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Topic: My Take on Mandela . . . ( tommy boy )
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Fri 12/06/13 03:29 AM
Here's My Take on Things . . . ( and I really mean this, )

So, Mandela's dead, eh? Who the feck r-e-a-l-l-y cares???? Not I, noting this, for the medias, is just one more opportunity to make commercial dollars, or pounds if ye will. Yep, just another 'splash' of total bullshite we're being fed. We? Meaning those of us who watch world news on TV daily. Nightly. Those of us interested in viewing 'real' news on the local and world levels. Now, for a brief period, everything must stop as we're asked to drop down to our emotional knees and bow to a man who no doubt was probably just another negro gangster back there in south Africa, in his time. And so, now, on the TV we're stuck watching this crap. What I want to know is, what about all the other struggling, hard working lower class people who die every day out here in this turmoil racked world? What about them? Where's the televised supposed sadness for them? Or in fact, when me mam died some years back. No commercial dollars to be made on her death, no!!! The media, what a bunch of feckin' wankers!!! It's funny, there's really no real deeper emotional feelings when someone else ye don't know dies. It's a farce! A joke. We just pretend to care. So, I'll not be getting down on These knees any time soon. By the way, are ye watching these media mouthpieces on the TV right now attempting to act sad? These teleprompter reading " Look at me, I'm cool" fakes? They make me laugh with that uncomfortable anger down in my stomach. I want to knock every one of them out! I want to drop them where they stand. What a society of eejits! What a bunch of phonies.

In short, I have to laugh. I laugh to stave off anger! Anger at the news medias and the pure farce they produce daily. Mandela, ol' chum, you're dead now and I am NOT missin' ye, pal! You never meant anything to either me, my family, or anyone else I know. By the way, you're presence in this world, to me, was a good enough reason why we should all focus our full concentration on curbing migration across the world. If ye don't fit in another country, stay the feck home! If ye can't make it in your neighborhoods, move the feck out. Just don't come here!

tommy boy moran / Ireland.

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Fri 12/06/13 11:54 AM
drinker flowers

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Fri 12/06/13 02:00 PM
Edited by KiK2me on Fri 12/06/13 02:58 PM
What I want to know is, what about all the other struggling, hard working lower class people who die every day out here in this turmoil racked world?


Hey Tommy
My real Knowledge of Nelson Mandela is very limited
And to the best of my knowledge he was a man who aside from all else did do much for his country and people

Compassion is a given...
And can not or should not ever be "expected" from anyone
Just because WE may feel or not feel this for someone...
The man is dead may he RIP and be remembered more for the GOOD
He has done in his lifetime...

I think as far as your question above goes brother
That "the rest" of us lowly folks in life
Are carried in the love and fondness of our memories
Those we touch around us feel it too at times

You and i as well as the few who are truly inspired and gifted
To write and communicate these sentiments of love and fond memories
Carry forth those special to us in our ability to write and express those memories as well as sentiments
Therefore immortalizing all those who breath life
Through the gift of our pen....
Even if only expressed in an Epitaph...

"Remember me
As you pass by
As you are now
So once was I
As I am now
someday you'll be
Prepare for death
And follow me..."
{UNKNOWN}

They live within our hearts
And our minds
What better ,safer or more sacred
Could be the place to entrust
Such treasures...

I hope you will forgive my lengthy intrusion
But as one heart and one hand to another
This is how i see life myself
Great expression in your write
And much intensity in emotion...
Be Blessed Tommy !
And thank you for sharing your gift...
drinks



Here's My Take on Things . . . ( and I really mean this, )

