remember how the jury ruled?

and our past presidents have been republicans and democrats, so Im not sure what you mean about the difference in political party?

and I have never claimed all opposition is racism, I have claimed the opposition includes racism,,,

I Do remember how the jury ruled... And you attempting to point out facts, which may have been overlooked, that the jury has not considered. Anyhow, my point wasn't to introduce a "red herring" into the debate... I guess all im saying is, it doesn't always take concrete evidence to win a court case. And it costs money to fight allegations, no matter how truthful. Especially when the crime is largely base on assumption of thought. Also,I have seen affirmative action actually work against its original purpose on several occasions.

To expand on my last comment... I had a liberal girlfriend who did a report on racism for college. Her conclusion was that "racism" could be found anywhere if one looked hard enough. Even if it didn't actually exists... So perhaps we need to ask ourselves from a philosophical standpoint; "Is looking for racism causing racism to exist where it otherwise wouldn't?" At least in part... And, "At what point are we finding things that aren't real?"

Well if you ever find me be sure to let me know if I'm real. I've been wondering about that lately. lol

I only go on my own experience and white racism is pretty rampant especially in the area of where they are ignorant of their own racism that they were taught and perpetuate. Whites don't even realize they are racists quite often.

I speak on my races racism because I am in a position to be exposed to it by them.

I think racism exists,, I don't think looking for it is what makes it exist anymore than looking for crime makes it exist

people judge and people make choices about others based on race

of course, people make bad calls, like anything else in life

but it doesn't happen often enough to dismiss how often the calls are right,, imho

lol

Since reality itself depends upon observers, looking for something will bring it into your sphere of observation hence it will exist in your world.

You will always find what you are looking for, and you will always see (and attract) what you pay attention to.

Everything you can imagine exists, paying attention to it brings it into your reality and into your observation.

Resisting something perpetuates it by bringing it into people's attention.

The quantum law is that if you ignore something, if everyone ignores it, it will cease to exist.

Everything rises from Consciousness.

really? cause I been looking for money for years now and it doesn't seem to materialize into being,,,,lol


I get the whole attraction thing, but its not quite an absolute that pertains to every and anything that exists

some things we see becaue they are there and would be there even if we didn't see them or somehow manifest them through thought

and there is the flip side , that perhaps we can also see the things others manifested whether we wanted to or looked for it or not

because its there

IM doubting jews looked for gas chambers
or slaves lor chains and whips and rapists
or women looked to be hanged for witchcraft,,,etc,,,


some people can see things that aren't there, we can let that be a given and then get on with discussing the things that are actually there,,,without overanalyzing how they come to be there

Of course it does or you couldn't pay your bills.





No, you don't "get the whole attraction thing." You have no clue.

Back to the topic: Racism.

Some will see it everywhere. Some look for it. If you expect it, believe it, and look for it, you WILL FIND IT.

Yes.

It has been said that if the only tool you have is a hammer, then all of your problems will look like nails to you.

Some people cry "Racism!" because they know how to fight that kind of problem.

So does that mean that all problem to pornstars look like condoms? lol

Luckily I have been exposed to very little racism. We don't teach it to our kids up here. I count my blessings for that. However I have been discriminated against in the work environment, on one job. Fortunately it was a retail job, and therefore a temporary situation.

I have also seen one or two instances where friends applying to college have been turned down for other, less qualified applicants, as the school needed (or wanted)to keep diverse numbers.

I have also heard from a close friend, of an accident he was in caused by a drunken driver, who had an open vodka bottle, no drivers license, and no insurance, yet was not arrested. (Turns out the driver was an illegal immigrant. So admittedly this situation had more to do with paperwork and bureaucracy than it did racism.)

yes, some people, probably EVERYONE , can and does make bad calls..

can we focus on the issue of racism that exists though,,?

HAAAA< that's the point, I CANT PAY MY BILLS.. no matter how much I am 'visualizing' it,,,lol


I Expect, believe, and look for PCH at my door everyday,, still not happening though,,,,



anyway,,,those who are looking to be discriminated against have some other illness, and Im not one

there is little to gain, unless one is a martyr(which I certainly am not) to be LOOKING for racism or discrimination

the 'race card' argument is quite ridiculous to most who have experienced racism,, there is no winner or gain to such a 'card'

ur fresh air IZZY, thanks,,,,

and thanks for not telling me that my observations about racism are somehow an illusion that IM creating in my own mind,,,

I agree. Except under circumstances like the one i brought up earlier. White man and black woman with the same credentials applies for a job, or loan, or anything of the nature. White man gets it. Many, if not most, would ASSUME racism. Racism is not easily proven, as it is largely subjective. Pursuing this avenue would anger the employer, who now has to spend thousands fighting this in court, and unless the manager is the business owner, he/she will likely get fired as a result of bad publicity. Now this could cause backlash, and/or over-corrective actions in the future, thereby creating discrimination against whites or blacks where there was none in the first place.

this is another interesting one to me, as I have NEVER been in a position when not getting accepted (to college, or a job) that I had someone contact me to tell me who was accepted/hired and what their qualifications were

NOT ONCE,,,

I think its lazy thinking to 'assume' racism

of course

however, to successfully bring a racism suit, there has to be some pattern or other EVIDENCE of racism ( a history, other 'victims', ie) for most investigators or lawyers to touch it

remember, this is also time out of their caseload, money from their pocket that they could be earning elsewhere

there are those who are strictly litigious and looking for notoriety, but they are more of the exception than the rule

my mom worked for EED a good part of her career, and its much more complex than simpy ASSUING racism or using a 'race card'