If my aunt had nuts...

She would be my uncle

You can't see if you have been nominated. I mean sure click on the "Moderate" button and your topic shows up. But that is a given. I mean every new topic has the potential of being put on the chopping block.

ah...that's good.

of course, if you're thread is there for over three minutes, you KNOW it's been nominated.

Fine... Its totally not just you, I've seen sooo many unnecessary almost deleted.. and deleted posts its crazy.
Something needs to be done about it.

Folks,

I think there are still a LOT of misconceptions about the moderation feature.

First, VERY FEW topics get deleted at all. We've been keeping a tally, and the number of topics that get deleted is less than 3% - that's 3 topics out of 100.

Of that 3%, almost 2% are because of a duplicate topic issue (the poster posted the same topic twice), or because the topic was placed in the wrong forum.

It's the wrong forum deletions that seem to be causing the most angst. The topic itself is totally fine, but it's in the wrong spot. Michael's topic tonight was an example of that. He should have placed it in the Chit Chat forum, but having been away from the site for a while, I don't think he even knew that that forum existed.

Now, on the flip side, there are a lot of topics that, without the deletion system, would have been up for much much longer than they should have. We had a troll on the other night, for example, that was hurling racial slurs left and right. The deletion system got rid of his topics almost immediately. If instead the topic could only be deleted by Vanchau or myself, it would have been up for hours and caused a lot more damage, hurt feelings, etc.

The solution we're working on is to allow a "Move topic" option which will allow you to nominate a topic to be moved. The voting will work in the same way as deletion. It's the misplaced topics that seem to be causing the most angst, and I think offering a move option will eliminate all of that.

It's also very important to note that just because a topic that is fine gets nominated for deletion doesn't mean the system is not working. And even if that topic gets a lot of votes for deletion doesn't mean the system is not working. The deletion system is designed to let people vote incorrectly, because it takes a super-majority of people to actually delete a topic.

It's also important to note that Vanchau and I review all the deleted topics and reverse any decisions we disagree with. In total, we've reversed perhaps 4-5 decisions since the system was put in place. So overall, the vast majority of deletions were ones that we agreed with. And any users that are consistently voting incorrectly have had their moderation privileges revoked.

I just wanted to make sure everyone had the full information on the deletion system before making judgments.

Thanks,
Mike

Thanks Mike,
Then as soon as possible that move option needs to be put into effect, Because the reason for deletion doesn't change that it was (really for no reason) so that makes it even worse & a more hostile enviroment...
For one thing when a person makes a thread most of the time it's when they have time to be here & when it's on their mind at the time or need answers, not a day or so later when you guys get in & have time to revue the complaint (if there was one filed) then repost it in the right area. It's a day late & a dollar shot by then..
Then on the matter of the TROLL! So people were able to vote to delete any threads he made, What stopped him from attacking people in other threads???

Too many good people leaving

I think we would have fewer hurt feelings if more people commented on their vote and why. Without any explanation, people tend to assume the worst. If there is disagreement, and people comment in the thread, then you know who you can private-mail for a discussion - and then each has a chance to learn other people's points of view.

I hope everyone here who feels the system is being abused makes comments in the threads they question. If I have doubts, I don't vote, and I think many others do the same thing. Therefore, if you comment right away this will slow down the moderation, and give more time for discussion.

That's a good Idea...

The other night I made a thread about cursed prayers, I didn't see the vote box on it..

I don't understand why anyone would delete a thread from Michael. I know I didn't even get to see it...and then "POOF" it was gone. I don't ever click to delete unless it is truly offensive to me. I wish there was a way for it to be better controlled.

I refused to vote to delete any thread. If feel that strongly, then I think that I will notify the moderators instead.

i think that delete voters

and save voters should be acknowledged

for the work that they do here

each and every time they vote


kinda like hey they are really active members cool

i use the moderation feature as much as possible but i very rarely vote to delete. i think it is important to keep the threads as organized as possible so that it is easier to navigate.

i think the "move topic" addition would be a good addition.