Topic: When is enough going to be enough for people?
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 11/07/13 11:21 AM

Can't afford a colonoscopy? No problem! Go to New Mexico!

It happened again: Police forced a second man to have invasive procedure

The local news channel that reported the horrifying story of a New Mexico man who was forced to undergo eight different medical procedures as part of a random police search now says it happened more than once.

KOB-TV 4 is now reporting a second incident where New Mexico cops did the same thing to a random driver who committed a minor traffic violation.

In October of last year, Timothy Young was pulled over for failing to signal a turn. After a drug-sniffing dog indicated that Young might be carrying drugs, police obtained a warrant and took him to Gila Regional Medical Center in Silver City. There, doctors administered anal exams, including enemas, X-rays and a colonoscopy.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/06/police-forced-a-second-man-to-have-invasive-surgery/#ixzz2jvZYQXXQ

simpleboy01's photo
Thu 11/07/13 12:17 PM
there is only so much that "we the people" will accept. Once we get tired of it all SHTF, second revolutionary war.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 11/07/13 03:34 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 11/07/13 03:36 PM

there is only so much that "we the people" will accept. Once we get tired of it all SHTF, second revolutionary war.


One can only hope it doesn't come to that..... it's much easier to vote, but seems that doesn't make much of a difference any more either.

The idiot voters outnumber those who actually care enough to read or know what the candidates actually represent.

They let the media vote for them...and dead people. illigals, some more than once

boredinaz06's photo
Thu 11/07/13 05:49 PM



Inner city welfare brat voters are the countries biggest enemy.

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Thu 11/07/13 06:06 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Thu 11/07/13 06:10 PM


there is only so much that "we the people" will accept. Once we get tired of it all SHTF, second revolutionary war.


One can only hope it doesn't come to that..... it's much easier to vote, but seems that doesn't make much of a difference any more either.

The idiot voters outnumber those who actually care enough to read or know what the candidates actually represent.

They let the media vote for them...and dead people. illigals, some more than once



The ballot stuffing and rigged voting machines don't help matters much. You pretty well need a 2/3 majority vote to get a counted 51%...they must be using that new math I used to hear so much about. Let's hear it for the educational system! I figure by now a high school graduate has about the equivalent of a 1955 grade four. At this rate, Jethro Bodine could well be the best educated man in the country. Hopefully he remembers his addin, subtractin', times & guzintas.

Anyway, some of the "old timers" are even getting worried (funny that it only took them about 20 years or so.)

http://investmentwatchblog.com/former-american-president-and-vice-president-nsa-spying-is-destroying-the-constitution/

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Thu 11/07/13 07:04 PM

there is only so much that "we the people" will accept. Once we get tired of it all SHTF, second revolutionary war.


Hell yea! Dude, Let's kick some a$$!explode

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Thu 11/07/13 07:08 PM


there is only so much that "we the people" will accept. Once we get tired of it all SHTF, second revolutionary war.


One can only hope it doesn't come to that..... it's much easier to vote, but seems that doesn't make much of a difference any more either.

The idiot voters outnumber those who actually care enough to read or know what the candidates actually represent.

They let the media vote for them...and dead people. illigals, some more than once



what was the charge? it is illegal to keep him in custody without a charge. I smell BEEEEG timey lawsuitbigsmile

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Fri 11/08/13 12:09 AM


The idiot voters outnumber those who actually care enough to read or know what the candidates actually represent.


I never knew a voter who wasn't an idiot. Everybody knows that voting is just a choice between different factions of the You-plebes-will-do-what-we-want Party.

Try to remember that you are managed by the "Elect" and not the "elected."

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 11/08/13 07:23 AM

It's time to flush the toilet we call DC! And don't forget to bleach it afterwards!

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 11/08/13 07:29 AM
Just keep voting everybody out till they get the message...and we get someone we can stomach. noway

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 11/08/13 07:45 AM

3rd Case! Woman searched invasively for drugs without consent

NM woman comes forward with illegal probing claims

It may be hard to believe that this could happen to yet another New Mexican. KOB's 4 On Your Side team found a woman who claims she was violated by federal agents and doctors.

Laura Schaur Ives, Legal Director for the New Mexico Chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, is representing the woman.

Schaur Ives said the woman doesn't wish to be identified because she considers herself to be a victim of sexual assault. Schaur Ives said the woman crossed the border at a Port of Entry from Juarez, Mexico into El Paso.

A dog alerted to the woman, and Schaur Ives said federal agents stripped searched her at the facility, asked her to undress, to spread her genitalia and to cough. Female agents also allegedly pressed their fingers into her vagina looking for drugs.

