Topic: Ladies, What Are You Telling Men?
mscherbear's photo
Mon 02/11/13 11:08 AM


What I'm asking is;
If a woman knows cutting her hair short will make her less attractive to men (in general), is she saying no to men by cutting her hair? Is she making a conscious effort to become less attractive?

If a man says really stupid things, is he actually
making an effort to be less attractive to women?


rofl rofl rofl :thumbsup:

navygirl's photo
Mon 02/11/13 11:27 AM


What I'm asking is;
If a woman knows cutting her hair short will make her less attractive to men (in general), is she saying no to men by cutting her hair? Is she making a conscious effort to become less attractive?

If a man says really stupid things, is he actually
making an effort to be less attractive to women?


Oh; this is priceless. laugh

navygirl's photo
Mon 02/11/13 11:30 AM

We've covered this already. YOu may find it unattractive, but clearly many other men don't. So, I don't see that women cutting their hair is making them unattractive to men. Perhaps to you, but to all men? No, of course not. So no, I don't think women making this change are saying no to men in general. Just those who specifically don't find short hair attractive, like you.


Alright then, let's try making it more personal.

A woman is married to a man. She knows he is very fond of her long hair. But, she decides to cut it off anyway. She knows this will make her less attractive to him. So, is this a conscious effort on her part to become less attractive in his eyes?


It depends on why the woman is cutting her hair but I wouldn't think she is doing this to make her less attractive. If he loves her; he will accept her decision to cut her hair and see the beauty in her and not her hair.

shortfire8521's photo
Mon 02/11/13 01:53 PM
Not that it matters in the least but I would like to set the record straight.

I have no illnesses or diseases. I am healthy as a horse. My family loses their hair. My mother, her mother, her mother before her and every one of my uncles. Other than the hair loss (and my obvious unattractiveness according to some), there is not a thing wrong with me.

navygirl's photo
Mon 02/11/13 03:12 PM

Not that it matters in the least but I would like to set the record straight.

I have no illnesses or diseases. I am healthy as a horse. My family loses their hair. My mother, her mother, her mother before her and every one of my uncles. Other than the hair loss (and my obvious unattractiveness according to some), there is not a thing wrong with me.


Exactly; sometimes it is genetics. My hair gets very brittle and lots of split ends when I grow it long. In my case; I am probably lacking in vitamins but we all do in one way or another. Like you I am very healthy too. :thumbsup:

Toodygirl5's photo
Mon 02/11/13 03:20 PM

Women know that men generally find long hair attractive on a woman. Yet, many women cut their hair short. Why? Is it a conscious choice on your part to become less attractive? Do you think looking good is just too much work and not worth the payoff?


I look nice for my age, and the men I have dated are not looking at my hair. bigsmile

madmim's photo
Mon 02/11/13 04:23 PM

Women know that men generally find long hair attractive on a woman. Yet, many women cut their hair short. Why? Is it a conscious choice on your part to become less attractive? Do you think looking good is just too much work and not worth the payoff?



I actually do have incredibly thick hair and I keep it short for several reasons:
1. thick hair when long is incredibly heavy and causes headaches
2. It's hot beyond belief in the summer
3. It is more expensive to style long thick hair (they will charge you double because it's more work for them)
4. As a woman ages and her face thins out, long hair (whether thick or thin)tends to pull the observer's eyes down elongated the woman's face. In short it can make her look older than if she cut it shorter.

Is it a conscious decision on my part to become less attractive?
No...LOL
I don't think any woman consciously decides "Hey I want to look as hideous as possibe"
I still look good, whether my hair is long & wavy, short and curly, mid-length and straight, or...wait for it....cut "boy short" to my head. I may not be attractive to ALL men, but like someone said before I wouldn't be interested in a man who judged me on my hair style only.

Do I think looking good is just too much work and not worth the payoff?
Payoff? What payoff?
Oh wait, do you mean the "payoff" of finally nabbing a MAN? The payoff that includes cooking for another person? Having to do someone else's laundry? Paying more bills? Having to stroke his ego, listen to his complaints, and satisfy him in bed?

