GREIVING--- SOCIALLY ACCEPTED DECENT THING DOCUMENT THEIR RELATIONSHIP? THEY ABSTAIN AND DO NOT REGISTER (OR) CANNOT ABSTAIN FOR 4 YEARS? WHORING IN HER FATHERS HOUSE? I AM GOING TO LEAVE IT ALONE BECAUSE YOU HAVE MISSED SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT GODS TRUE WORDS ARE. I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.

Grieving:
You need to step away from the crack pipe! To be a Bible quoter and Bible thumper, you missed the boat on this one. At no point did the young lady state that she is having sex. That was something you obviously saw in your dreams. If you are indeed a church going person, what gives you the right to judge other people. She asked for advice and you attacked everyone that offered it to her. I will be the first to admit that not everyone's advice may be the best, she will have to pick and choose who she wants to listen to. However, if she is involved with someone like you, someone that shares your beliefs, my advice would not be to run or break up. My advice would be for her to commit suicide. In a hurry! You are the most egotistical, self-centered person I have ever run across in my 46 years. You give men a bad name.
As far as your attack on "unsure" is concerned, I know her. I can talk about the way she leads her life. She is an example for other people to follow. She is not a "man-hater". She is a warm, wonderful person that you would be proud to have in your corner. I have known her several months now and could not ask for a better friend. She is a wonderful mother to her kids, and definitely leads a religious life. She leads by example and attends church on a regular basis. If you want to insult someone and be disrespectful to someone, come out and play with me you friggin hypocrite.

Hey GRIEVING, I have been reading uyou dude, and I think WE may
have met and talked on here before,,,but YOU CHANGED YOUR NAME,,,MAYBE?? Is THIS your second go around here??

if u are not ready to get married then he should wait. after all he says he loves. dont let him rush you.

So U come out to fight for your friend. ok!

So are you CONFESSING that when it comes TO me, she cannot fight for herself. Or if she had a good point, her fight would not be fruitless.

Well, where I work, the men and some women agree with my points and contributed. Also if you had read my posts on this, or you had the capacity UNDERSSTAND, U WOULD have seen that practically ALL pious Church goers (and some not pious as well) will proclaim the SAME things that I am saying.

It is quite clear that U HAVE just come here in a rage, to fight for your friend whether she is RIGHT OR WRONG.

THIS introduces ANOTHER phiposophy which is that 'U ARE NOT HELPING A FRIEND WHEN U TELL THEM THEY ARE RIGHT WHEN THEY ARE WRONG. THEN YOU ARE MAKING A MONSTER OR ADDING FEATURES. TRYING TO MAKE THEM LIKE YOURSELF!

Now come out from sleeping in the BACK of the class, and come sit in front. Take this assingment home. "Read my post again two hundred times for sleeping and just jumping up when U hear the word SEX."

And STOP telling jokes like your friend who was helping you on the stage.
Remember WHEN YOU WERE 18. AND STOP making those FUNNY NOISES and being an IMPS telling me that you are 46yrs old ! When I was 11 U just born.

Two people in love since High School,lost each other, found back each other, now things are GREAT, so they are engaged where marriage is being discussed and they are not having sex because you say so? And you want to CONTROL me to go sit in a corner wringing my hands and crying because you come to fight for your friend. U trying to seek a special screw as U prize. If U only ask for that payment, she will say you are CONTROLLING. THEN, POOR THING, YOU MIGHT COMMIT SUICIDE. Please don't???????

The young lady did not say that her Lover was CONTROLLING. YOU AND OTHER JOKERS WANT TO SEND HIM TO PRISON ON TRUMPHED UP CHARGES.

And why are you so brave to come out without your clown costume for everyone to see your face? It was Unsure who attacked me once more as she ALWAYS DOES. MAYBE SHE LIKES ME. SHE SEND ME FLOWERS!! YOU KNOW THAT. I AM SURE SHE NEVER SENT YOU FLOWERS. Please put away that suicide rope????

i thank you for all of the advice.

and no i am still a virgin so there is no sex involved.

and there are no thoughts of suicide.

Good for you Sweetie...Follow your instincts

stop............... take a deep breath......... and read your topic again....... you have answered your own question.... As soon as you settle in with this guy, he will walk all over your heart, because he is selfish and insecure. But you knew that even before you posted it! You just wanted someone to confirm your suspicions. Well I just did. NO NEED TO THANK ME!

Please consider the fact that he is telling you what you are going to do and how he is trying to manipulate you into doing things his way - R U N ! He is trying to control you and it will only get worse.

Good luck.

Whoa!!!! Let me tell you from experience this guy is controlling and probably has a jealousy problem. I just went through this after 20 years of being single I met a man who made me feel like he was my prince charming and after proposing to me descided he didn't want to wait and swept me down the aisle before I was really ready and before, I admit, had time to think twice. It was a nightmare marriage of which he has stalked me for years. I have left three different states to run from him and he has followed. Finally I (hope) am free of him in yet another state. He was jealous of my friends, family, even my pets. He, I believe now, is emotionally unstable and had made me waste some of the important years of my life as I was never planning to marry and divorce again. The second was to be forever and now I am alone at 51 years and starting over.....There is much more to this story that would scare u to the bone. Listen to your parents, they must 'feel' something about this guy. I didn't listen and it almost cost me my life.

