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This Vid Says it All.
http://youtu.be/DWp79jvy9aA |
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Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage.
Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law. Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution. |
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Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage. Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law. Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution. I think it has been linked in with declaration of independence very BROAD heading of 'life', 'liberty' and the 'pursuit of happiness' I guess marriage is one of many ways poeople 'pursue happiness' |
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Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage. Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law. Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution. i'm not for gay marriage by any means, but technically, i think that gay marriage could be considered in the constitution, under the pursuit of happiness clause... |
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Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage. Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law. Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution. i'm not for gay marriage by any means, but technically, i think that gay marriage could be considered in the constitution, under the pursuit of happiness clause... pursuit of happiness is the declaration of independence, not the constitution,,, but , I agree, that and a pandoras box of other activities could easily slide into the category of 'pursuit of happiness',,,, |
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Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage. Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law. Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution. If marriage was solely a religious practice, why are non-religious people allowed to marry? |
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Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage. Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law. Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution. i'm not for gay marriage by any means, but technically, i think that gay marriage could be considered in the constitution, under the pursuit of happiness clause... Its not in the constitution its in the declaration of independence. Marriage is NOT a right. It is a legal designation that must be met by certain criteria. The license is issued by the states. Not the federal government. The 10th amendment clearly states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." |
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Marriage is a religious practice and government should not be in it. Government wants to be involved so they can tax certain things involve with marriage. Now if something comes up for a vote by the people, then it is law and not even the courts has a right to over turn the will of the people. When the people vote, not politicians, which is the highest authority in the land. Are highest rules, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights can only be change by the people. Sure it has to pass congress first but only when 2/3, if I remember correctly, votes one way then that way becomes law. Marriage is not a right in our country but a privilege. I don’t recall marriage being in the Constitution. i'm not for gay marriage by any means, but technically, i think that gay marriage could be considered in the constitution, under the pursuit of happiness clause... Its not in the constitution its in the declaration of independence. Marriage is NOT a right. It is a legal designation that must be met by certain criteria. The license is issued by the states. Not the federal government. The 10th amendment clearly states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." thanx for the correction, but either way, the declaration of independence is our basic, fundamental rights as citizens of the states... |
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This should be up to the states. |
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This should be up to the states. i agree... thats what i don't like about this, cali already voted no, and they can't accept that... |
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http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/exclusive-willie-nelson-same-sex-marriage
EXCLUSIVE: Willie Nelson on same-sex marriage "I'd never marry a guy I didn't like," says the man who once covered “Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other." by Andy Langer Thu March 28, 2013 8:45 am Willie Nelson loves love. "Love is what I live on. Love is what keeps me going," he wrote in his 2006 book The Tao Of Willie. And Wednesday night, in an interview in Austin on his tour bus, Willie said he believes love doesn't discriminate, "and it shouldn't be discriminated against." Nelson has been watching the Supreme Court arguments over same-sex marriage and the Defense of Marriage Act, the federal law defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. "[Gay people] should be just as miserable as the rest of us," quipped Nelson, before giving a more nuanced explanation of what he says has been a life-long, unwavering belief that all people deserve equal protection under the law. After the interview, and just before heading into Austin's ACL Live at the Moody Theater to play a fundraiser for the Darrell K Royal Research Fund for Alzheimer’s Disease, Nelson posed for a Texas Monthly photographer with a series of signs created by the Austin-based design agency Helms Workshop and printed by Austin's East End Ink. The first is a straightforward reproduction of the pink equal sign—the logo of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign—that has gone viral on Facebook and Twitter over the past few days. Helms also designed two Willie-specific variations on the image, one with his trademark braids and another with a pair of marijuana cigarettes. Both images are available for download below for use as avatars on your Facebook or Twitter account. Or whatever else you want to do with them. It’s a free country, you know. Texas Monthly: You're closely following the Supreme Court's consideration of gay rights and same-sex marriage. Willie Nelson: I am. And it's ridiculous to me that this is something we're having a conversation about this in this day and age. I thought it was something that was settled a long time ago. TM: Cleary not. WN: Clearly not. And obviously, even the Supreme Court doesn't know what to do about it. They say, 'Don't ask me. Ask somebody else.' They don't want to get in the middle of the states on it. And what are they going to do, come in and override states that have said it's okay? It's a mess. TM: With same-sex marriage legal in some states and not in others, equality means different things different places. WN: For same-sex couples, taxes are different, benefits are different, survivor benefits are different. It's crazy. TM: You've been a supporter of LBGT issues over the years. Outspoken even. WN: I never had a problem with any of it. I've known straight and gay people all my life. I can't tell the difference. People are people where I came from. TM: But where you came from was small town Texas in the thirties and forties. Was Abbott more forward-thinking than we give it credit for? WN: We were a lot like New York City. [laughs] With shorter buildings. TM: But especially for a Texan, and more so, a Texan playing country music, you came around to this idea relatively early on. WN: It never came up. Gay or straight? Married, not married? It was never a question. And now there's fussin', fightin', and arguin' over it? Let's get off that and talk about guns. TM: For better or worse, you've also grown into a reputation as something of an authority on marriage itself. WN: I've been there and back a few times. It's not perfect, so why should we expect it to be perfect for everybody? TM: But to be clear, you think everybody should be able to get married? WN: Absolutely. I never thought of marriage as something only for men and women. But I'd never marry a guy I didn't like. TM: A lot of people think this battle echoes the fight for civil rights in the sixties. WN: It does. It's about human rights. As humanity, we've come through so many problems from the beginning to here. I guess it finally had to come around to this. This is just another situation, another problem. We'll work it out and move on. TM: And what do you think they'll say when they look back on this? WN: We'll look back and say it was crazy that we ever even argued about this. |
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i don't trust anything the famous singers/actors/athletes have to say about gay marriage, because if they say they don't agree with it, the media shuns them. they can't afford to have a personal opinion, if they wanna keep doing what they are doing...
