendly and wants to meet guys" is not necessarily equivalent to "wants to jump into the sack" with them all. Most of the guys I have met from the net seem to feel that it is about a sex hook up even tho my profiles have distinctly said that was not my interest, and even when I stated that was not going to happen. That's why I have basically given up actually meeting from here (internet). I suppose there could be the occasional one off where I met someone on here who was willing to start as a friend. but it doesn't seem likely....


You would be surprised. I'm happy enough to meet up with women and start off as friends. Doesn't particularly matter to me whether there's sex on the first date or if it takes several. I just like to feel that it's leading somewhere because that's my idea of romantic.

Are you sure that you aren't just confusing flirting with expectations? I don't expect anything unless the woman says to me that she wants it to be what you're calling a "sex hook up" and even then they can back out at any time. But then, if she says that she wants to stay with me for the weekend or something like that I know that it's just a matter of just not acting like an arse when I meet her and that's not too difficult really.

shellsrose's photo
Mon 12/30/13 09:17 AM
Lost_in_reverie, I have to agree with you on this one. I also feel backed into a corner when attempting to get to know someone a little better and right away they want you to call them or meet up. Meeting people on these sites is much different than if you meet someone in person, because you don't have the luxury of being able to use your senses when communicating. It is better to play it safe and try to gauge a person's intentions before meeting or giving out your number. At least that's the way I feel about it. If I am pressed to meet, I usually cut off communication. If someone is truly interested in getting to know more about you, they will take the time and wait until both parties are comfortable with a meeting.

Lost_in_reverie's photo
Mon 12/30/13 09:20 AM

You would be surprised. I'm happy enough to meet up with women and start off as friends. Doesn't particularly matter to me whether there's sex on the first date or if it takes several. I just like to feel that it's leading somewhere because that's my idea of romantic.

Are you sure that you aren't just confusing flirting with expectations? I don't expect anything unless the woman says to me that she wants it to be what you're calling a "sex hook up" and even then they can back out at any time. But then, if she says that she wants to stay with me for the weekend or something like that I know that it's just a matter of just not acting like an arse when I meet her and that's not too difficult really.


That's you, Tawt. You may talk openly about what you do and don't want. You may feel that people are able to talk to you in that way also, but there are many men (and some women I'm sure, though I don't swing that way) who don't conduct themselves that way and don't listen when people attempt to clarify a situation or intentions.

And yes, I know the difference between flirting and expectations but thank you for your concern.

Lost_in_reverie's photo
Mon 12/30/13 09:22 AM

People will go to great lengths to steal people's identity. I've heard all sorts of thing like rummaging through bins etc. So you need to be careful. It's difficult to ignite the passions under these circumstances.


I'm sure there are plenty of treasures to be found in the depths of a Mingler's message bin...

I don't doubt you have a rough time though. You poor sausage, you. flowerforyou