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Topic: A Question for the Men
TexasScoundrel's photo
Fri 02/22/13 01:55 PM
My thoughts are that men and women are equal. I wouldn't stick my nose into a man's relationship with his woman and I wouldn't get between a woman and her man either. Assuming everyone involved are adults, it's no one's business.

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Fri 02/22/13 02:10 PM
Forget your past and move on with your life. The beautiful ones are not yet born so there are still good guys out there who will never abuse good women. Never use your past to judge your present.

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Sat 02/23/13 07:13 AM

This is what should happen to abusive men.

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Sat 02/23/13 07:31 AM



This is what should happen to abusive men.


what should happen to this abusive woman in the pic?
Sign her up for MMA. :tongue:

It has been a while since I watch this series and forgot what the doc did to make her so mad.

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Sat 02/23/13 08:38 AM
Violence has been around as long as sex has it is part of nature. Sex might be the root to a lot of violence. How many guys have gotten into fights over girls and girls fight over guys. Even in the animal kingdom you see to male lions fighting over a female.

Certain type of violence is acceptable in our culture like football, MMA and wrestling, where all combating sides have chosen to be involved. Things like abuse of animals, women and children are not accepted.

beaststud's photo
Sat 02/23/13 01:52 PM
I've never met anyone with these type of problems

xxL4LUNCHBOX's photo
Sat 02/23/13 02:26 PM
lot of skeletons out there .no matter were you look
as for men wont understand a womans view . thats just sexist
but being through both sides of the coin ,ive witnessed and took action.
and am glad to call myself a survivor of such actions .to let it phase me or scar me ,would mean the barstewards won .
its better to get the last laugh it truly lasts longest..happy

takes a lot of self control when you know a shovel is cheaper than a hitman :smile:

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Mon 02/25/13 09:59 AM

lot of skeletons out there .no matter were you look
as for men wont understand a womans view . thats just sexist
but being through both sides of the coin ,ive witnessed and took action.
and am glad to call myself a survivor of such actions .to let it phase me or scar me ,would mean the barstewards won .
its better to get the last laugh it truly lasts longest..happy

takes a lot of self control when you know a shovel is cheaper than a hitman :smile:
Just remind the man that you keep the kitchen knives sharpen at all times.

TexasScoundrel's photo
Mon 02/25/13 03:06 PM


When I look around, I see men being bullied by verbally abusive women everywhere. They walk around, as if in a daze, doing whatever they're told. Is this the fault of the women? Of course not. It's the men that have no backbone in these relationships. And I'd never butt my nose into their relationships. Hey, maybe it's what gets them off. It takes all kinds to make a world.


When someone is being abused, it's their fault, rather than the fault of the one doing the abusing?


Anyone has to power to leave unless their being held hostage. I've left more than one verbally abusive woman in my life. Abusers continue to abuse other because it gets results for them. They won't stop as long as others put up with it.

How many wife beaters lose their cool and beat up their boss? None. Do you know why? Because their boss wouldn't put up with it.

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Mon 02/25/13 07:44 PM
I may not be a woman and I've never been physically abused by one but I know what it's like to be asaulted by a psycho with severe anger problems.

In a lot of these abuse cases what happens is that they have issues that they haven't really dealt with and they get angry and abuse their partner. Then they say that they are sorry and that they will never do it again and so it goes on. Many abusers will actually try to get help because they do hate themselves because of what they are doing and perhaps they also hate themselves for some other reason that is the underlying problem.

So yeah, I'm a man but I do think that I understand why someone would stay in an abusive relationship with someone that they loved that was saying that they were going to change or wanted to. These people need professional help though and are unlikely to change their behaviour otherwise, so if they aren't prepared to get help with anger management and therepy you should just get the hell out of there I would say, even if it means staying in a refuge or homeless hostel for a while.

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Mon 02/25/13 08:31 PM






Guys really worry about women who decide to date women?


but didn't you say gays were born that way???
looks like i was right all along....





Who says they weren't born that way and trying out guys? Sounds like they were bi.


laugh laugh laugh thats not what i read...


If they're dating both men and women, perhaps they're bi. Or, perhaps they're lesbian and finally came out? Who knows.
My friend called herself polysexual but my co-workers friends mother use to only date men but she kept choosing the jerks. She decided to date women to get away from abusive men.


a person does not have to date women to get away from abusive men. Simply choosing nonabusive men will solve that issue. Gender orientation really is not a choice. I am convinced of that having had several gay friends of both sexes in my lifetime. But that does not preclude a proclivity some have to "experiment." Whether these experiments hurt anyone else or not is often not considered when someone is in that kind of egotistical state where the need to experiment is more important than the consequences of the experiments (in addition to other moral issues).

Your friend clearly had difficulty identifying and choosing well her hetero partners. Who says she'll not choose abusive females? Ahh, yes that could happen.

The problem lies within her choices. She sounds like a bit of a toxic who personally I 'd stay away from. She sounds like someone who could benefit from some therapy to learn about herself and how to make constructive choices. (I mean that sincerely not in a trite judgmental way).

Poor choices, repeating problems identifying appropriate partners, games with gender roles. Why would one want to be involved? sounds like drama I'd want to be 5000 miles away from......probably not going to be the most popular answer on the boards

but then I am known for that

but it may be the best & truest answer on the boards in terms of the sincerity of friendship

namaste, metalshadow :)

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Mon 02/25/13 08:32 PM

I've never met anyone with these type of problems
:thumbsup:

TexasScoundrel's photo
Tue 02/26/13 12:38 AM

I may not be a woman and I've never been physically abused by one but I know what it's like to be asaulted by a psycho with severe anger problems.

