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ONEOFTHEFEW01 Joined Sat 09/21/13 Posts: 34	Tue 10/01/13 06:51 PM
If the ACA is so great, then why are labor unions complaining about it? If the ACA is so great, then why not have congressional staffers and all federal employees be a part of it? I agree! If the ACA is forced upon the people then everybody and I mean everybody should be forced to have it. Myself, I do not want ACA. I like having the ability to choose what I want, what doctor I want to see and not being fined yearly if I don't agree to accept ACA. You can't tell me there is nothing wrong with ACA when the government is allowed to fine you into submission. It really is not affordable if they force you.

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Tue 10/01/13 06:57 PM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that.

boredinaz06 Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 22764	Tue 10/01/13 07:39 PM
Well they did it again they took a stand against affordable health care. I would be so impressed had they shut down the government to stop the funding for the NSA and its mega domestic spying program. They definitely could have added that to their cause!

boredinaz06 Joined Sun 10/15/06 Posts: 22764	Tue 10/01/13 07:42 PM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that. Congress absolutely exempted themselves from it and are keeping their current set up in which we pay 70% of each members premiums.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 10/02/13 12:04 AM
If the ACA is so great, then why are labor unions complaining about it? If the ACA is so great, then why not have congressional staffers and all federal employees be a part of it? I agree! If the ACA is forced upon the people then everybody and I mean everybody should be forced to have it. Myself, I do not want ACA. I like having the ability to choose what I want, what doctor I want to see and not being fined yearly if I don't agree to accept ACA. You can't tell me there is nothing wrong with ACA when the government is allowed to fine you into submission. It really is not affordable if they force you. there is still free market, choose the insurance you want, just have insurance,,,,or pay a (small) fine,,,

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 10/02/13 12:05 AM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that. Congress absolutely exempted themselves from it and are keeping their current set up in which we pay 70% of each members premiums.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 10/02/13 12:26 AM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that. Congress absolutely exempted themselves from it and are keeping their current set up in which we pay 70% of each members premiums. keep telling yourself that Section 1312; d3 3) VOLUNTARY NATURE OF AN EXCHANGE- (A) CHOICE TO ENROLL OR NOT TO ENROLL- Nothing in this title shall be construed to restrict the choice of a qualified individual to enroll or not to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (B) PROHIBITION AGAINST COMPELLED ENROLLMENT- Nothing in this title shall be construed to compel an individual to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (C) INDIVIDUALS ALLOWED TO ENROLL IN ANY PLAN- A qualified individual may enroll in any qualified health plan, except that in the case of a catastrophic plan described in section 1302(e), a qualified individual may enroll in the plan only if the individual is eligible to enroll in the plan under section 1302(e)(2). (D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE- (i) REQUIREMENT- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). (ii) DEFINITIONS- In this section: (I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS- The term ‘Member of Congress’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate. (II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF- The term ‘congressional staff’ means all full-time and part-time employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 10/02/13 12:53 AM
Well they did it again they took a stand against affordable health care. I would be so impressed had they shut down the government to stop the funding for the NSA and its mega domestic spying program. ..................and WHICH Party loves Freedom?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 10/02/13 12:55 AM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that. Congress absolutely exempted themselves from it and are keeping their current set up in which we pay 70% of each members premiums. keep telling yourself that Section 1312; d3 3) VOLUNTARY NATURE OF AN EXCHANGE- (A) CHOICE TO ENROLL OR NOT TO ENROLL- Nothing in this title shall be construed to restrict the choice of a qualified individual to enroll or not to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (B) PROHIBITION AGAINST COMPELLED ENROLLMENT- Nothing in this title shall be construed to compel an individual to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (C) INDIVIDUALS ALLOWED TO ENROLL IN ANY PLAN- A qualified individual may enroll in any qualified health plan, except that in the case of a catastrophic plan described in section 1302(e), a qualified individual may enroll in the plan only if the individual is eligible to enroll in the plan under section 1302(e)(2). (D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE- (i) REQUIREMENT- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). (ii) DEFINITIONS- In this section: (I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS- The term ‘Member of Congress’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate. (II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF- The term ‘congressional staff’ means all full-time and part-time employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC. which means,they are Exempted!