So, Mandela's dead, eh? Who the feck r-e-a-l-l-y cares???? Not I, noting this, for the medias, is just one more opportunity to make commercial dollars, or pounds if ye will. Yep, just another 'splash' of total bullshite we're being fed. We? Meaning those of us who watch world news on TV daily. Nightly. Those of us interested in viewing 'real' news on the local and world levels. Now, for a brief period, everything must stop as we're asked to drop down to our emotional knees and bow to a man who no doubt was probably just another negro gangster back there in south Africa, in his time. And so, now, on the TV we're stuck watching this crap. What I want to know is, what about all the other struggling, hard working lower class people who die every day out here in this turmoil racked world? What about them? Where's the televised supposed sadness for them? Or in fact, when me mam died some years back. No commercial dollars to be made on her death, no!!! The media, what a bunch of feckin' wankers!!! It's funny, there's really no real deeper emotional feelings when someone else ye don't know dies. It's a farce! A joke. We just pretend to care. So, I'll not be getting down on These knees any time soon. By the way, are ye watching these media mouthpieces on the TV right now attempting to act sad? These teleprompter reading " Look at me, I'm cool" fakes? They make me laugh with that uncomfortable anger down in my stomach. I want to knock every one of them out! I want to drop them where they stand. What a society of eejits! What a bunch of phonies.

In short, I have to laugh. I laugh to stave off anger! Anger at the news medias and the pure farce they produce daily. Mandela, ol' chum, you're dead now and I am NOT missin' ye, pal! You never meant anything to either me, my family, or anyone else I know. By the way, you're presence in this world, to me, was a good enough reason why we should all focus our full concentration on curbing migration across the world. If ye don't fit in another country, stay the feck home! If ye can't make it in your neighborhoods, move the feck out. Just don't come here!

tommy boy moran / Ireland.

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HAPPY HOLIDAYS FRIENDS AND MINGLERS !
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"FOOT PRINTS"

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Fri 12/06/13 04:26 PM
Kick . . .

Thanks for your interesting and respectful comments concerning the ol' black fella. I happen to believe in everything you wrote in your reply here. Well spoken, deep and meaningful words meant to spurn on in us all, the truer, deeper sense of who we are and what we believe and feel toward others. You do make sense, Kick. Well done!

Still, I remain bothered by this modernistic approach to media communication which, at it's base, is designed to form all of us into 'puppet viewers'. I'll not be one, no! And as for the ol' black fella, I did mean everything I said. Didn't know him. Never cared to. Aside from all else he was just another media contrived product bent on making advertising dollars for big media corporations. Just another news article to them. Capitalism at it's finest. Wall Sreet!

By the necessary by, the poem you included here is a very, very old one, Kick. I found same on a tombstone up in northern California some years back. The title was simply, " Sarah ". And it went exactly like this . . .

Sarah

Stop my friends
As you pass by

As you are now
So once was I

As I am now
So you must be

Prepare for death
And follow me.

* This cemetery stone was placed, along with Sarah, in the ground somewhere back in the early to mid 1700's. I walked up to it stopped and looked down and read it. I thought for a moment, " My god, this person is trying to draw in everyone walking by. " I felt these words deeply and have never, ever forgot them. I understand this very sentiment, exacting, is found on other grave stones at various locations around the world. So, it's being used. Thank you for sharing, Kick.

Be well. Thanks again.

tommy boy moran / Ireland

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Fri 12/06/13 04:30 PM
2KidsMom . . .

Bless you and thanks for your warmth. Always appreciate it, and, You.

tomo / Ireland. :heart:

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Fri 12/06/13 05:53 PM

2KidsMom . . .

Bless you and thanks for your warmth. Always appreciate it, and, You.

tomo / Ireland. :heart:



flowers :heart: flowers

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 12/06/13 07:18 PM
Honestly?

This is probably the most disrespectful, unintelligent thing I've read in my entire life. My advice? Learn a bit about the man before you start hating on what he did, and trust me here, he did an awful f*ing lot.

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Fri 12/06/13 11:34 PM

What I want to know is, what about all the other struggling, hard working lower class people who die every day out here in this turmoil racked world?


Hey Tommy
My real Knowledge of Nelson Mandela is very limited
And to the best of my knowledge he was a man who aside from all else did do much for his country and people

Compassion is a given...
And can not or should not ever be "expected" from anyone
Just because WE may feel or not feel this for someone...
The man is dead may he RIP and be remembered more for the GOOD
He has done in his lifetime...

I think as far as your question above goes brother
That "the rest" of us lowly folks in life
Are carried in the love and fondness of our memories
Those we touch around us feel it too at times

You and i as well as the few who are truly inspired and gifted
To write and communicate these sentiments of love and fond memories
Carry forth those special to us in our ability to write and express those memories as well as sentiments
Therefore immortalizing all those who breath life
Through the gift of our pen....
Even if only expressed in an Epitaph...

