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Topic: was Jesus actually Julius Ceaser?
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Tue 08/06/13 01:37 PM





just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



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Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why



i can't see your proof there... some fictional writing vrs historical documents...

this guy just connected a few dots to sell a book, not much more than that... there is no proof to either way that Jesus really even existed in the first place...


My understanding is thier are historical documents about Polycarp. about how he kept passover and the Torah which the roman emporer wanted to cease but it did not basically untill the Council of Nicea where constantine decided what and how the fath would be reserved and it is still here today what the churches follow from an edict a pagan decided. Polycarp has lots of books written about him he was as well known as the Apostles themselves


when the Vatican, the Jews and muslims open up their vaults for the world to see, then the common folks like ourselves might really know something about what really happened... but as long as they hide truths from us, it's all just speculation...

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Tue 08/06/13 01:45 PM






just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



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Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why



i can't see your proof there... some fictional writing vrs historical documents...

this guy just connected a few dots to sell a book, not much more than that... there is no proof to either way that Jesus really even existed in the first place...


My understanding is thier are historical documents about Polycarp. about how he kept passover and the Torah which the roman emporer wanted to cease but it did not basically untill the Council of Nicea where constantine decided what and how the fath would be reserved and it is still here today what the churches follow from an edict a pagan decided. Polycarp has lots of books written about him he was as well known as the Apostles themselves


when the Vatican, the Jews and muslims open up their vaults for the world to see, then the common folks like ourselves might really know something about what really happened... but as long as they hide truths from us, it's all just speculation...


u r right.. What r they afraid of?

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/06/13 01:51 PM







just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



i'm not sure i follow ya here... how does this relate to the article?



Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why



i can't see your proof there... some fictional writing vrs historical documents...

this guy just connected a few dots to sell a book, not much more than that... there is no proof to either way that Jesus really even existed in the first place...


My understanding is thier are historical documents about Polycarp. about how he kept passover and the Torah which the roman emporer wanted to cease but it did not basically untill the Council of Nicea where constantine decided what and how the fath would be reserved and it is still here today what the churches follow from an edict a pagan decided. Polycarp has lots of books written about him he was as well known as the Apostles themselves


when the Vatican, the Jews and muslims open up their vaults for the world to see, then the common folks like ourselves might really know something about what really happened... but as long as they hide truths from us, it's all just speculation...


u r right.. What r they afraid of?

loss of the power they have...

Milesoftheusa's photo
Tue 08/06/13 03:53 PM








just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



i'm not sure i follow ya here... how does this relate to the article?



Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why



i can't see your proof there... some fictional writing vrs historical documents...

this guy just connected a few dots to sell a book, not much more than that... there is no proof to either way that Jesus really even existed in the first place...


My understanding is thier are historical documents about Polycarp. about how he kept passover and the Torah which the roman emporer wanted to cease but it did not basically untill the Council of Nicea where constantine decided what and how the fath would be reserved and it is still here today what the churches follow from an edict a pagan decided. Polycarp has lots of books written about him he was as well known as the Apostles themselves


when the Vatican, the Jews and muslims open up their vaults for the world to see, then the common folks like ourselves might really know something about what really happened... but as long as they hide truths from us, it's all just speculation...


u r right.. What r they afraid of?

loss of the power they have...


Thats the truth. maybe something will happen where for some reason they decide to open them up

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/07/13 12:02 PM









just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



i'm not sure i follow ya here... how does this relate to the article?



Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why



i can't see your proof there... some fictional writing vrs historical documents...

this guy just connected a few dots to sell a book, not much more than that... there is no proof to either way that Jesus really even existed in the first place...


My understanding is thier are historical documents about Polycarp. about how he kept passover and the Torah which the roman emporer wanted to cease but it did not basically untill the Council of Nicea where constantine decided what and how the fath would be reserved and it is still here today what the churches follow from an edict a pagan decided. Polycarp has lots of books written about him he was as well known as the Apostles themselves


when the Vatican, the Jews and muslims open up their vaults for the world to see, then the common folks like ourselves might really know something about what really happened... but as long as they hide truths from us, it's all just speculation...


u r right.. What r they afraid of?

loss of the power they have...