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i don't trust anything the famous singers/actors/athletes have to say about gay marriage, because if they say they don't agree with it, the media shuns them. they can't afford to have a personal opinion, if they wanna keep doing what they are doing... I disagree, because even if they speak out for gay marriage, those fans who are against it could shun them. So, I respect them for speaking out against something they feel is important at the risk of losing fans. |
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i don't trust anything the famous singers/actors/athletes have to say about gay marriage, because if they say they don't agree with it, the media shuns them. they can't afford to have a personal opinion, if they wanna keep doing what they are doing... I disagree, because even if they speak out for gay marriage, those fans who are against it could shun them. So, I respect them for speaking out against something they feel is important at the risk of losing fans. really? name one thats been shunned by speaking for gay marriage... |
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i don't trust anything the famous singers/actors/athletes have to say about gay marriage, because if they say they don't agree with it, the media shuns them. they can't afford to have a personal opinion, if they wanna keep doing what they are doing... I disagree, because even if they speak out for gay marriage, those fans who are against it could shun them. So, I respect them for speaking out against something they feel is important at the risk of losing fans. really? name one thats been shunned by speaking for gay marriage... I was just thinking back when singers have spoken out against what their fans think. The gay marriage thing is pretty recent, so we'll have to see if that actually happens. I don't have an example for you right now. I mean, we see things happening like when Ellen Degeneres was named spokesperson for JC Penny and people got completely outraged over that. Imagine what could happen if celebrities started speaking out for gay marriage? |
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http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/exclusive-willie-nelson-same-sex-marriage EXCLUSIVE: Willie Nelson on same-sex marriage "I'd never marry a guy I didn't like," says the man who once covered “Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other." by Andy Langer Thu March 28, 2013 8:45 am Willie Nelson loves love. "Love is what I live on. Love is what keeps me going," he wrote in his 2006 book The Tao Of Willie. And Wednesday night, in an interview in Austin on his tour bus, Willie said he believes love doesn't discriminate, "and it shouldn't be discriminated against." Nelson has been watching the Supreme Court arguments over same-sex marriage and the Defense of Marriage Act, the federal law defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. "[Gay people] should be just as miserable as the rest of us," quipped Nelson, before giving a more nuanced explanation of what he says has been a life-long, unwavering belief that all people deserve equal protection under the law. After the interview, and just before heading into Austin's ACL Live at the Moody Theater to play a fundraiser for the Darrell K Royal Research Fund for Alzheimer’s Disease, Nelson posed for a Texas Monthly photographer with a series of signs created by the Austin-based design agency Helms Workshop and printed by Austin's East End Ink. The first is a straightforward reproduction of the pink equal sign—the logo of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign—that has gone viral on Facebook and Twitter over the past few days. Helms also designed two Willie-specific variations on the image, one with his trademark braids and another with a pair of marijuana cigarettes. Both images are available for download below for use as avatars on your Facebook or Twitter account. Or whatever else you want to do with them. It’s a free country, you know. Texas Monthly: You're closely following the Supreme Court's consideration of gay rights and same-sex marriage. Willie Nelson: I am. And it's ridiculous to me that this is something we're having a conversation about this in this day and age. I thought it was something that was settled a long time ago. TM: Cleary not. WN: Clearly not. And obviously, even the Supreme Court doesn't know what to do about it. They say, 'Don't ask me. Ask somebody else.' They don't want to get in the middle of the states on it. And what are they going to do, come in and override states that have said it's okay? It's a mess. TM: With same-sex marriage legal in some states and not in others, equality means different things different places. WN: For same-sex couples, taxes are different, benefits are different, survivor benefits are different. It's crazy. TM: You've been a supporter of LBGT issues over the years. Outspoken even. WN: I never had a problem with any of it. I've known straight and gay people all my life. I can't tell the difference. People are people where I came from. TM: But where you came from was small town Texas in the thirties and forties. Was Abbott more forward-thinking than we give it credit for? WN: We were a lot like New York City. [laughs] With shorter buildings. TM: But especially for a Texan, and more so, a Texan playing country music, you came around to this idea relatively early on. WN: It never came up. Gay or straight? Married, not