Awww Never2old...I am sorry that you went through all of that!! You know I have always said that if my mom doesn't like someone...to me, thats a red flag. Usually parents can see something way before we can because we are blinded by love. We usually need someone outside of the relationship to really look at it and say something to us and let us know how they really feel about it.
morethanjustjane...I am sure that you have seen all the stuff going on between someone and myself about this thread? You never mentioned sex in your post...but he assumed that you did do it. I just want to say, follow your heart. You don't know any of us here! I am sure that you have prayed about this. Watch for a sign and you will know what to do...again, I wish you luck and a lifetime of happiness. Be blessed

morethanjust_janedoe
CONGRATULATIONS!!! Young lady. THANK GOD!! God bless you.

Your boyfriend's TURN to TESTIFY now.
Do you have ANY objections to BRINGING your boyfriend to testify in this hearing?

CAN WE HEAR HIS SIDE OF THE STORY B4 HE IS SENT TO JAIL FOR BEING CONTROLLING. WOULD YOU ALLOW HIM TO TESTIFY SO THAT YOU WILL NOT BE CALLED THE CONTROLLING ONE?

Judge shouts, and is Echoed through the Courtroom: "BOYFRIEND!!! BOYFRIEND; BOYFRIEND; Boyfriend!!!!
Someone says: "Boyfriend BEFORE the Court M'Lady!

ALL the humans INTERESTED IN FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE sit up ANXIOUSLY!

Boyfriend'S defense ATTORNEY presents and Affidavit which goes goes something like this:
"I really LOVE this girl SINCE High School...We got separated...found each other AGAIN ONLINE.....IT WAS I WHO MADE the SACRIFICE and EXPENSE to GET to her...THINGS ARE GREAT!....I do not want to get separated from her AGAIN...I LOVE HER......I ASK HER TO MARRY ME PLEASE?..... MY Parents want to help.....They say: "You two can STAY at US WHILE you get better financially ...saving while you live here....
.......
My girlfriend INSISTS THAT WE MUST WAIT! I FEEL SHE DOES NOT WANT ME AS SHE IS NOT ANXIOUS AS I AM. she DOES NOT say that I am controlling BUT some are SILENT while others INSIST that I am CONTROLLING.

WHAT SHALL I DO??? OH WHAT SHALL I DO?

rrrr grrrr

Hey grieving..u got ur pic right this time with the jack@$$!!! but really u need some major counselling or maybe u need to be locked up in a looney ward because u are one of most 'out there' of anyone I have ever 'listened to'! I don't think anyone is incarcerated for being controlling and maybe u should read between the lines and, in fact, maybe u should just READ before u start shooting off your insulting tongue because it is only YOU that YOU are making a FOOL of.....and it seems being a fool is your favorite passtime... It is no wonder u are very ALONE, who would want to be around YOU! What a miserable time that would be... Maybe u should get off the drugs and find a doctor to prescribe a drug that would make u like yourself.

Oh grieving, one more thought 4 u...I have reviewed your 'views' throughout this thread and it seems to me that u have most probably spent time in prison. You mention being 'locked up' quite alot for no good reason. For that matter you mention many things for no good reason except that u are a miserable human being who may be trying to hide behind a bible.??! You have failed at that attempt quite miserably.. Also I believe u may be married. How long has it been since anyone has seen your wife??

grieving;

me and my guy are in two different places at the moment. we have had bad things happen to both of us in the past. and while he is ready to jump into marriage i am not because of past situations with not only my parents but because of physically, mentally, and emotionally abusive relationships that i have had. And i have consulted many friends about this (because my parents dont listen to me about him) and they do not like him, nor the vibe that he gives off they think that he is controlling me and they want me to run for the hills. so does that mean all my friends are wrong? ( and just for your info... i have more guy friends than chicks so its men sayting that he is controlling not man hating women.)

Yeah..what she said...what u have to say now..cat got ur tongue, hopefully!! Thank you _janedoe for setting that straight!! Wow what a wierdo!! Maybe he found another topic to spread his misery on...

Time to employ the fine art of compromise - brow beat that sucker into submission

Seriously, it is difficult to be objective about someone you care for. Put substantial weight on the opinions of neutral observers, ie teachers, clergy, others who have no reason to be biased. Don't let them make the decision for you but consider their input. Looking through their eyes may help clear your own. Good luck.

Why the hurry,you dont have to be married to be with someone

You already know what to do! You are absolutely right in wanting to wait, so trust yourself! I know its hard to make serious decisions like this, especially when youre young. Please know that the decisions your making now can effect your entire life.
Your boyfriend sounds insecure and thus controlling. I'd back off of him, it sounds like he wants your world to be only him. I've
had alot of his type and its only brought me heartache and confusion. So, again, you have the right answer, trust yourself above all else, and listen to your Mom, shes right on!!!!!!!!!
She doent hate him, she hates the idea of him restricting your options for your future. She just loves you is all