Topic: TOLERANCE.. is it just a PC word now?
teebee79's photo
Tue 12/10/13 05:18 AM
Look, We all have a right to our own feelings.... Wrong, Right or indifferent. They are OUR feelings.

I've said this one million times... I don't care what YOU do, If its not for me, let it go.

I was EXTREMELY p'ssed when someone told me " I was wrong for something I felt"

Tolerance goes both ways... If someone is a STRICT christian, good for them, but cramming it down my throat is INtolerant.

I love my Gay brothers and sisters, when you are with your significant other, a hug and a kiss to show your love is fine but pawing each other in public is INtolerant of everyone.

Let's be clear... over the top PDA, is just too much whoever is doing it, Gay, Straight or BI.

I think in our efforts to be Tolerant of certain groups and behaviours , we've become INtolerant of others!

If someone writes " People have the right to be intolerant" We are going to fight :angry:

sybariticguy's photo
Tue 12/10/13 05:52 AM
the response of unacceptable behavior on the part of demonstrative gays is termed intolerant but it is actually just the woman not able to tolerate visual displays of affection she feels uncomfortable with. She needs to work through her feelings of disapproval and acknowledge her own intolerance to the behaviors which in no way cause her any harm just her own feelings of uncomfortablenss ...

Lost_in_reverie's photo
Tue 12/10/13 06:04 AM
Edited by Lost_in_reverie on Tue 12/10/13 06:06 AM
If you mean "over the top" being the kind that makes you think they really need a room, then yes I totally understand what you mean. It isn't particularly appropriate and I expect the only reason they haven't been arrested is because clothes still remain on. Just.

If you just mean kisses, hugs, sitting in laps... then I have no issue with that at all, whatever their sexuality. It can make you feel uncomfortable in the sense that it's a visual reminder of what you don't have, but it doesn't make me feel uncomfortable in terms of what they're doing. Sometimes it's nice to just see people happy and enjoying life.

Though a colleague of mine works in a theatre and she was talking about a couple who were supposedly watching a show but spent the whole time locking-lips. That just doesn't sound right, to me. People aren't there to see them, they're there to watch a show so it would be inappropriate (in my opinion).

teebee79's photo
Tue 12/10/13 06:10 AM

If you mean "over the top" being the kind that makes you think they really need a room, then yes I totally understand what you mean. It isn't particularly appropriate and I expect the only reason they haven't been arrested is because clothes still remain on. Just.

If you just mean kisses, hugs, sitting in laps... then I have no issue with that at all, whatever their sexuality. It can make you feel uncomfortable in the sense that it's a visual reminder of what you don't have, but it doesn't make me feel uncomfortable in terms of what they're doing. Sometimes it's nice to just see people happy and enjoying life.

Though a colleague of mine works in a theatre and she was talking about a couple who were supposedly watching a show but spent the whole time locking-lips. That just doesn't sound right, to me. People aren't there to see them, they're there to watch a show so it would be inappropriate (in my opinion).

I like watching people express affection for one another... it's sweet! Gay or Straight, it doesn't matter to me.

I"m talking about... you see HIs/ Her hand disappear under a dinner table... and facial expressions showing someone is enjoying more than just a massage to the knee! LOL

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/10/13 06:16 AM
that's the issue with tolerance,,,,,

in the ideal, its great

in reality, its not so simple because we culturally decide which feelings people should tolerate and which they shouldn't

like , for instance, the mainstream feeling that we should be 'comfortable' with homosexual behavior,,,,and therefore discomfort is intolerance

or, the mainstream feeling that we have to be so 'tolerant' of religious diversity that we should not express our own to others for fear of offending with a 'merry christmas'

tolerance, its a complex thing in a society of millions,

teebee79's photo
Tue 12/10/13 06:16 AM
Oh.. and this post is about Intolerance in all it's forms..
Someone wearing a cross, and other's rolling their eyes about it??

I've seen this done before?


I agree... some are WAAAY over the top... every other word is Jesus Says or God wants... OK! We get it! you are a christian!
But sometimes, I think we,.. myself, included maybe a little intolerant of them SOMETIMES!




no photo
Tue 12/10/13 06:32 AM

that's the issue with tolerance,,,,,

in the ideal, its great

in reality, its not so simple because we culturally decide which feelings people should tolerate and which they shouldn't

like , for instance, the mainstream feeling that we should be 'comfortable' with homosexual behavior,,,,and therefore discomfort is intolerance

or, the mainstream feeling that we have to be so 'tolerant' of religious diversity that we should not express our own to others for fear of offending with a 'merry christmas'

tolerance, its a complex thing in a society of millions,


It goes the other way, too. Gay people shouldn't be afraid to hold hands because someone might not like it. And someone should be able to say happy holidays without worrying about pissing someone off.