"Remember me
As you pass by
As you are now
So once was I
As I am now
someday you'll be
Prepare for death
And follow me..."
{UNKNOWN}

They live within our hearts
And our minds
What better ,safer or more sacred
Could be the place to entrust
Such treasures...

I hope you will forgive my lengthy intrusion
But as one heart and one hand to another
This is how i see life myself
Great expression in your write
And much intensity in emotion...
Be Blessed Tommy !
And thank you for sharing your gift...
drinks



Here's My Take on Things . . . ( and I really mean this, )

So, Mandela's dead, eh? Who the feck r-e-a-l-l-y cares???? Not I, noting this, for the medias, is just one more opportunity to make commercial dollars, or pounds if ye will. Yep, just another 'splash' of total bullshite we're being fed. We? Meaning those of us who watch world news on TV daily. Nightly. Those of us interested in viewing 'real' news on the local and world levels. Now, for a brief period, everything must stop as we're asked to drop down to our emotional knees and bow to a man who no doubt was probably just another negro gangster back there in south Africa, in his time. And so, now, on the TV we're stuck watching this crap. What I want to know is, what about all the other struggling, hard working lower class people who die every day out here in this turmoil racked world? What about them? Where's the televised supposed sadness for them? Or in fact, when me mam died some years back. No commercial dollars to be made on her death, no!!! The media, what a bunch of feckin' wankers!!! It's funny, there's really no real deeper emotional feelings when someone else ye don't know dies. It's a farce! A joke. We just pretend to care. So, I'll not be getting down on These knees any time soon. By the way, are ye watching these media mouthpieces on the TV right now attempting to act sad? These teleprompter reading " Look at me, I'm cool" fakes? They make me laugh with that uncomfortable anger down in my stomach. I want to knock every one of them out! I want to drop them where they stand. What a society of eejits! What a bunch of phonies.

In short, I have to laugh. I laugh to stave off anger! Anger at the news medias and the pure farce they produce daily. Mandela, ol' chum, you're dead now and I am NOT missin' ye, pal! You never meant anything to either me, my family, or anyone else I know. By the way, you're presence in this world, to me, was a good enough reason why we should all focus our full concentration on curbing migration across the world. If ye don't fit in another country, stay the feck home! If ye can't make it in your neighborhoods, move the feck out. Just don't come here!

tommy boy moran / Ireland.

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HAPPY HOLIDAYS FRIENDS AND MINGLERS !
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"FOOT PRINTS"



Well said.flowers drinker as well

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Fri 12/06/13 11:57 PM
You're a great guy Tommy
Hope tomorrow will bring you new reasons to smile pard


TY Sherrie !
flowerforyou

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Sat 12/07/13 01:33 AM
Way to keep it classy, Tommy....

And that was sarcasm, in case you couldn't understand me under the white sheet you're wearing....

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Sat 12/07/13 04:47 AM
Edited by Amoscarine on Sat 12/07/13 04:49 AM

Way to keep it classy, Tommy....

And that was sarcasm, in case you couldn't understand me under the white sheet you're wearing....


A partially surpressed chuckle.
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From the sheer amount of people that are reached emotionally with a passing of a significant public figure, there is a greater effect than ordinarily because of the wider imprint than with normal people. Whether fake caring or not, such passing aways have a real consequence for a wide range of people on the social level.

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Sat 12/07/13 05:17 AM
Edited by 2KidsMom on Sat 12/07/13 05:36 AM
Wow....Tommy ...you know once in awhile I rush
Through and post a reply..because I think..I normally like
Their stuff....last night...I read kik...and enjoyed it...I never fully
Read you...till this morning..I tend to hit reply when I'm home and
Busy..and I was with my lil man..I tend to follow my chicas
Around to make sure no one is messing with them..
After I saw her comment..I fully read you..,(I hate reading long stuff)and if I do
I tend to say I read it....anyway all shiiiit aside..
You know I dislike a lot of mofos.I do not hate~on them
Without having some knowledgeable information and it
Would most definitely have to effect me in a personal way.
I can hate everybody..regardless of color.
I believe there is good and bad in every color..and that is the
Way I raise my two boys.
Just a ramble...now...its funny how things happen..it was
A black man that raped and cut into pieces my mother sister
And left her body in trash bags...... It was a black family that
Brought me groceries weekly to feed my family<3 for six months.My best friend when
I was pregnant.. that always made sure I ate was black.
When I was robbed this last time.. it was Mexicans.I was molested as a child
By a Mexican man..time before when I was robbed, was white trash.It was a White ghetto doper, that
Got my son hooked..My first marriage was to a Mexican.My MC brothers and
Los and Lettes come in all colors.<3 See where I'm going with this.. THERE IS GOOD AND
BAD IN EVERY COLOR..Jmo.I have a lot of friends and peeps I hate..and none of it has
To do with color of their skin.
2K

