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Topic: Big Bang Debunked?
Shovs's photo
Thu 07/31/14 07:59 AM

It is interesting that there is an argument between religion and science, you do know that the Big Bang Theory was first devised and developed by a Catholic priest


LMAO, your knowledge of history is impressive

This could rage on and on, it boils down to personal convictions, ego and mind, what we put our 'faith' in etc

Shovs's photo
Thu 07/31/14 08:00 AM

.. yes something out of nothing.. that's a lot of matter.. to come out of nowhere.. matter anti matter. doesn't matter.lol..


lol love where you are going with this one, or are you coming or are we all just floating in someone's else's dream...(Not my conviction, Plato was a plonker) :wink:

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Thu 07/31/14 02:55 PM


.. yes something out of nothing.. that's a lot of matter.. to come out of nowhere.. matter anti matter. doesn't matter.lol..


lol love where you are going with this one, or are you coming or are we all just floating in someone's else's dream...(Not my conviction, Plato was a plonker) :wink:


Our bodies are given life from the midst of nothingness. Existing where there is nothing is the meaning of the phrase, "form is emptiness." That all things are provided for by nothingness is the meaning of the phrase, "Emptiness is form." One should not think that these are two separate things.
- the Hagakure

metalwing's photo
Thu 07/31/14 03:28 PM
I've brought it up before, might as well bring it up again.

Imagine two undulating branes in hyperspace and they happen to bump into each other.

Bang! A bubble appears! In it (relative to it) time and space begins. Mass condenses out of the energy. Expansion occurs a many times the speed of light.

Nothing is relative.

"One cannot behold the face of the gorgon and live!"

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Sat 08/02/14 02:28 PM


Question: Has anybody ever seen Stalin's chimpanzee experiments? From 1928? If so, any thoughts?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilya_Ivanovich_Ivanov_(biologist)

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19926701.000-the-forgotten-scandal-of-the-soviet-apeman.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee

Might be possible through Genetic Manipulation,but unethical IMO!

Island of Doctor Moreau.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island_of_Doctor_Moreau


Of course it is unethical in the way it was performed, yes. But ethical limitations change with consent, say if it were consentually performed on two humans. The implications in terms of returning function to a body that no longer had any, and by using something that was already essentially dead . . .

I'm just wondering if anybody else read about it as I did and whether or not it could get some of us off the hate train this thread seems to be more about, as opposed to calm intellectual discussions. Thank you for actually responding all the same. It was interesting to look through your source material. I hadn't had a chance to read more in depth on the topic other than an article that spoke only of the ethical violations, not much on the research, until I caught the video footage in a documentary on the scientist who worked on it, that is.

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Sun 06/05/16 12:08 AM
Edited by ambitiouswomanofGod on Sun 06/05/16 12:10 AM
So of it is no longer a theory why is it called big bang theory with theory still in the name??? indifferent think

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 06/05/16 12:10 AM

So of it is no longer a theory whyvis it called big bang theory with theory still in the name

you might want to look up the Difference between a Hypothesis and a Scientific Theory!

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Sun 06/05/16 08:44 AM
Those who wish to will continue to consider the scientific word 'theory' as being a synonym for 'guess'. Once they have been corrected, their repetition of the mantra "it's only a theory" is nothing short of lying. Anyone who says it and is older than about twelve is asking to be ignored.

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Sun 06/05/16 10:43 AM
Edited by ambitiouswomanofGod on Sun 06/05/16 10:45 AM
Hypotjosis is a poorly proven theory where as a scientific theory is a posible but not confimed hypothosis problem with this scietific thoery is it has existed this long and yet there has been plenty of time to prove it yet no one has

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Mon 06/06/16 12:44 AM
Edited by PeterRobertson on Mon 06/06/16 12:45 AM

Hypotjosis is a poorly proven theory where as a scientific theory is a posible but not confimed hypothosis problem with this scietific thoery is it has existed this long and yet there has been plenty of time to prove it yet no one has

I would suggest that you try to understand the careful explanations that several people have made here rather than sticking to your own inventions for the meanings of words.

