Don't want to try to prove you wrong (or right), just want to say I feel you only address one side of the issue, the female side...First off, when women began to change and expand their roles, it was not initiated by desire, it was more or less forced upon us because our men were busy giving their life's blood to protect our freedom and the freedom of other countries.....We found we enjoyed working outside the home, liked how it felt to earn money, understood we could support our families if we had to...We also liked feeling independent....We realized we were just as smart and just as capable as our men...What I see is most men struggling (and succeeding) to catch up to the changes women demanded and continue to demand...Remember, women are embracing these changes as well they should, but men have more or less been forced into, not only adapting to our evolvement, taking on traditionally female roles that lack the empowerment of traditional male roles, ie earning and controlling the money, building wealth which provides power....I understand your point, but I think your assessment that women are more advanced when it comes to personal growth and development is way wrong....This change you are so proud of actually has more to do with women racing to catch up to men....

Good thread!