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/10/13 07:00 AM


that's the issue with tolerance,,,,,

in the ideal, its great

in reality, its not so simple because we culturally decide which feelings people should tolerate and which they shouldn't

like , for instance, the mainstream feeling that we should be 'comfortable' with homosexual behavior,,,,and therefore discomfort is intolerance

or, the mainstream feeling that we have to be so 'tolerant' of religious diversity that we should not express our own to others for fear of offending with a 'merry christmas'

tolerance, its a complex thing in a society of millions,


It goes the other way, too. Gay people shouldn't be afraid to hold hands because someone might not like it. And someone should be able to say happy holidays without worrying about pissing someone off.



no one should be 'afraid' of others,,, there is a difference between feelings and action

if I Want to kiss my man, I really don't care that someone else finds it offensive,, they wouldn't have been here themselves but for a man doing that and more with a woman,,lol,, so I find it a silly thing to be offended by

virtually making out with my man on the other hand,, is also natural but like going to the bathroom, something that is reasonably expected to remain private,, so I wouldn't do it

and if two men or women want to kiss, they shouldn't be 'afraid' in terms of fear for their bodies,, but they also need to have a thicker skin and realize that others may dislike it enough to roll their eyes, or react in some other 'non threatening' way out of discomfort,,,

and I have really never been offended by well wishes, whether its Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, or Laikum a Salaam

probably why I don't understand why so many places don't allow anything but 'Happy Holidays',,,,,

no photo
Tue 12/10/13 07:18 AM



that's the issue with tolerance,,,,,

in the ideal, its great

in reality, its not so simple because we culturally decide which feelings people should tolerate and which they shouldn't

like , for instance, the mainstream feeling that we should be 'comfortable' with homosexual behavior,,,,and therefore discomfort is intolerance

or, the mainstream feeling that we have to be so 'tolerant' of religious diversity that we should not express our own to others for fear of offending with a 'merry christmas'

tolerance, its a complex thing in a society of millions,


It goes the other way, too. Gay people shouldn't be afraid to hold hands because someone might not like it. And someone should be able to say happy holidays without worrying about pissing someone off.



no one should be 'afraid' of others,,, there is a difference between feelings and action

if I Want to kiss my man, I really don't care that someone else finds it offensive,, they wouldn't have been here themselves but for a man doing that and more with a woman,,lol,, so I find it a silly thing to be offended by

virtually making out with my man on the other hand,, is also natural but like going to the bathroom, something that is reasonably expected to remain private,, so I wouldn't do it

and if two men or women want to kiss, they shouldn't be 'afraid' in terms of fear for their bodies,, but they also need to have a thicker skin and realize that others may dislike it enough to roll their eyes, or react in some other 'non threatening' way out of discomfort,,,

and I have really never been offended by well wishes, whether its Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, or Laikum a Salaam

probably why I don't understand why so many places don't allow anything but 'Happy Holidays',,,,,


If you're going to say gay people should have a thicker skin and realize that people will dislike seeing them, then I'm sure you also feel the same about the other side. They should realize gay people will be around and learn to deal with it, right?

I always hear about places that only allow happy holidays, but have never had to deal with that. I do t know of any aces around here like that. I can understand if they do customer service and don't want to potentially offend customers.

msharmony's photo
Tue 12/10/13 07:24 AM




that's the issue with tolerance,,,,,

in the ideal, its great

in reality, its not so simple because we culturally decide which feelings people should tolerate and which they shouldn't

like , for instance, the mainstream feeling that we should be 'comfortable' with homosexual behavior,,,,and therefore discomfort is intolerance

or, the mainstream feeling that we have to be so 'tolerant' of religious diversity that we should not express our own to others for fear of offending with a 'merry christmas'

tolerance, its a complex thing in a society of millions,


It goes the other way, too. Gay people shouldn't be afraid to hold hands because someone might not like it. And someone should be able to say happy holidays without worrying about pissing someone off.



no one should be 'afraid' of others,,, there is a difference between feelings and action

if I Want to kiss my man, I really don't care that someone else finds it offensive,, they wouldn't have been here themselves but for a man doing that and more with a woman,,lol,, so I find it a silly thing to be offended by

virtually making out with my man on the other hand,, is also natural but like going to the bathroom, something that is reasonably expected to remain private,, so I wouldn't do it

and if two men or women want to kiss, they shouldn't be 'afraid' in terms of fear for their bodies,, but they also need to have a thicker skin and realize that others may dislike it enough to roll their eyes, or react in some other 'non threatening' way out of discomfort,,,

and I have really never been offended by well wishes, whether its Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, or Laikum a Salaam

probably why I don't understand why so many places don't allow anything but 'Happy Holidays',,,,,


If you're going to say gay people should have a thicker skin and realize that people will dislike seeing them, then I'm sure you also feel the same about the other side. They should realize gay people will be around and learn to deal with it, right?

I always hear about places that only allow happy holidays, but have never had to deal with that. I do t know of any aces around here like that. I can understand if they do customer service and don't want to potentially offend customers.


not at all,,,people don't have to learn to like anything,, and they can 'deal' with it how they choose so long as they don't put their hands on another person,,,

I know people aren't gonna like it when they see me out on an interracial date,, and I don't care, its their prerogative not to like it and I have the thick enough skin to accept that truth and keep doing what I do,,,,,and I have no expectation that they learn to like it,,,,at all


no photo
Tue 12/10/13 07:30 AM
I didn't say they had to like it. However, if you feel gay people need to grow a thicker skin and deal with reactions from people who don't like them, then I would think you'd think the same for the other side of it.

That being said, tolerance only goes so far. Expecting people to be tolerant of your intolerance doesn't really work.