No...I don't "think looking good is too much work", however I do think the "payoff" is too much work laugh I personally do not fix my hair, my clothes, my make-up so that a man will find me attractive...I do it to make myself feel good. I don't think any person can be truely happy if they're always trying to please someone else.

Traumer's photo
Mon 02/11/13 04:40 PM


some women actaully look very nice with shorter hair and like to style it. Personally I think short hair is too high maintenance.

but most of us have outgrown the gene evolution that says we must look nice for men. We look nice for ourselves

so it's about time that men outgrow the likes long hair gene seems, once againm a little high school....jmho

also perhaps (probably) some of us are interested in men who care more about what we are like on the inside


So, if men don't like it, forget men. The problem with it is that we don't out grow our genetic programming for a very long time. Like thousands of years. The reality is that men are generally attracted to certain physical characteristics. Long hair, a hip to waist ratio of 1 to 0.7, firm breasts, clear eyes, blemish free skin.



Your philosophy on this matter equals ideology over reality. You seem to think you can attract a man no matter how ugly you make yourself. But, are the men you attract the kind you'd want to get involved with?

I know a woman. She's smart, funny, socially gregarious and has a good job. But, she also weighs almost 400 pounds. She can't get a man to sleep with her unless she pays him. Now, is this the fault of men?


"Your philosophy on this matter equals ideology over reality. "
That really is such a crucial difference. Many, if not most women have no idea what the difference is, especially those espousing the tenets of 'radical feminism' without any idea of it's ideological origins and developers of this politically inspired 'noveau Marxism' just that 'it sounds good' to say on behalf of equal rights. I would dare say that for most males, that would be a bigger turnoff that just plain physical "ugliness"

no photo
Mon 02/11/13 04:59 PM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 02/11/13 05:05 PM


So, all men who are balding are losing their hair because of poor health?


Not necessarily, I just read a scientific study on the internet that a lot of men deliberately go bald so women won't be attracted to them or want to date them. If you don't agree with this fact then it is your burden dispute to this.:wink: :wink: :wink:

no photo
Mon 02/11/13 05:43 PM
Edited by singmesweet on Mon 02/11/13 06:33 PM



So, all men who are balding are losing their hair because of poor health?


Not necessarily, I just read a scientific study on the internet that a lot of men deliberately go bald so women won't be attracted to them or want to date them. If you don't agree with this fact then it is your burden dispute to this.:wink: :wink: :wink:


laugh

mssilverfox's photo
Mon 02/11/13 06:16 PM
I could say the same about men that shave their hair..I think some guys look good bald..And I like guys with long hair as long as its clean and neat looking..

I cut my hair short after having my third child and had problems with my hair falling out.. A couple of years ago I wore my hair short and spiked on the top, got lots of complements from men and women.. One woman ask where I got my hair cut as she wanted to get hers that way...I prefer my hair short, I'm on the go alot and its easy to take care of...I'm in the pool all the time in the summer, blow dry and go...lol

mountainwatergirl's photo
Mon 02/11/13 07:32 PM




some women actaully look very nice with shorter hair and like to style it. Personally I think short hair is too high maintenance.

but most of us have outgrown the gene evolution that says we must look nice for men. We look nice for ourselves

so it's about time that men outgrow the likes long hair gene seems, once againm a little high school....jmho

also perhaps (probably) some of us are interested in men who care more about what we are like on the inside


So, if men don't like it, forget men. The problem with it is that we don't out grow our genetic programming for a very long time. Like thousands of years. The reality is that men are generally attracted to certain physical characteristics. Long hair, a hip to waist ratio of 1 to 0.7, firm breasts, clear eyes, blemish free skin.

Your philosophy on this matter equals ideology over reality. You seem to think you can attract a man no matter how ugly you make yourself. But, are the men you attract the kind you'd want to get involved with?

I know a woman. She's smart, funny, socially gregarious and has a good job. But, she also weighs almost 400 pounds. She can't get a man to sleep with her unless she pays him. Now, is this the fault of men?


I know some very good looking men that are dating and even married to what most men would find very unattractive in looks and weight. Beauty to them truly is in the eye of the beholder as they accept these women for their personalities and not the looks. Not every man is that shallow.