In a lot of these abuse cases what happens is that they have issues that they haven't really dealt with and they get angry and abuse their partner. Then they say that they are sorry and that they will never do it again and so it goes on. Many abusers will actually try to get help because they do hate themselves because of what they are doing and perhaps they also hate themselves for some other reason that is the underlying problem.

So yeah, I'm a man but I do think that I understand why someone would stay in an abusive relationship with someone that they loved that was saying that they were going to change or wanted to. These people need professional help though and are unlikely to change their behaviour otherwise, so if they aren't prepared to get help with anger management and therepy you should just get the hell out of there I would say, even if it means staying in a refuge or homeless hostel for a while.


If you pet a dog and it bites you, do you try to pet that dog again? I would not any time soon.

They want to change? Fine. Just do it away from me. Get help and we'll talk again in a year.

TawtStrat's photo
Tue 02/26/13 03:56 AM


I may not be a woman and I've never been physically abused by one but I know what it's like to be asaulted by a psycho with severe anger problems.

In a lot of these abuse cases what happens is that they have issues that they haven't really dealt with and they get angry and abuse their partner. Then they say that they are sorry and that they will never do it again and so it goes on. Many abusers will actually try to get help because they do hate themselves because of what they are doing and perhaps they also hate themselves for some other reason that is the underlying problem.

So yeah, I'm a man but I do think that I understand why someone would stay in an abusive relationship with someone that they loved that was saying that they were going to change or wanted to. These people need professional help though and are unlikely to change their behaviour otherwise, so if they aren't prepared to get help with anger management and therepy you should just get the hell out of there I would say, even if it means staying in a refuge or homeless hostel for a while.


If you pet a dog and it bites you, do you try to pet that dog again? I would not any time soon.

They want to change? Fine. Just do it away from me. Get help and we'll talk again in a year.


I agree with you and like I said, I have had personal experience with someone that is close to me that has serious issues and anger problems. I have had a lot of verbal abuse from him and he is dangerous and has asaulted me.

I have tried to give him help and support over the years but it's always the same and we get on for a while until something I say sets him off. He's manipulative and won't take responsibility for himself and always blames other people and plays the victim.

It is impossible to help someone that won't take any personal criticism from you without losing his temper and I just have to keep walking away and saying that I won't have anything to do with him until he gets himself sorted out. I'm completely sick of it but he is somebody that's close to me and other people are involved that I do have sympathy with and have taken a lot of crap from him as well.

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Tue 02/26/13 08:37 AM







Guys really worry about women who decide to date women?


but didn't you say gays were born that way???
looks like i was right all along....





Who says they weren't born that way and trying out guys? Sounds like they were bi.


laugh laugh laugh thats not what i read...


If they're dating both men and women, perhaps they're bi. Or, perhaps they're lesbian and finally came out? Who knows.
My friend called herself polysexual but my co-workers friends mother use to only date men but she kept choosing the jerks. She decided to date women to get away from abusive men.


a person does not have to date women to get away from abusive men. Simply choosing nonabusive men will solve that issue. Gender orientation really is not a choice. I am convinced of that having had several gay friends of both sexes in my lifetime. But that does not preclude a proclivity some have to "experiment." Whether these experiments hurt anyone else or not is often not considered when someone is in that kind of egotistical state where the need to experiment is more important than the consequences of the experiments (in addition to other moral issues).

Your friend clearly had difficulty identifying and choosing well her hetero partners. Who says she'll not choose abusive females? Ahh, yes that could happen.

The problem lies within her choices. She sounds like a bit of a toxic who personally I 'd stay away from. She sounds like someone who could benefit from some therapy to learn about herself and how to make constructive choices. (I mean that sincerely not in a trite judgmental way).

Poor choices, repeating problems identifying appropriate partners, games with gender roles. Why would one want to be involved? sounds like drama I'd want to be 5000 miles away from......probably not going to be the most popular answer on the boards

but then I am known for that

but it may be the best & truest answer on the boards in terms of the sincerity of friendship

namaste, metalshadow :)
I tried talking to her about jumping from one gender to another will not solve her problem. But if she chooses to stop dating men and start dating women, that is her choice. I may not agree with it or the reason behind it but it is still her life. Now I have seen or heard fro her in like four years. I do believe seeking a therapist that will actually talk and focus on the problem would be the best help, but now days many are just pill pushers.

Don’t tell me gender orientation is not a choice. To have free will means one can choose. I’ve heard from people that chose to be gay cause it was fun doing something taboo. I’ve listen to some gays that chose to seek therapy to become straight. Some people chose to have a gender change. People even choose to end their life.

Free will is all about the ability to choose. If a person cannot choose then they have no free will. At this very moment I could choose to stop chasing women and start chasing men. I have change the type of women I prefer. Some women I use to not look at I now do, why because I choose to change. We do thing things we do because it is our choice. Yea, we are born knowing how to breathe and you can say we are born that way as a reason why we do it. Yet still it is our choice if we decide not to breath anymore.

I choose to believe we are free willed beings and not a mindless robot preprogram to fallow a certain path.

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Sat 03/02/13 09:06 AM
People do what you let them do...there's always red flags..trick is to recognize them...I think friend was always gay...tired of struggling with it...if women treated me badly..id move on..I certainly wouldn't go out an start dating men!...lol

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Sun 03/03/13 02:27 PM
Give to your local spousal abuse clinic or chapter!
I was a crisis line intervention operator for a while, and women sometimes feel trapped, and that they have no where to go.
Almost all communities have a safe house and counseling available, but they need funds!

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Tue 03/05/13 04:07 AM
No. We all have to take responsibility for the choices we make. There are also men who have been abused and while they won't turn to other men,they do become bitter.

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