Maybe the living seperate lives one but they do seem like the sorts of things that men complain that women do and women tend to complain that men do just the opposite and don't communicate, don't you think?

I realize you want to make this about women, but these are not mistakes that only women make. If they were mistakes that only women made, then maybe you could have separate topics, but really there is no need for separate topics. The same things would be repeated in both.

The topic of this thread is an article written about mistakes that wives make (and yes, the author of the article is a woman).

Trying to shift attention to husbands doesn't refute anything that the author says in her article.

I didn't say women didn't make mistakes. I said these weren't things that only women did.

So, do you agree that wives are making a mistake if they do the six things cited in the author's article?

I think maybe people are making mistakes when they do 3, 4 or 5. There's no point in being married if you're going to live totally parallel lives, expecting someone to change doesn't work and being negative all the time is not a good thing.

2. You think that talking about these problems with your husband is the answer. All too often, women think that talking to our husbands is the way to make them see how their behavior affects us. If the behavior doesn't change when we first bring it up, we want to talk more, longer, or louder because we think maybe they didn't get it the first time.

What about the author's point #2?

Here is what she says:

YourTango.com has published an article by relationship coach Teresa Atkin titled "6 Mistakes Women Make That Lead To Divorce"

Here are the six mistakes by women that Atkin mentions:

1. You talk to friends about the rotten thing you think your husband did to you.

2. You think that talking about these problems with your husband is the answer.

3. You believe that your happiness depends on your husband changing.

4. You live parallel lives.

5. You focus on what's wrong.

6. You utter these deadly words: "I deserve ... "

I realize that women may want to talk about mistakes that men make, but that topic belongs on a different thread. So, please limit your comments to the topic stated in this post's title.

You will have to read Atkin's article to know what she is talking about.

Here is an excerpt:



FWIW, I am not saying that I agree with Atkin. I am merely starting a discussion for the purpose of having a discussion.

Now, what say you about the topic?

I think divorce is a two way street. That list just could have easily been written about men.

Not really. Sure, there are some men who don't talk about problems, but there are also those who do. I can see men doing all of those things.

I agree dodo is just a wind up...lol

Yeah and there are also men that like to wear high heals and makeup.

... Ok? What does that have to do with what we're talking about?

Dodo likes to try to get others wound up here. Haha.

Oh, come on. Nagging and trying to get their men to change are typical complaints that men make about women. So is having to talk about the relationship all the time. Ask the average woman what annoys her about men and I don't think she's going to produce a list like that.

and we fall for it like sheep to the trough lol

People can't push your buttons if your buttons didn't exist in the first place.

At least you're admitting to trying to push people's buttons. Most didn't fall for these being women only issues, though.

I will repeat something that I say in my OP: I am not saying that I agree with Atkin.

Frankly, I don't see any of the things that Atkin mentions as leading to divorce if a married couple have made a commitment to stick together for better or worse.