There is a ton of info on the subject, but organic to some is not organic to others...

http://organic.about.com/od/organiccertification/f/Are-Organic-Seeds-Required-For-Organic-Certification.htm


Then there is the cost of buying organic ....I totally agree with your take JB, just don't think avoiding GMO is as easy as you're making it out to be....

It is not easy at all. Organic is expensive, true.

But so is healthcare.

Pretty much all corn products are GMO... nix them.
No corn oil, no Canola oil etc.

No cornmeal, no corn bread, no corn chips etc.

No it isn't easy at all.

Some products claim to be organic but are not. I have heard that "certified organic" is pretty safe.

There are watchdogs who do keep a close eye on what is and is not.
You have to get in these circles.

Same with GMO.

Nope, not easy.

Not to mention, beef, chicken, pork...are all fed GMO corn stuff.

Not all. Some beef are only allowed to eat grass. It costs a little more.

But you never know where to get that. Are they marked at your market? They are not labeled at mine.

monsanto lobbied and had it set where GMO is not labeled in anyway,
but organic and the meats are marked, something like farm raised or prarie... forgot what they call it when they eat nothing but natural foods...

I guess all the beef at my store are raised in a feed lot on a pile of cow dung and fed GMO corn.

This year, the USDA began requiring nutrition labels on meat. But some of the language can still be confusing. This guide can help:

Natural: All fresh meat qualifies as natural, as it doesn't contain additives and is not more than minimally processed, which is what the USDA requires, so this phrase is useless.

Organic: The USDA's criteria state that foods cannot contain hormones or antibiotics, and the animals must have been fed a vegetarian, pesticide-and herbicide-free diet without genetically modified sources or animal byproducts, and had continuous access to pasture.

Grass-fed: Nearly all cattle are fed grass at some point in their lives, so this term is virtually meaningless. If you want beef from cows that grazed exclusively on grass for their entire lives, look for the American Grassfed label, which requires that animals were raised on pasture and have never been confined, fed grain, or given antibiotics or hormones.

Pasture-raised: While there is no specific pasture-raised certification, animals raised this way can roam freely in their natural environment. Certified organic meat must come from pasture-raised animals.

Certified Angus Beef: Nearly 65 percent of cattle are black-hided and receive the Angus stamp, but only 25 percent of Angus-influenced cattle actually meet Certified Angus Beef standards, which are the criteria that truly make a cut of beef the best quality.

rBGH-free or rBST-free: Signifies that the product came from cows that were not treated with a genetically engineered growth hormone that artificially increases milk production but which may cause health problems in humans.

Grass or Grain?
The majority of beef in America is from corn-or grain-fed cows, but some experts swear by grass-fed, claiming its flavor and slightly higher level of heart-healthy omega-3s give it an edge. It usually comes from cows that are raised outdoors rather than crowded into concentrated animal feeding operations. (Animals that may be outdoors for as little as the first six to 12 months of life can be called "grain

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/nutrition/meat-labelsfinished.")

The brand sold here is "Nolan Ryan".

http://nolanryanbeef.com/our-products/

I noticed that Tyson Foods was not on the list.
Walmart milk has a disclaimer: Our farmers have pledged not to treat any of their cows with any artificial growth hormones. According to the FDA, no significant difference has been shown between milk derived from rBST treated and non-rBST treated cows.

Also coconut oil, that's even healthier, and it's better to heat than olive oil since it has a higher smoke point and isn't damaged by the process as olive oil (which is best used unheated for that reason) and others are.

and so is all the junk food we eat too. A lot of people complain about costs, but yet refuse to change their habits to accomodate it. It will cost you a LOT more if you try and serve both masters than if you focused on one or the other. So to a degree all the talk about cost is a bit of a copout and basically is saying you don't wanna change. It comes down to priorities in that way, do you wanna eat healthy or not you know?

might be interesting to note that George Soros also owns Stock in Monsanto!
Also invested elsewhere into the Food-Produce Industry!

Of course he does.

"Soros was born in Budapest, Hungary, to a nonobservant Jewish family."

He's a non-religious (non-Jewish) "Jew."

yep,George wants everyone to eat healthy!


http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morning_call/2010/11/soros-buys-897813-monsanto-shares.html


http://www.google.ch/search?safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=soros+buys+monsanto&revid=1608525493&sa=X&ei=aF2qUe3ALIOJ4gTRmIDwAg&ved=0CEEQ1QIoAA

Monsatan Cucumbers Cause Genital Baldness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7cd2BEmza0&feature=youtu.be

Damn,it's getting serious now!

Well.... I might consider one exception to the Monsatan ban and support a law requiring women to eat cucumbers

(It's a joke....ok?)

Yeh it is really difficult to shave and painful when that grows back.

Monsanto set to halt GMO push in Europe

(Good for European farmers!) SO ITS ALSO THE FAULT OF THE FARMERS THAT WE HAVE GMO CROPS. No one is forcing them to plant GMO crops.




http://rt.com/news/monsanto-stop-lobbying-eu-084/

Monsanto plans to halt lobbying for its genetically modified plant varieties in Europe due to low demand from local farmers, a representative from the US agricultural giant told a German daily.

"We are no longer working on lobbying for more cultivation in Europe," Brandon Mitchner a representative for Monsanto’s European branch, Tageszeitung, said in an interview set to be published on Saturday.

"Currently we do not plan to apply for the approval of new genetically modified crops. The reason is, among other things, low demand of the farmers,” he continued.

A spokeswoman for Monsanto Germany, Ursula Luttmer-Ouazane, admitted that Monsanto recognizes that GMO crops were currently not embraced on the European market.

"We've understood that such plants don't have any broad acceptance in European societies," Luttmer-Ouazane said. “It is counterproductive to fight against windmills," she added.

A spokesperson for the German Ministry of Economy and Technologies described the move as an “entrepreneurial decision” which needed no further comment. The ministry added, however, it has long made its opposition to gene modification technologies known.

"The promises of the GM industry have not come true for European agriculture, nor have they for the agriculture in developing and emerging economies," the ministry said in a statement.

Eight national governments in the European Union have already banned Monsanto's MON810 maize and other forms of GMO cultivation in their countries under an environmental protection provision known as the 'Safeguard Clause'.

Particularly fierce protests in Germany prompted the government to introduce the measures in 2009 due to concerns that such cultivation could lead to ecological degradation.

Monsanto’s rivals, such as Bayer CropScience, BASF and Syngenta, had by and large pulled out of the German market because of large-scale public opposition, the German daily reported.

Austria, Bulgaria, France, Greece, Hungary, Luxembourg and most recently Poland are among other EU member states enforcing the ban. In April, Italy joined the ranks of EU states looking to ban the cultivation of GM crops on its soil.