Thats the truth. maybe something will happen where for some reason they decide to open them up


doubtful... they would lose all of their religion when the people find out about the aliens that used humans as slaves 10,000 years ago... the real god/gods...lol

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Wed 08/07/13 01:04 PM
Julius Caesar on a crutch!

Just doesn't have the same ring.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 08/08/13 09:08 AM

Julius Caesar on a crutch!

Just doesn't have the same ring.

just say JC then...


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Thu 08/08/13 09:48 AM









just a fragment what was recorded about Polycarp

Polycarp (Greek: Πολύκαρπος Polýkarpos; AD 69–155) was a 2nd-century Christian bishop of Smyrna.[1] According to the Martyrdom of Polycarp he died a martyr, bound and burned at the stake, then stabbed when the fire failed to touch him.[2] Polycarp is regarded as a saint in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and Lutheran churches.

It is recorded by Irenaeus, who heard him speak in his youth, and by Tertullian,[3] that he had been a disciple of John the Apostle.[4][5] Saint Jerome wrote that Polycarp was a disciple of John and that John had ordained him bishop of Smyrna.

The early tradition that expanded upon the Martyrdom to link Polycarp in competition and contrast with John the Apostle who, though many people had tried to kill him, was not martyred but died of old age after being exiled to the island of Patmos, is embodied in the Coptic language fragmentary papyri (the "Harris fragments") dating to the 3rd to 6th centuries.[6] Frederick Weidmann, their editor, interprets the "Harris fragments" as Smyrnan hagiography addressing Smyrna-Ephesus church rivalries, which "develops the association of Polycarp and John to a degree unwitnessed, so far as we know, either before or since".[7] The fragments echo the Martyrology, and diverge from it.

With Clement of Rome and Ignatius of Antioch, Polycarp is regarded as one of three chief Apostolic Fathers. The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons.



i'm not sure i follow ya here... how does this relate to the article?



Polycarp was a disciple of John and was ordain a Bishop by him. He was very well respected and know in the 1st and 2nd centuries and his historians recorded what he said about what John told him about Yahshua in the 1st century. He even is the known writer to the

"The sole surviving work attributed to his authorship is his Letter to the Philippians; it is first recorded by Irenaeus of Lyons."


Proof that Juliuos ceaser was not Yahshua and it is not about him as the writer try to say.. he does not show you this.. anyone who spent that muc time had to know about these writings that survived and he ignored them for his own cause.. Thats why



i can't see your proof there... some fictional writing vrs historical documents...

this guy just connected a few dots to sell a book, not much more than that... there is no proof to either way that Jesus really even existed in the first place...


My understanding is thier are historical documents about Polycarp. about how he kept passover and the Torah which the roman emporer wanted to cease but it did not basically untill the Council of Nicea where constantine decided what and how the fath would be reserved and it is still here today what the churches follow from an edict a pagan decided. Polycarp has lots of books written about him he was as well known as the Apostles themselves


when the Vatican, the Jews and muslims open up their vaults for the world to see, then the common folks like ourselves might really know something about what really happened... but as long as they hide truths from us, it's all just speculation...


u r right.. What r they afraid of?

loss of the power they have...


Thats the truth. maybe something will happen where for some reason they decide to open them up
Petition the Pope,he has the Keys to the Catacombs and owns all the Stuff down there!

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Sat 09/07/13 07:21 PM
NO apsolutely not. Jesus is the Son of the living God, He is not Ceasar. Anyone who tries to convince you my savior is something besides the Son of the living God is lying to you. Most likely they are lying because they do not want to face the truth about the fact they are a sinner, they also do noit want to face the fact they will be judged. Please for your own sake do not listen to the lies, acknoweldge Jesus who created you, and loves you, ad wants to give you exceedingly abundantly more than you could think or ask.

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Sat 09/07/13 07:43 PM

NO apsolutely not. Jesus is the Son of the living God, He is not Ceasar. Anyone who tries to convince you my savior is something besides the Son of the living God is lying to you. Most likely they are lying because they do not want to face the truth about the fact they are a sinner, they also do noit want to face the fact they will be judged. Please for your own sake do not listen to the lies, acknoweldge Jesus who created you, and loves you, ad wants to give you exceedingly abundantly more than you could think or ask.

and how do you know any of this? ... someone told you...

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