married? It was never a question. And now there's fussin', fightin', and arguin' over it? Let's get off that and talk about guns. TM: For better or worse, you've also grown into a reputation as something of an authority on marriage itself. WN: I've been there and back a few times. It's not perfect, so why should we expect it to be perfect for everybody? TM: But to be clear, you think everybody should be able to get married? WN: Absolutely. I never thought of marriage as something only for men and women. But I'd never marry a guy I didn't like. TM: A lot of people think this battle echoes the fight for civil rights in the sixties. WN: It does. It's about human rights. As humanity, we've come through so many problems from the beginning to here. I guess it finally had to come around to this. This is just another situation, another problem. We'll work it out and move on. TM: And what do you think they'll say when they look back on this? WN: We'll look back and say it was crazy that we ever even argued about this. loving someone, having consentual sex with someone is a HUMAN RIGHT having the state validate, certify, encourage, promote, reward your choice of love or sex is not a HUMAN RIGHT<,, |
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http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/exclusive-willie-nelson-same-sex-marriage EXCLUSIVE: Willie Nelson on same-sex marriage "I'd never marry a guy I didn't like," says the man who once covered “Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other." by Andy Langer Thu March 28, 2013 8:45 am Willie Nelson loves love. "Love is what I live on. Love is what keeps me going," he wrote in his 2006 book The Tao Of Willie. And Wednesday night, in an interview in Austin on his tour bus, Willie said he believes love doesn't discriminate, "and it shouldn't be discriminated against." Nelson has been watching the Supreme Court arguments over same-sex marriage and the Defense of Marriage Act, the federal law defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. "[Gay people] should be just as miserable as the rest of us," quipped Nelson, before giving a more nuanced explanation of what he says has been a life-long, unwavering belief that all people deserve equal protection under the law. After the interview, and just before heading into Austin's ACL Live at the Moody Theater to play a fundraiser for the Darrell K Royal Research Fund for Alzheimer’s Disease, Nelson posed for a Texas Monthly photographer with a series of signs created by the Austin-based design agency Helms Workshop and printed by Austin's East End Ink. The first is a straightforward reproduction of the pink equal sign—the logo of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign—that has gone viral on Facebook and Twitter over the past few days. Helms also designed two Willie-specific variations on the image, one with his trademark braids and another with a pair of marijuana cigarettes. Both images are available for download below for use as avatars on your Facebook or Twitter account. Or whatever else you want to do with them. It’s a free country, you know. Texas Monthly: You're closely following the Supreme Court's consideration of gay rights and same-sex marriage. Willie Nelson: I am. And it's ridiculous to me that this is something we're having a conversation about this in this day and age. I thought it was something that was settled a long time ago. TM: Cleary not. WN: Clearly not. And obviously, even the Supreme Court doesn't know what to do about it. They say, 'Don't ask me. Ask somebody else.' They don't want to get in the middle of the states on it. And what are they going to do, come in and override states that have said it's okay? It's a mess. TM: With same-sex marriage legal in some states and not in others, equality means different things different places. WN: For same-sex couples, taxes are different, benefits are different, survivor benefits are different. It's crazy. TM: You've been a supporter of LBGT issues over the years. Outspoken even. WN: I never had a problem with any of it. I've known straight and gay people all my life. I can't tell the difference. People are people where I came from. TM: But where you came from was small town Texas in the thirties and forties. Was Abbott more forward-thinking than we give it credit for? WN: We were a lot like New York City. [laughs] With shorter buildings. TM: But especially for a Texan, and more so, a Texan playing country music, you came around to this idea relatively early on. WN: It never came up. Gay or straight? Married, not married? It was never a question. And now there's fussin', fightin', and arguin' over it? Let's get off that and talk about guns. TM: For better or worse, you've also grown into a reputation as something of an authority on marriage itself. WN: I've been there and back a few times. It's not perfect, so why should we expect it to be perfect for everybody? TM: But to be clear, you think everybody should be able to get married? WN: Absolutely. I never thought of marriage as something only for men and women. But I'd never marry a guy I didn't like. TM: A lot of people think this battle echoes the fight for civil rights in the sixties. WN: It does. It's about human rights. As humanity, we've come through so many problems from the beginning to here. I guess it finally had to come around to this. This is just another situation, another problem. We'll work it out and move on. TM: And what do you think they'll say when they look back on this? WN: We'll look back and say it was crazy that we ever even argued about this. loving someone, having consentual sex with someone is a HUMAN RIGHT having the state validate, certify, encourage, promote, reward your choice of love or sex is not a HUMAN RIGHT<,, |
