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Topic: chit chat
yellowrose10's photo
Sat 12/28/13 10:06 AM
This is chit chat and turned into a political debate???

noway

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 12/28/13 10:12 AM
Edited by Dodo_David on Sat 12/28/13 10:13 AM

This is chit chat and turned into a political debate???

noway


On this site? No way! indifferent

Anyway, I'd take President Gump over Ugly Prince Charlie any day. laugh


lionsbrew's photo
Sat 12/28/13 10:33 AM
This is how I've seen politicians since I was little regardless of party or nationality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B1IQYD4Uew

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 12/28/13 11:09 AM
Sooooo how was everyone's holiday?

Plans for new years?

TawtStrat's photo
Sat 12/28/13 11:33 AM
Well, I'm no monarchist but I don't really mind the queen and she stays out of politics. As well as being head of state she's also the head of the church and although there are bishops in the House of Lords, there isn't a religious right faction trying to force their values on the rest of us the way that there is in certain other countries. Nobody here campaigning to have creationism taught in science classes. Nobody campaigning on issues like abortion. To me it seems rather ironic that people originally went to America to get away from religious intolerance and you're still arguing about stuff that was settled here hundreds of years ago.

The only time that the queen makes political speaches they were just written for her and for most people these days the royal family are just there for entertainment value and for tourists to gawp at. She doesn't declare war on other countries and her main function is just to go through the formality of granting whoever wins the election the right to form a government. She does still have the right to dissolve parliament but the last time a British monarch tried that there was a civil war.

"Prime minister", on the other hand isn't actually an official position and it's just the leader of whatever party happens to be in power. I was talking to some Americans about this on another site and some guy was complaining that American presidents are like supreme beings and aren't held acountable for their actions. Well, a British prime minister has to answer questions in parliament on a regular basis and if he loses the confidence of his own party he's finished, like Thatcher and Blair were.

TL;DR The queen simply can't be politically partisan because "her government" is elected and can be either right or left wing, or even a coalition. Your argument is really just an anachronistic straw man I think. We don't have an empire anymore but the queen is still queen of other countries and she doesn't meddle in their politics either.

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