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 10/02/13 12:59 AM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that. Congress absolutely exempted themselves from it and are keeping their current set up in which we pay 70% of each members premiums. keep telling yourself that Section 1312; d3 3) VOLUNTARY NATURE OF AN EXCHANGE- (A) CHOICE TO ENROLL OR NOT TO ENROLL- Nothing in this title shall be construed to restrict the choice of a qualified individual to enroll or not to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (B) PROHIBITION AGAINST COMPELLED ENROLLMENT- Nothing in this title shall be construed to compel an individual to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (C) INDIVIDUALS ALLOWED TO ENROLL IN ANY PLAN- A qualified individual may enroll in any qualified health plan, except that in the case of a catastrophic plan described in section 1302(e), a qualified individual may enroll in the plan only if the individual is eligible to enroll in the plan under section 1302(e)(2). (D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE- (i) REQUIREMENT- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). (ii) DEFINITIONS- In this section: (I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS- The term ‘Member of Congress’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate. (II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF- The term ‘congressional staff’ means all full-time and part-time employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC. which means,they are Exempted! really? lets review" the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). THE ONLY HEALTH PLANS AVAILABLE,, means 'exempt'? interesting,,,

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Wed 10/02/13 04:43 AM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that. Congress absolutely exempted themselves from it and are keeping their current set up in which we pay 70% of each members premiums. keep telling yourself that Section 1312; d3 3) VOLUNTARY NATURE OF AN EXCHANGE- (A) CHOICE TO ENROLL OR NOT TO ENROLL- Nothing in this title shall be construed to restrict the choice of a qualified individual to enroll or not to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (B) PROHIBITION AGAINST COMPELLED ENROLLMENT- Nothing in this title shall be construed to compel an individual to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (C) INDIVIDUALS ALLOWED TO ENROLL IN ANY PLAN- A qualified individual may enroll in any qualified health plan, except that in the case of a catastrophic plan described in section 1302(e), a qualified individual may enroll in the plan only if the individual is eligible to enroll in the plan under section 1302(e)(2). (D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE- (i) REQUIREMENT- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). (ii) DEFINITIONS- In this section: (I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS- The term ‘Member of Congress’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate. (II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF- The term ‘congressional staff’ means all full-time and part-time employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC. which means,they are Exempted! really? lets review" the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). THE ONLY HEALTH PLANS AVAILABLE,, means 'exempt'? interesting,,, So then they are not being subsidized 72%?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 10/02/13 06:01 AM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that. Congress absolutely exempted themselves from it and are keeping their current set up in which we pay 70% of each members premiums. keep telling yourself that Section 1312; d3 3) VOLUNTARY NATURE OF AN EXCHANGE- (A) CHOICE TO ENROLL OR NOT TO ENROLL- Nothing in this title shall be construed to restrict the choice of a qualified individual to enroll or not to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (B) PROHIBITION AGAINST COMPELLED ENROLLMENT- Nothing in this title shall be construed to compel an individual to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (C) INDIVIDUALS ALLOWED TO ENROLL IN ANY PLAN- A qualified individual may enroll in any qualified health plan, except that in the case of a catastrophic plan described in section 1302(e), a qualified individual may enroll in the plan only if the individual is eligible to enroll in the plan under section 1302(e)(2). (D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE- (i) REQUIREMENT- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). (ii) DEFINITIONS- In this section: (I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS- The term ‘Member of Congress’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate. (II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF- The term ‘congressional staff’ means all full-time and part-time employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC. which means,they are Exempted! really? lets review" the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). THE ONLY HEALTH PLANS AVAILABLE,, means 'exempt'? interesting,,, BTW,WHAT "Free"-Market?

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Wed 10/02/13 06:03 AM
If the ACA is so great, then why are labor unions complaining about it? If the ACA is so great, then why not have congressional staffers and all federal employees be a part of it? I agree! If the ACA is forced upon the people then everybody and I mean everybody should be forced to have it. Myself, I do not want ACA. I like having the ability to choose what I want, what doctor I want to see and not being fined yearly if I don't agree to accept ACA. You can't tell me there is nothing wrong with ACA when the government is allowed to fine you into submission. It really is not affordable if they force you. there is still free market, choose the insurance you want, just have insurance,,,,or pay a (small) fine,,, What "FREE" Market?