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love and sex arent the same
the RACE that someone assigned me before my birth and the lifestyle and behaviors someone else CHOOSES in pre pubescence arent the same nor are they the same struggle,,, |
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http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/exclusive-willie-nelson-same-sex-marriage EXCLUSIVE: Willie Nelson on same-sex marriage "I'd never marry a guy I didn't like," says the man who once covered “Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other." by Andy Langer Thu March 28, 2013 8:45 am Willie Nelson loves love. "Love is what I live on. Love is what keeps me going," he wrote in his 2006 book The Tao Of Willie. And Wednesday night, in an interview in Austin on his tour bus, Willie said he believes love doesn't discriminate, "and it shouldn't be discriminated against." Nelson has been watching the Supreme Court arguments over same-sex marriage and the Defense of Marriage Act, the federal law defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. "[Gay people] should be just as miserable as the rest of us," quipped Nelson, before giving a more nuanced explanation of what he says has been a life-long, unwavering belief that all people deserve equal protection under the law. After the interview, and just before heading into Austin's ACL Live at the Moody Theater to play a fundraiser for the Darrell K Royal Research Fund for Alzheimer’s Disease, Nelson posed for a Texas Monthly photographer with a series of signs created by the Austin-based design agency Helms Workshop and printed by Austin's East End Ink. The first is a straightforward reproduction of the pink equal sign—the logo of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender advocacy group the Human Rights Campaign—that has gone viral on Facebook and Twitter over the past few days. Helms also designed two Willie-specific variations on the image, one with his trademark braids and another with a pair of marijuana cigarettes. Both images are available for download below for use as avatars on your Facebook or Twitter account. Or whatever else you want to do with them. It’s a free country, you know. Texas Monthly: You're closely following the Supreme Court's consideration of gay rights and same-sex marriage. Willie Nelson: I am. And it's ridiculous to me that this is something we're having a conversation about this in this day and age. I thought it was something that was settled a long time ago. TM: Cleary not. WN: Clearly not. And obviously, even the Supreme Court doesn't know what to do about it. They say, 'Don't ask me. Ask somebody else.' They don't want to get in the middle of the states on it. And what are they going to do, come in and override states that have said it's okay? It's a mess. TM: With same-sex marriage legal in some states and not in others, equality means different things different places. WN: For same-sex couples, taxes are different, benefits are different, survivor benefits are different. It's crazy. TM: You've been a supporter of LBGT issues over the years. Outspoken even. WN: I never had a problem with any of it. I've known straight and gay people all my life. I can't tell the difference. People are people where I came from. TM: But where you came from was small town Texas in the thirties and forties. Was Abbott more forward-thinking than we give it credit for? WN: We were a lot like New York City. [laughs] With shorter buildings. TM: But especially for a Texan, and more so, a Texan playing country music, you came around to this idea relatively early on. WN: It never came up. Gay or straight? Married, not married? It was never a question. And now there's fussin', fightin', and arguin' over it? Let's get off that and talk about guns. TM: For better or worse, you've also grown into a reputation as something of an authority on marriage itself. WN: I've been there and back a few times. It's not perfect, so why should we expect it to be perfect for everybody? TM: But to be clear, you think everybody should be able to get married? WN: Absolutely. I never thought of marriage as something only for men and women. But I'd never marry a guy I didn't like. TM: A lot of people think this battle echoes the fight for civil rights in the sixties. WN: It does. It's about human rights. As humanity, we've come through so many problems from the beginning to here. I guess it finally had to come around to this. This is just another situation, another problem. We'll work it out and move on. TM: And what do you think they'll say when they look back on this? WN: We'll look back and say it was crazy that we ever even argued about this. loving someone, having consentual sex with someone is a HUMAN RIGHT having the state validate, certify, encourage, promote, reward your choice of love or sex is not a HUMAN RIGHT<,, This is true, but if heterosexuals can be validated and certified as being a legal couple/partnership, then why not Gays? Why should they be denied this same status? As the video asks, What harm does Gay marriage do to heterosexuals? There is no valid reason to prohibit gay marriage. |
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