I'm glad you wrote this. It's the age old, men think with their ****s! And a man above commented that without the physical, it's mearly a friendship... Surely that is all that it should be to begin with. Dating to many women, more than men, is about finding commitment, someone to settle down with and enjoy all that a developing relationship brings.... Not jumping unto bed for new notches. Personally, for the physical, there has to be the other aspects, of the friendship. Blah blah, I will hush now! <3

How's that any different from what I said?

Maybe this is some American thing but I don't know anyone that calls it a "relationship", rather than a friendship, unless they do mean what I said. Also, it isn't just men that think like that. I'm sure that there are plenty of men that have gone out with a woman or had a friendship with one who have made assumptions about it being a "relationship" just to have her tell them that it is not and that they were only dating or that she was only being friendly. At what point does it become a relationship and who decides this?

I expect to be surprised. Why do I say that? Cause that is how a relationship begins. You simply become surprised that you met a person who "blows you away". We all want honesty, respect, understanding, love, etc. But in order to get that one needs to be surprised when they meet someone.

I expect my partner in crime to ...

Oh, wait. You are referring to another kind of partner.

Never mind.

4yr but not been in one going on 7yr

I let my do as she likes.and don't do the same

I expect to be treated with common courtesy, just as they should expect from me. Anything else to the good are added bonuses.

I don't ever expect much. As in "No Pressure". The last thing I want, is him breaking into a sweat, just because he wants to please me. I think this is why I like to have a good laugh when dating someone. I'm not wanting a date filled with tension, pier pressure, or worry.

At first, I just expect and attraction to draw me in, and that probably includes some similarity in thinking, interests and a sense of passion.

Later, I have a lot of expectations for something to be extra ordinary.

Taking responsibility for own happiness, making good with your words with action, able to admit mistakes, honesty, respectful, listening, showing affection, loyalty, able to give and have some space, able to express feelings, be encouraging, forgiving, able to laugh and not so serious all the time, supportive, making time for us, communicating, all while being real and yourself or course. I am not looking to change someone into what seems ideal. Nor do i want that for myself.

I agre.

I feel this way as well in that regard. But I find respect and courtesy sometimes seem to be more of a struggle for a great majority instead of commonplace. Ah well, it just makes it that much more pleasant when you do run across it.

I agree with Cynderella and Kartagane about the courtesy thing. Don't get me wrong, it's not like I vision some guy dressed up in a medieval sword-fighter costume, saying Shakespeare stuff to me. I mean I want to be treated POLITELY, but that is hard to come by, these days.

But with who exactly?

Why did you have to say that AFTER I got into this armor?

It chafes so badly!

Very true, which is probably why so many are here posting in, "Where are all the nice men/women threads".

What HAS become of courtesy, respect and manners? I suppose we could simply narrow that down to one word...where's the CLASS?

Which is rather hypocritical when you think about it, since a large majority of those people ignore basic respect and courtesy and then have the audacity to demand it on some level. It is one reason those posts are somewhat frowned upon here on some levels.

Using your namesakes essence, common courtesy is becoming unto the fairytale and civility the glass slipper.

Good point Kart!

My standard response to those threads..."they're out there", because "you might not know one if they bit you in the azz" would probably not be very courteous.



Perfect!

You obviously didn't recieve the memo.

Relationships begin simple and develop from there. Physical intimacy should happen when a relationship is well developed. Sex doesn't cause a close relationship. But a close relationship will usually lead to the physical side of intimacy.

Right, thanks for the sex education lesson.

I think that most adults do mean sexual relationship when they use the term though.

BTW, when you're saying here when people should have sex, are you trying to tell other people what they should and should not do? I thought that the point of this thread was just for us to say as individuals what we expect in a relationship.