You cannot prove scientific theories, but the crucial thing about them is that they can be disproved. All you need is one fact that does not fit to show that a theory is either wrong, incomplete, or an approximation. To become theories, hypotheses have to be supported by all the available evidence and survive strenuous attempts at being disproved, attempts which are encouraged and never end.

This makes scientific theories the exact opposite of religious dogma where contradictory evidence is dismissed or ignored.

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Mon 06/06/16 12:16 PM

Hypotjosis is a poorly proven theory where as a scientific theory is a posible but not confimed hypothosis problem with this scietific thoery is it has existed this long and yet there has been plenty of time to prove it yet no one has


You believe what you believe, and you are not interested in growing as a person and learning how you are wrong.

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Mon 06/06/16 12:53 PM
you Fellows might want to peruse the Lady's Profile!

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Thu 06/09/16 12:58 PM


This could rage on and on, it boils down to personal convictions, ego and mind, what we put our 'faith' in etc



Belief in a religious creation myth requires personal conviction, ego, and faith.

If you set aside personal convictions, ego, and faith and ask yourself: What do we really know? and how do we know it?

Eventually you find that the theories debated by scientists are the very best ideas that humanity has come up with, so far.

Personal convictions, ego, and faith are not found equally on both sides of the debate.

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Sun 06/12/16 11:02 PM
Edited by nailcap on Sun 06/12/16 11:05 PM
I've never confess to the Big Bang of howkin but the quantoms will spreading or shooting from the Gravity crushing like the black hole will causes some light ultra material fleets then finally the weights atoms remains and the core that quality equal to the dwarf star also become one of them. Then the materials that were fleets will recrewing by other outer space source like planets or stars even the comets and meteorites......drinker

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Mon 06/13/16 01:36 PM



This could rage on and on, it boils down to personal convictions, ego and mind, what we put our 'faith' in etc



Belief in a religious creation myth requires personal conviction, ego, and faith.

If you set aside personal convictions, ego, and faith and ask yourself: What do we really know? and how do we know it?

Eventually you find that the theories debated by scientists are the very best ideas that humanity has come up with, so far.

Personal convictions, ego, and faith are not found equally on both sides of the debate.


not always... the big bang theory is outdated and just plain ignorant, IMO... and spacetime as well, just what i call a "fill theory", meaning they needed the math to work, so they invented it to make the math work in their favor...

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Mon 06/13/16 02:14 PM
off the top of head I just can't recall if its called a burp...or bubble...dunno...its an event where matter escapes from the boundaries of a universe into "emptiness" essentially creating another universe comprising of a small amount of matter from the previous...it was interesting nonetheless... lots of theories lots of beliefs...but I did read someone referred to the book of genesis as "historical" LOL...which 5 that were written before the christian version are u referring to? or perhaps the Sumerian enuma elish? one thing I've learned is that faith blinds the facts and sorry but Christianity is merely a conglomeration of stolen pagan ideologies study up on history...how it was as all created we will never know end of argument...u dunno I dunno period. thinking u or anyone else has the answers just proves ur a fool. yet the argument will continue until we're all dead...oh the joys of being human

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Tue 06/14/16 03:41 PM




This could rage on and on, it boils down to personal convictions, ego and mind, what we put our 'faith' in etc



Belief in a religious creation myth requires personal conviction, ego, and faith.

If you set aside personal convictions, ego, and faith and ask yourself: What do we really know? and how do we know it?

Eventually you find that the theories debated by scientists are the very best ideas that humanity has come up with, so far.

Personal convictions, ego, and faith are not found equally on both sides of the debate.


not always... the big bang theory is outdated and just plain ignorant, IMO... and spacetime as well, just what i call a "fill theory", meaning they needed the math to work, so they invented it to make the math work in their favor...


One of the claims I'm making is that the collection of theories that are debated by scientists almost always turn out to be the 'the best' as a group - compared to the collection of theories that are ignored by scientists. It doesn't make those theories perfect, nor are they always right. And one theory in that collection (ie, big bang) may be far more popular than another, and that alone doesn't make the popular idea more correct.

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