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OK, if we are going to talk about real politics then lets get away from the side show!
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Sounds good Bud...bud what are you talking about hmmmm maybe I need to catch up here and have some more
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The lending company Edwards liquidated his holding to was Fortress.
Edwards was paid $479,512 in 2006 for consulting work for Fortress and had $16 million invested with the firm. Besides purging his them from his personal assests he says he will also take steps to help those individuals who because of Katrina are facing foreclosure by Fortress' units. He claims he believes that nobody in New Orleans should lose their home because of Hurricane Katrina. What exactly he plans on doing I am waiting to see, but it should be visible when he does it! It could just be campaign rhetoric!! It would be really something to see him pay money from his own pocket, but that may be too much for anyone! I know he was just visiting Jimmy Carter a week or so ago, which makes me wonder if hes planning on doing something through Habitat for Humanity! Carter is very involved in that! We will see! |
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Sorry Fanta...if Edwards doesn't know enough about world politics and social systems to actually say he doesn't know if Cuba's health care is state run or not...I can't take him seriously. A fifth grader learns about socialism, and Cuba is one of the premier examples
I starting to lean to BR |
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I think that was gilliani??
could be wrong! |
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No I stand corrected. Edwards said, "I'm going to be honest with you - I don't know a lot about Cuba's healthcare system. Is it a government-run system?" - former Sen. John Edwards
gilliani didnt know the price of gas and milk here at home!! I bet Edwards knows about health care in the US with his wifes fight with cancer! |
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I doubt it Fanta..he so rich he doesn't even use health insurance...just buys the best care, plain and simple
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if he can afford the best care... isnt that a good thing? (for him?)
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As for price of milk and gas...I don't know the prices either...I buy them both all the time..but seldom look at prices...specially Gas..it changes so often..I gave up looking at prices a long time ago
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absolutely Rambill..I have no qualms about his weal th at all...he earned it one way or another.
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Edwards plan is whats important Redwine,
It requires that everybody be covered. It requires that everybody get preventive care. If you are going to be in the system, you can't choose not to go to the doctor for 20 years. You have to go in and be checked and make sure that you are OK. He noted, for example, that women would be required to have regular mammograms in an effort to find and treat "the first trace of problem." Edwards and his wife, Elizabeth, announced earlier this year that her breast cancer had returned and spread. Edwards said his mandatory health care plan would cover preventive, chronic and long-term health care. The plan would include mental health care as well as dental and vision coverage for all Americans. The whole idea is a continuum of care, basically from birth to death, he said. The former North Carolina senator said all presidential candidates talking about health care "ought to be asked one question: Does your plan cover every single American?" "Because if it doesn't they should be made to explain what child, what woman, what man in America is not worthy of health care," he said. "Because in my view, everybody is worth health care." Edwards said his plan would cost up to $120 billion a year, a cost he proposes covering by ending President Bush's tax cuts to people who make more than $200,000 per year. Thats him saying his taxes should be raised as well! How many Politicans do you hear propose that! |
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well Fanta for a guy who adamantly opposes illegal imagration...you know his plan would cover them to...and who pays?? you and me...guys like Edwards??
You say: "Thats him saying his taxes should be raised as well! How many Politicans do you hear propose that!" I hear all the politicians saying "the tax cuts benefit the rich" when all of them are rich...they know better...the very wealthy have most of there "income" in holdings and can claim all kinds of loop holes and deductions...besides..what he says now and what he has done in the past are two different things...don't trust him bro |
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What does that have to do with anything Red wine?
What has Edwards done in the past that upsets you? This is a quote from Edwards and I think it describes the idiocracies of Americans and Politics! Do you want the same old same ild. Why are you willing to take a chance on that instead of taking a chance on America? Will corporate greed be all we value as we move further into the global economy, or will we put workers and families first, so that all jobs pay fair wages, every American has health care and corporate profits work for democracy and not the other way around? Will we face our future as individuals, each of us asking, "What's in it for me?" Or will we return to the central value that makes our nation great? That we are all in this together and each of has a responsibility to the common good. The choices we make will determine not just the quality of life our children will inherit, but the fate of the world we leave behind. To succeed for our children where we have too often failed for ourselves, we must choose a new course. Those wedded to the policies of the 70s, 80s, or 90s are wedded to the past -- ideas and policies that are tired, shop worn and obsolete. We will find no answers there. But small thinking and outdated answers aren't the only problems with a vision for the future that is rooted in nostalgia. The trouble with nostalgia is that you tend to remember what you liked and forget what you didn't. It's not just that the answers of the past aren't up to the job today, it's that the system that produced them was corrupt -- and still is. It's controlled by big corporations, the lobbyists they hire to protect their bottom line and the politicians who curry their favor and carry their water. And it's perpetuated by a media that too often fawns over the establishment, but fails to seriously cover the challenges we face or the solutions being proposed. This is the game of American politics and in this game, the interests of regular Americans don't stand a chance. Real change starts with being honest -- the system in Washington is rigged and our government is broken. It's rigged by greedy corporate powers to protect corporate profits. It's rigged by the very wealthy to ensure they become even wealthier. At the end of the day, it's rigged by all those who benefit from the established order of things. For them, more of the same means more money and more power. They'll do anything they can to keep things just the way they are -- not for the country, but for themselves. |
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Im still not set on my vote.
This sounds like things I read and hear everyday as we all complain about problems in this country and I cant help wonder "WHAT IF?" |
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Fanta..WTF?? you get me interested in Bill Richardson, who I've been seriously considering....now you flip flop...now I'm confused bud
I hope Richardson makes a good run or someone else comes forward...I can't see myself voting for any of the "top" candidates in Democratic party |
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LMAO, Its a long way to the election bro!
I like Richardson, but like I said my options and eyes are still open! I think lobbyist are the greatest evil facing us today! They are the root of corruption in our politics and without fixing that, we cant fix anything! In the end they will just buy the next election! I was showing someone that there are real candidates out there and all hope is not lost yet! Here have a beer, start a thread on Richardson and I'll come see ya!! |
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you can go edwards if ya want
but to suggest he is a peoples person is totally wrong get rid of your energy sucking suv but he cankeep his huge energy sucking mansion (cause he worked his way up from nothing) well how did you get you suv i am sure you just had it handed to you you have not worked and earned it and hey his 400 dollar haircut could have been cut (no pun intended) back to say 75 and the other 325 could have been used for something useful not that he should not be permittted to do these things but to expect the "people" to give up wht they worked for \ while he is not he is not a peoples guy |
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For those of you that think the U.S. Government can run an efficient mandatory helth care system I have a few words, FEMA and Post Office. To describe any government run program in two words, the first word always has to be cluster. Look at Medicare/Medicade and the prescription drug program if you need further examples. About the only thing the govenment, and I am talking both parties, can do with any degree of efficiency is to be caught with their pants down both literally and figuratively.
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Edwards, who has been criticized by some for calling on Americans to be willing to give up their SUVs while driving one, acknowledged Sunday that he owns a Ford Escape hybrid SUV, purchased within the year, and a Chrysler Pacifica, which he said he has had for years.
"I think all of us have to move, have to make progress," he said. "I'm not holier-than-thou about this. ... I'm like a lot of Americans, I see how serious this issue is and I want to address it myself and I want to help lead the nation in the right direction." He said he would not buy another SUV in the future. He is not the richest politican out there by a long shot adj4u! What do you drive? |
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