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Topic: Obama wants to honor a traitor!!!
Conrad_73's photo
Fri 04/05/13 09:09 AM

there is no evidence here that obama is honoring her,,,

no further details about how ,, or when,, etc,,

its a regurgitation of the same sensational gossip that has been in circulation for years

an internet search will bring up several such stories with different people allegedly 'honoring' her and the same details following the claim,,,,,,no evidence to support it at all,,,,
he shouldn't go near her!
Same,shouldn't have even considered Kerry as Secretary of State!

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 04/05/13 09:12 AM

there is no evidence here that obama is honoring her,,,

no further details about how ,, or when,, etc,,

its a regurgitation of the same sensational gossip that has been in circulation for years

an internet search will bring up several such stories with different people allegedly 'honoring' her and the same details following the claim,,,,,,no evidence to support it at all,,,,


I agree with msharmony. The OP provides no evidence whatsoever that President Obama is going to honor Jane Fonda in any way.

I suspect that the OP is nothing but a repeat of an urban legend that has been produced for the purpose of making President Obama look bad.

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/05/13 09:13 AM
well, people are not any one moment in their life, especially a moment that happened decades ago

politically, she would be poinsonous to him because of mans unforgiving nature,,


I dont know if he shouldnt go near her morally speaking, but politically it is best to keep a distance,,,,

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 04/05/13 09:25 AM




I can't believe yall are surprised that a liberal POS like obama would praise and honor a liberal POS like fonda. Talking about a guy who wept when he heard hugo chavez died and will no doubt ball like a baby when louis farakhan finally dies.

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/05/13 09:28 AM
I will cry when Farrakhan dies, he has done alot to uplift alot of people, and reinforce the concept of the family structure,

whatever his flaws are,,,,

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 04/05/13 10:25 AM

I will cry when Farrakhan dies, he has done alot to uplift alot of people, and reinforce the concept of the family structure,

whatever his flaws are,,,,


farraCON is a crook! He preaches hate and gets his followed in a lather then has them put their hard earned welfare money into his hat. He asks his followers for donations as all religious/political figures do, most of which live in poverty while he has multi million dollar mansions. Saw a picture of one of his homes in Time or People years ago and the foyer was bigger than my house. There is a chandelier hangin from the ceiling that looked to be 8'-10' in diameter. He takes money from the poor and uneducated and lives in the lap of luxury because he takes advantage of idiots.

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 04/05/13 10:48 AM

well, people are not any one moment in their life, especially a moment that happened decades ago

politically, she would be poinsonous to him because of mans unforgiving nature,,


I dont know if he shouldnt go near her morally speaking, but politically it is best to keep a distance,,,,



You would have an unforgiving nature to Jane Fonda too if you had bullets whizzing by you and striking your buddies. Whether the war was just or not, we were there to serve our country.

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/05/13 11:47 AM


I will cry when Farrakhan dies, he has done alot to uplift alot of people, and reinforce the concept of the family structure,

whatever his flaws are,,,,


farraCON is a crook! He preaches hate and gets his followed in a lather then has them put their hard earned welfare money into his hat. He asks his followers for donations as all religious/political figures do, most of which live in poverty while he has multi million dollar mansions. Saw a picture of one of his homes in Time or People years ago and the foyer was bigger than my house. There is a chandelier hangin from the ceiling that looked to be 8'-10' in diameter. He takes money from the poor and uneducated and lives in the lap of luxury because he takes advantage of idiots.


the same could be and has been said about any of our religious leaders, most who have much more wealth than farrakhan


and I doubt his 'followers' are any more or less on 'welfare' than members of any church or political affiliatiion which accepts donations,,,

but in any case, the impact he has made for many families is something I respect and appreciate and something that will be missed when he is gone,,,

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/05/13 11:49 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 04/05/13 11:52 AM


well, people are not any one moment in their life, especially a moment that happened decades ago

politically, she would be poinsonous to him because of mans unforgiving nature,,


I dont know if he shouldnt go near her morally speaking, but politically it is best to keep a distance,,,,



You would have an unforgiving nature to Jane Fonda too if you had bullets whizzing by you and striking your buddies. Whether the war was just or not, we were there to serve our country.