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 10/02/13 09:46 AM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? congress has no exemption,,, No but they are given a waiver unlike the rest of us in the same income levels. or not http://www.factcheck.org/2013/08/no-special-subsidy-for-congress/ Keep telling yourself that. Congress absolutely exempted themselves from it and are keeping their current set up in which we pay 70% of each members premiums. keep telling yourself that Section 1312; d3 3) VOLUNTARY NATURE OF AN EXCHANGE- (A) CHOICE TO ENROLL OR NOT TO ENROLL- Nothing in this title shall be construed to restrict the choice of a qualified individual to enroll or not to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (B) PROHIBITION AGAINST COMPELLED ENROLLMENT- Nothing in this title shall be construed to compel an individual to enroll in a qualified health plan or to participate in an Exchange. (C) INDIVIDUALS ALLOWED TO ENROLL IN ANY PLAN- A qualified individual may enroll in any qualified health plan, except that in the case of a catastrophic plan described in section 1302(e), a qualified individual may enroll in the plan only if the individual is eligible to enroll in the plan under section 1302(e)(2). (D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE- (i) REQUIREMENT- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). (ii) DEFINITIONS- In this section: (I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS- The term ‘Member of Congress’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate. (II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF- The term ‘congressional staff’ means all full-time and part-time employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC. which means,they are Exempted! really? lets review" the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are-- (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act). THE ONLY HEALTH PLANS AVAILABLE,, means 'exempt'? interesting,,, So then they are not being subsidized 72%? sigh no under the federal employee health benefits program they USED to be subsidized,, NOW , they are required to use the system they created under reform

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Wed 10/02/13 09:50 AM
If the ACA is so great, then why are labor unions complaining about it? If the ACA is so great, then why not have congressional staffers and all federal employees be a part of it? I agree! If the ACA is forced upon the people then everybody and I mean everybody should be forced to have it. Myself, I do not want ACA. I like having the ability to choose what I want, what doctor I want to see and not being fined yearly if I don't agree to accept ACA. You can't tell me there is nothing wrong with ACA when the government is allowed to fine you into submission. It really is not affordable if they force you. there is still free market, choose the insurance you want, just have insurance,,,,or pay a (small) fine,,, What "FREE" Market? I don't know,, try putting 'health insurance' in your favorite search engine and try counting the pages of options that come back,,,

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Wed 10/02/13 09:51 AM
Well they did it again they took a stand against affordable health care. I would be so impressed had they shut down the government to stop the funding for the NSA and its mega domestic spying program. Uh, what makes you think that Obamacare will actually make health care more affordable? What makes you think it won't? New taxes on medical equipment and supplies, doctors no longer being able to refuse insurance companies, and possible(likely) increase in "red tape"...

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Wed 10/02/13 09:53 AM
After the senate rejected the bill that defunded the ACA the house passed a bill to delay implementation for a year just to be rejected by Harry Reid and the senate. Then the house passed a bill to exclude congresses exemption from the ACA and once again rejected by Reid and the senate. I'd like to ask who are the ones not willing to compromise and work together? Really, i may be out of touch a bit, but they really tried to put congress on this plan?

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Wed 10/02/13 09:58 AM
Well they did it again they took a stand against affordable health care. I would be so impressed had they shut down the government to stop the funding for the NSA and its mega domestic spying program. ..................and WHICH Party loves Freedom? Libertarians?

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 10/02/13 12:37 PM
If the ACA is so great, then why are labor unions complaining about it? If the ACA is so great, then why not have congressional staffers and all federal employees be a part of it? I agree! If the ACA is forced upon the people then everybody and I mean everybody should be forced to have it. Myself, I do not want ACA. I like having the ability to choose what I want, what doctor I want to see and not being fined yearly if I don't agree to accept ACA. You can't tell me there is nothing wrong with ACA when the government is allowed to fine you into submission. It really is not affordable if they force you. there is still free market, choose the insurance you want, just have insurance,,,,or pay a (small) fine,,, What "FREE" Market? What type of healthcare do you have in Switzerland Mr Conrad?

Bestinshow Joined Mon 06/01/09 Posts: 5540	Wed 10/02/13 12:46 PM
How totally absurd for the republican swine to take a stand on the healthcare issue lets remind ourselves on what they did not take a stand on. The Wall st bailouts. Abortion. Iraq war Drone strikes NSA mass domestic spying did I miss anything?