Yes, there are exceptions to the rule. But, that doesn't mean the rule is untrue as a whole. I'm not talking about the people you know. I'm talking GENERALLY.

An attractive looking woman is simply going to have more options when it comes to men than an unattractive one.

It's not shallow of men to prefer a healthy woman over an unhealthy one. All the things men find attractive in women's looks are indicators of good health.



GENERALLY, women also look for certain characteristics in men. A thick head of hair can be pretty important to a girl to run her fingers through and shows his health. Why do some men not have hair at all sometimes?
Or even just getting thin, and receding??
still attractive?
I love long hair on men. Lots of women do. Why dont you have long hair?
Probably the same reason some women chose not to.
So much for hair.


msharmony's photo
Mon 02/11/13 08:27 PM

We've covered this already. YOu may find it unattractive, but clearly many other men don't. So, I don't see that women cutting their hair is making them unattractive to men. Perhaps to you, but to all men? No, of course not. So no, I don't think women making this change are saying no to men in general. Just those who specifically don't find short hair attractive, like you.


Alright then, let's try making it more personal.

A woman is married to a man. She knows he is very fond of her long hair. But, she decides to cut it off anyway. She knows this will make her less attractive to him. So, is this a conscious effort on her part to become less attractive in his eyes?



noone knows someone elses intent without asking them

women cut their hair for as many different reasons as men let theirs grow

noone is gonna be attractive to EVERY man or EVERY woman

some men like, for instance, women who wear tight clothing and short cut blouses

I dont prefer to attract the man who is SEEKING those things out, nor are they comfortable to me to wear... so I dont

other women, may find something someone doesnt want and do it intentionally to upset them,, in fact, thats true of people in both genders,,,


so, the short answer, some people undoubtedly do things to themself for the purpose of being 'less attractive' to others

and some people do things to themself for the purpose of being 'more comfortable' or 'more attractive' for themself,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Mon 02/11/13 08:32 PM
my ex always told me she just didn't want to have to deal/take care of long hair anymore. I didn't want her to cut it, but i understood why she wanted to.

oldhippie1952's photo
Mon 02/11/13 08:34 PM
I want a woman with long hair so I can use it as a comb over for my bald spots...

navygirl's photo
Mon 02/11/13 09:13 PM

my ex always told me she just didn't want to have to deal/take care of long hair anymore. I didn't want her to cut it, but i understood why she wanted to.


Wow; an understanding man! I am impressed as they are so rare. love

GreenEyes48's photo
Tue 02/12/13 04:40 AM
My focus is on making myself happy and being who I want to be...I'm in my sixties now and every now and then I run into "senior women" who wonder why I still have long hair...I keep my hair long because it makes me happy...I don't live my life to "please" men or other women...I had to wear a uniform and "conform" when I was a kid and went to Catholic schools. That was enough "conformity" for me!...I don't want to be a clone or carbon-copy of everyone else! My hair and my body and my mind belongs to me!.. I am not on earth to "please" others or "be" who someone else thinks (or expects) me to "be."

mountainwatergirl's photo
Tue 02/12/13 06:29 AM

My focus is on making myself happy and being who I want to be...I'm in my sixties now and every now and then I run into "senior women" who wonder why I still have long hair...I keep my hair long because it makes me happy...I don't live my life to "please" men or other women...I had to wear a uniform and "conform" when I was a kid and went to Catholic schools. That was enough "conformity" for me!...I don't want to be a clone or carbon-copy of everyone else! My hair and my body and my mind belongs to me!.. I am not on earth to "please" others or "be" who someone else thinks (or expects) me to "be."


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

mountainwatergirl's photo
Tue 02/12/13 06:36 AM

Women know that men generally find long hair attractive on a woman. Yet, many women cut their hair short. Why? Is it a conscious choice on your part to become less attractive? Do you think looking good is just too much work and not worth the payoff?




To just answer your question ... yes.
she's cut her hair because she no longer cares what you want.
its become about her.

msharmony's photo
Tue 02/12/13 06:44 AM
laugh laugh laugh


can women actually think about THEMSELF?,,,,,ur joking?