I dont think I would, and Im sure not everry single vet does either

the country was divided by many who opposed that war, it still happens when there are wars that people do not support them and are accused of therefore not supporting the troops

I choose not to define anyone by what they do in any one moment,, thats just me, ,I know its not the norm,,,,

I dont believe in anything being 'unforgivable', ,,,,

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 04/05/13 12:51 PM



well, people are not any one moment in their life, especially a moment that happened decades ago

politically, she would be poinsonous to him because of mans unforgiving nature,,


I dont know if he shouldnt go near her morally speaking, but politically it is best to keep a distance,,,,



You would have an unforgiving nature to Jane Fonda too if you had bullets whizzing by you and striking your buddies. Whether the war was just or not, we were there to serve our country.



I dont think I would, and Im sure not everry single vet does either

the country was divided by many who opposed that war, it still happens when there are wars that people do not support them and are accused of therefore not supporting the troops

I choose not to define anyone by what they do in any one moment,, thats just me, ,I know its not the norm,,,,

I dont believe in anything being 'unforgivable', ,,,,



So if you're husband continuously cheated on you he would be forgiven? Geesh, you are easy (but i would never cheat anyway).

msharmony's photo
Fri 04/05/13 12:54 PM




well, people are not any one moment in their life, especially a moment that happened decades ago

politically, she would be poinsonous to him because of mans unforgiving nature,,


I dont know if he shouldnt go near her morally speaking, but politically it is best to keep a distance,,,,



You would have an unforgiving nature to Jane Fonda too if you had bullets whizzing by you and striking your buddies. Whether the war was just or not, we were there to serve our country.



I dont think I would, and Im sure not everry single vet does either

the country was divided by many who opposed that war, it still happens when there are wars that people do not support them and are accused of therefore not supporting the troops

I choose not to define anyone by what they do in any one moment,, thats just me, ,I know its not the norm,,,,

I dont believe in anything being 'unforgivable', ,,,,



So if you're husband continuously cheated on you he would be forgiven? Geesh, you are easy (but i would never cheat anyway).



yes, eventually he would, with time, and with an absense of further cheating we may even work it through

if the infidelity was habitual and ocntinual, with time there would STILL be forgiveness although there would be no willingness for me to remain in an intimate relationship with him,,,

oldhippie1952's photo
Fri 04/05/13 12:57 PM
msharmony...you're too good.

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 04/05/13 01:58 PM
Folks, this alleged linking of President Obama to Jane Fonda is simple nonsense unless someone can provide evidence of such a link. The OP doesn't provide such evidence. It merely makes a wild claim that could just be a hoax.

no photo
Fri 04/05/13 03:47 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 04/05/13 03:55 PM
I don't know what Fonda did or didn't do but I do know that the war in Viet Nam was not about our freedom.

It was a nasty unpopular war and an entire generation protested it. Yes, women and babies were slaughtered, yes our military were even experimented on with drugs.... BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT.

It was an evil war and we had no intention of winning it.!!

Fonda was one of the few who spoke out against that awful war when everyone thought it was a noble cause.... which it wasn't.

no photo
Fri 04/05/13 03:51 PM





I can't believe yall are surprised that a liberal POS like obama would praise and honor a liberal POS like fonda. Talking about a guy who wept when he heard hugo chavez died and will no doubt ball like a baby when louis farakhan finally dies.



I was sad for Hugo Chavez. He was a popular democratically elected president that actually helped the poor people in his country. The CIA attempted a coup to over throw him and failed.

What do we, as a free country have against a democracy? I will tell you what, that democracy refused to sell out and buckle under to the global economic fraudulent banking practice of the elite.


karmafury's photo
Sat 04/06/13 04:35 AM
Edited by karmafury on Sat 04/06/13 04:37 AM




A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED.
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA.

This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."