This definitely taught me ..a lesson..I will take time to
Read..or not post.

Muaness's photo
Sat 12/07/13 06:43 AM

Here's My Take on Things . . . ( and I really mean this, )

So, Mandela's dead, eh? Who the feck r-e-a-l-l-y cares???? Not I, noting this, for the medias, is just one more opportunity to make commercial dollars, or pounds if ye will. Yep, just another 'splash' of total bullshite we're being fed. We? Meaning those of us who watch world news on TV daily. Nightly. Those of us interested in viewing 'real' news on the local and world levels. Now, for a brief period, everything must stop as we're asked to drop down to our emotional knees and bow to a man who no doubt was probably just another negro gangster back there in south Africa, in his time. And so, now, on the TV we're stuck watching this crap. What I want to know is, what about all the other struggling, hard working lower class people who die every day out here in this turmoil racked world? What about them? Where's the televised supposed sadness for them? Or in fact, when me mam died some years back. No commercial dollars to be made on her death, no!!! The media, what a bunch of feckin' wankers!!! It's funny, there's really no real deeper emotional feelings when someone else ye don't know dies. It's a farce! A joke. We just pretend to care. So, I'll not be getting down on These knees any time soon. By the way, are ye watching these media mouthpieces on the TV right now attempting to act sad? These teleprompter reading " Look at me, I'm cool" fakes? They make me laugh with that uncomfortable anger down in my stomach. I want to knock every one of them out! I want to drop them where they stand. What a society of eejits! What a bunch of phonies.

In short, I have to laugh. I laugh to stave off anger! Anger at the news medias and the pure farce they produce daily. Mandela, ol' chum, you're dead now and I am NOT missin' ye, pal! You never meant anything to either me, my family, or anyone else I know. By the way, you're presence in this world, to me, was a good enough reason why we should all focus our full concentration on curbing migration across the world. If ye don't fit in another country, stay the feck home! If ye can't make it in your neighborhoods, move the feck out. Just don't come here!

tommy boy moran / Ireland.

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Makes no sense. Evidence of boredom

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Sat 12/07/13 07:39 AM
Very harsh words Tommy Boy.
Horrible thing to read actually.



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Sat 12/07/13 04:51 PM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Sat 12/07/13 04:53 PM

Here's My Take on Things . . . ( and I really mean this, )

So, Mandela's dead, eh? Who the feck r-e-a-l-l-y cares???? Not I, noting this, for the medias, is just one more opportunity to make commercial dollars, or pounds if ye will. Yep, just another 'splash' of total bullshite we're being fed. We? Meaning those of us who watch world news on TV daily. Nightly. Those of us interested in viewing 'real' news on the local and world levels. Now, for a brief period, everything must stop as we're asked to drop down to our emotional knees and bow to a man who no doubt was probably just another negro gangster back there in south Africa, in his time. And so, now, on the TV we're stuck watching this crap. What I want to know is, what about all the other struggling, hard working lower class people who die every day out here in this turmoil racked world? What about them? Where's the televised supposed sadness for them? Or in fact, when me mam died some years back. No commercial dollars to be made on her death, no!!! The media, what a bunch of feckin' wankers!!! It's funny, there's really no real deeper emotional feelings when someone else ye don't know dies. It's a farce! A joke. We just pretend to care. So, I'll not be getting down on These knees any time soon. By the way, are ye watching these media mouthpieces on the TV right now attempting to act sad? These teleprompter reading " Look at me, I'm cool" fakes? They make me laugh with that uncomfortable anger down in my stomach. I want to knock every one of them out! I want to drop them where they stand. What a society of eejits! What a bunch of phonies.