The woman claims they didn't discover anything during the on-site strip search, so they took her to University Medical Center of El Paso.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3212603.shtml

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/08/13 09:47 AM
maybe aliens have infiltrated certain government networks in NEW MEXICO?...lol


seriously though, 'people' have enough everyday, and they usually are paid a pretty penny for saying so with a lawsuit,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Fri 11/08/13 10:53 AM

maybe aliens have infiltrated certain government networks in NEW MEXICO?...lol


seriously though, 'people' have enough everyday, and they usually are paid a pretty penny for saying so with a lawsuit,,,


Sure. Free enemas and colonoscopys for everyone after police invade their privacy for minor traffic violations, using "trained dogs" that have a reputation for false positives and failed current certifications because of it.

Heaven forbid people should think they have any rights or expectations of privacy when they make a simple wrong turn!

Typical liberal! Probably even thinks that Obozos' drones killing women and children protects them from future terrorist attacks! frustrated

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Sat 11/09/13 03:22 AM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Sat 11/09/13 03:23 AM
To answer the question the thread asks, IMHO the people will have had enough when they quit trying to get out of jury duty. specifically GRAND JURY duty.

A friend sent me this, and I thought I'd share it with you:

_For Immediate Release_: *Released By: *CHARLOTTE COUNTY
FLORIDA GRAND JURY




*PRESS RELEASE*

On October 8, 2013 the people of Charlotte County Florida came together to
Constitute a Common Law Grand Jury by electing to reestablish the Peoples Jury
here in Charlotte County, Florida, by the following authorities.

In the Supreme Court case of *United States v. Williams, 112 S.Ct. 1735, 504 U.S. 36,
118 L.Ed.2d 352 (1992)*, Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, confirmed
that the American grand jury is neither part of the judicial, executive nor legislative
branches of government, but instead belongs to the people. It is in effect a fourth
branch of government "governed" and administered to directly by and on behalf of
the American people, and its authority emanates from the Bill of Rights, the acts
of the Grand Jury is the consent of the people.

“/The grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the
Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches
described in the first three Articles. It " 'is a constitutional fixture in its own right. In
fact the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the
institutional government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the
Government and the people/”. *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/Thus, citizens have the unbridled right to empanel their own grand juries and
present "True Bills" of indictment to a court, which is then required to commence a
criminal proceeding. Our Founding Fathers presciently thereby created a "buffer"
the people may rely upon for justice, when public officials, including judges,
criminally violate the law/.” *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/The grand jury is an institution separate from the courts, over whose functioning
the courts do not preside, we think it clear that, as a general matter at least, no
such "supervisory" judicial authority exists. The "common law" of the Fifth
Amendment demands/ /a traditional functioning grand jury/.” *-- Justice Antonin
Scalia*

“/Although the grand jury normally operates, of course, in the courthouse and
under judicial auspices, its institutional relationship with the judicial branch has
traditionally been, so to speak, at arm's length. Judges' direct involvement in the
functioning of the grand jury has generally been confined to the constitutive one
of calling the grand jurors together and administering their oaths of office. The
grand jury's functional independence from the judicial branch is evident both in the
scope of its power to investigate criminal wrongdoing, and in the manner in which
that power is exercised/.” *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/The grand jury 'can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated,
or even because it wants assurance that it is not.' It need not identify the offender
it suspects, or even "the precise nature of the offense" it is investigating. The grand
jury requires no authorization from its constituting court to initiate an
investigation, nor does the prosecutor require leave of court to seek a grand jury
indictment. And in its day-to-day functioning, the grand jury generally operates
without the interference of a presiding judge. It swears in its own witnesses and
deliberates in total secrecy/.” *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/Recognizing this tradition of independence, we have said the 5^{th}
Amendment's constitutional guarantee presupposes an investigative body 'acting
independently of either prosecuting attorney or judge” /*-- Justice Antonin Scalia*

“/Given the grand jury's operational separateness from its constituting court, it
should come as no surprise that we have been reluctant to invoke the judicial
supervisory power as a basis for prescribing modes of grand jury procedure. Over
the years, we have received many requests to exercise supervision over the grand
jury's evidence-taking process, but we have refused them all. "it would run counter
to the whole history of the grand jury institution" to permit an indictment to be
challenged "on the ground that there was incompetent or inadequate evidence
before the grand jury/." *-- Justice Antonin Scalia*


You have had the tool to govern your government all along...you just quit using it ya lazy buggers!

Now get those grand juries together and let's see some indictments!

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 11/09/13 04:58 AM

With the gov't doing it's best to pull the teeth of the people, destroy their rights, desolve any active militias, who would enforce it?

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Sat 11/09/13 12:41 PM
Edited by JustDukkyMkII on Sat 11/09/13 12:44 PM


With the gov't doing it's best to pull the teeth of the people, destroy their rights, desolve any active militias, who would enforce it?


The Supreme Court, that's who!...They are bound by LAW to do so, and they have the power if needed to issue the warrants for arrest, which would bind all peace officers to enforce the de jure warrants to arrest the President, the entire congress and senate and to take control of the military if necessary to restore the RULE OF LAW to your country!

And if the Supreme Court refuses to cooperate (High Treason), even THEY could be arrested by de jure peace officers! (but just between you and me, I don't think the Supreme Court would commit treason)