Barbara Walters writes:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during the Vietnam War.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison, the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "peace activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward onto the camp commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

>From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton". . . the first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action." His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. . . At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper..
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Banme Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received. . . and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget. . . "100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer, and she needs to know that we will never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt,
USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron,
Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343




Here is the break down on what is truthful and what is false from this e-mail:

Jane Fonda was honored by Barbara Walters in her special on ABC by being one of the top 100 most influential women of the century on April 30, 1999. True
The passing of slips of papers to Jane Fonda and subsequent beatings that caused the death of three men is False
The story about LTC Jerry Driscoll is False
The story about Col. Larry Carrigan is False.
The story about the civilian (Michael Benge) is True. It came from post he made on the internet at the Advocacy And Intelligence Index —April 28, 1999


http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda_urban_legends.htm




However I still think ................. Frag Hanoi Jane!!

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 04/06/13 06:47 AM






I can't believe yall are surprised that a liberal POS like obama would praise and honor a liberal POS like fonda. Talking about a guy who wept when he heard hugo chavez died and will no doubt ball like a baby when louis farakhan finally dies.



I was sad for Hugo Chavez. He was a popular democratically elected president that actually helped the poor people in his country. The CIA attempted a coup to over throw him and failed.

What do we, as a free country have against a democracy? I will tell you what, that democracy refused to sell out and buckle under to the global economic fraudulent banking practice of the elite.


Chavez democratic?
How did he become Ruler of Venezuela?

Besides,he sold out his Poor at every turn!
Giving away Oil at cost to every Tom Dick and Harry,impoverishing Venezuela!
Chavez ran a State like Mussolini did!

no photo
Sat 04/06/13 05:37 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 04/06/13 05:39 PM







I can't believe yall are surprised that a liberal POS like obama would praise and honor a liberal POS like fonda. Talking about a guy who wept when he heard hugo chavez died and will no doubt ball like a baby when louis farakhan finally dies.



I was sad for Hugo Chavez. He was a popular democratically elected president that actually helped the poor people in his country. The CIA attempted a coup to over throw him and failed.

What do we, as a free country have against a democracy? I will tell you what, that democracy refused to sell out and buckle under to the global economic fraudulent banking practice of the elite.


Chavez democratic?
How did he become Ruler of Venezuela?

Besides,he sold out his Poor at every turn!
Giving away Oil at cost to every Tom Dick and Harry,impoverishing Venezuela!
Chavez ran a State like Mussolini did!



Did you actually live there? I doubt it. I didn't either but I do know the gist of the story and the attempted coup by the CIA and how the people demanded to have their president back.

He was elected, that is how he became president.

He did more for the poor than the previous ruler.

A lot of people liked him a lot.

I'm sure not everyone. But why does the Elite continue to stick their noses in the business of a democratic country and try to over throw the government and install a puppet government?

You can know them by their deeds. That's what they do. Its called "globalization."


no photo
Sat 04/06/13 05:44 PM





A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED.
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA.

This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."

Barbara Walters writes:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during the Vietnam War.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison, the "Hanoi Hilton."

Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "peace activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.

He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward onto the camp commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk.

In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

>From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton". . . the first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action." His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat. . . At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper..
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia; and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Banme Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received. . . and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient."

Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.

These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget. . . "100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer, and she needs to know that we will never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt,
USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron,
Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343




Here is the break down on what is truthful and what is false from this e-mail:

Jane Fonda was honored by Barbara Walters in her special on ABC by being one of the top 100 most influential women of the century on April 30, 1999. True
The passing of slips of papers to Jane Fonda and subsequent beatings that caused the death of three men is False
The story about LTC Jerry Driscoll is False
The story about Col. Larry Carrigan is False.
The story about the civilian (Michael Benge) is True. It came from post he made on the internet at the Advocacy And Intelligence Index —April 28, 1999


http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda_urban_legends.htm




However I still think ................. Frag Hanoi Jane!!



So this entire thread about Jane Fonda is a bunch of lies.

Like I said before, she was one of the few celebrities who spoke out against that awful nasty unpoplar bloody war first... when it was not the popular thing to be doing.

Then the nation followed suit with protests. That was the 60's, An entire generation protested Viet Nam -- as they should have. That war was not about American freedom.

No war is about that. Wars are started by the Elite for their own purposes.




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