In short, I have to laugh. I laugh to stave off anger! Anger at the news medias and the pure farce they produce daily. Mandela, ol' chum, you're dead now and I am NOT missin' ye, pal! You never meant anything to either me, my family, or anyone else I know. By the way, you're presence in this world, to me, was a good enough reason why we should all focus our full concentration on curbing migration across the world. If ye don't fit in another country, stay the feck home! If ye can't make it in your neighborhoods, move the feck out. Just don't come here!

tommy boy moran / Ireland.

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Hello Tomo....I am serching for words, the right words...It's hard Tommy Boy...Hard to criticize a man whose sensitivity and depth has come through so many times in so many lovely pieces...Pieces of your heart is what I always though when I read them...Tender pieces from a man that deserved the "best" words of praise I could offer....This latest leaves me searching my own heart and questioning my own judgement about a man, a poet I though I understood....So I'll just borrow from you and say this....Shame on ye Tomo, shame on ye!....brokenheart

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Sat 12/07/13 06:21 PM

Kick . . .

Thanks for your interesting and respectful comments concerning the ol' black fella. I happen to believe in everything you wrote in your reply here. Well spoken, deep and meaningful words meant to spurn on in us all, the truer, deeper sense of who we are and what we believe and feel toward others. You do make sense, Kick. Well done!

Still, I remain bothered by this modernistic approach to media communication which, at it's base, is designed to form all of us into 'puppet viewers'. I'll not be one, no! And as for the ol' black fella, I did mean everything I said. Didn't know him. Never cared to. Aside from all else he was just another media contrived product bent on making advertising dollars for big media corporations. Just another news article to them. Capitalism at it's finest. Wall Sreet!

By the necessary by, the poem you included here is a very, very old one, Kick. I found same on a tombstone up in northern California some years back. The title was simply, " Sarah ". And it went exactly like this . . .

Sarah

Stop my friends
As you pass by

As you are now
So once was I

As I am now
So you must be

Prepare for death
And follow me.

* This cemetery stone was placed, along with Sarah, in the ground somewhere back in the early to mid 1700's. I walked up to it stopped and looked down and read it. I thought for a moment, " My god, this person is trying to draw in everyone walking by. " I felt these words deeply and have never, ever forgot them. I understand this very sentiment, exacting, is found on other grave stones at various locations around the world. So, it's being used. Thank you for sharing, Kick.

Be well. Thanks again.

tommy boy moran / Ireland

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Tommy, yer out of order with this post!! Nelson Mandela, was a great man. Let the man rest in peace and stop speaking ill of a man, that you could only dream of being?

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Sat 12/07/13 06:24 PM
Leigh, hows the suntan? flowerforyou

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Sat 12/07/13 07:51 PM

Leigh, hows the suntan? flowerforyou


Hello (((Larsson)))waving ....Beautiful weather all week, unseasonably warm and I am loving it!...flowerforyou

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Sat 12/07/13 07:58 PM


Leigh, hows the suntan? flowerforyou


Hello (((Larsson)))waving ....Beautiful weather all week, unseasonably warm and I am loving it!...flowerforyou
Good, good! Hope you're not corrupting those guys down there? Well, not too much anyway? bigsmile flowerforyou

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Sat 12/07/13 09:27 PM

Honestly?

This is probably the most disrespectful, unintelligent thing I've read in my entire life. My advice? Learn a bit about the man before you start hating on what he did, and trust me here, he did an awful f*ing lot.


right it's taking me a moment to digest the OP also...tho I think I'll not refuse the meal....entirely

Nelson Mandela achieved so much. He was president of a country where his people were oppressed for ages. Apartheid no longer exists because of Nelson and Bishop Tutu. He organized the ANC or at least spearheaaded the movement and received a life in prison sentence, the injustice of which spawned an entire musical movement that crossed over into the western world (recall U2)....he may have been the 2nd coming...he certainly was one of the greatest men to ever carve a footprint on planet earth.

no worries I think the OP is a troll...

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