Oh Andy, I already told you to stop blowing the hot air my way.

You waste it here.

Froggie?

Out of the hundreds of nations of the world, the US rates 28th in violent crime (and a dozen or more nations are smaller than Maine or Rhode Island)!

So wherever you are getting your facts is sorely lacking in anything resembling truth or factual info!

Chew on this with your "gun crazy" theory! And remember there are 300,000,000 plus people in the US!

Still doesn't change the fact that if guns were a deterrent the US would have the lowest crime rate in the world.

Guns don't deter anything.

There is no criminal in the US who can be sure there is no gun where they commit their crime. None. The do the crime knowing that a gun might be there anyway


So no gun is a deterrent to a crime.

You are trying to argue a point to which there has been no topic raised!

But on that point, if you are armed it is less likely you will become a victim to a crime, not unlikely, but less likely.... sometimes that's enough.

Just like the "You don't need a semi-auto to hunt deer" argument. The founders didn't have deer hunting in mind when they said the people should have the same rights to any arms a military may possess to ensure their right of freedom and statehood against a tyrannical gov't!

"The power of the sword, say the minority..., is in the hands of Congress. My friends and countrymen, it is not so, for The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but where, I trust in God, it will always remain, in the hands of the people."

The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

i have been in this fight since before you were around, and i see that every year they ratchet up the tyranny, like the frog in hot water. when is enough enough??? What time during being opressed and having your rights Taken away on the installment plan DO YOU ACT? After they take your hi cap mags? Do you wait until they ban pump action shotguns? pistols? UNTIL WE STAND IN A ROW THEY WILL CONTINUE MY FRIEND.

... GUN TOTERS KILL EACH OTHER??? Do you really believe that everyone who carries is spoiling for a fight, looking for a reason to draw down??? you are out of touch with reality if you believe that.

Is it true if you live by the sword you die by the sword?

Feel a gun is necessity, maybe die by/because of this necessity?

None of which changes the fact that the US should have the lowest crime rate of the world if guns are a deterrent, there is one for all of the population.

Guns are obviously not a deterrent if the idea of a gun being there is suppose to be a deterrent.

I say again.... You care very little for facts since the US has one of the lowest crime rates in the world per capita.... but again.... you don't care about facts, your mind is a closed book, so no need trying to confuse you with them.

By the way..... tell that opinion to a cop but don't be surprised when they laugh in your face!

I would be happy to stop gun crazies from killing kids. Give me a gun and point them out. I'd be happy to shoot them.



Seriously when are you going to wake up?

YOU CAN'T STOP CRAZY, AND YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID.

How do you want it? I have stood my ground to men a lot bigger and more motivated to start something with me than you... I have faced down dogs with a lot more bite than you bare handed. I stopped carrying a knife YEARS ago becasue I did not want to provoke a situation where I have been in fights becasue some jerk has to start something with me becasue of a knife on my side. Only twice have I ever resorted in my life to actually pulling a knife in a fight. These days I just resort to what I learned the hard way. So you are not offering for me to step onto a mat are you? That would be a horrendous mistake on your part especially if you assume a black belt will spare you me. What makes you think I will fight anyone with any rules or decorum? I don't fight. I do however regulate. So hot air? You are the one teasing a dragon here. Be careful, I do breath fire. I just have yet to do it.

About that hot air...

Froggie? I already am air born!



Notice how I am gracefully embracing the air like a lover? Air under the soles of my webbed feet? Where will I land?

Seriously, are you offering to take me on in a fist fight? Is that what you are implying? Is that what you mean by "Froggie?" Do I dare take you on?

You are aware you are SOOOO tempting a side of me you really would not want to see! Lucifer himself is scared poopless of my dark side!

Or do you fancy yourself a master of a war of whits? Unfair! I am up against an unarmed opponent! The victory would feel hollow!

If you want to debate do so with real reason, real facts, and real information. Not lies, propaganda, and self belief! Nope, Facts to you are like soap to you in a bath evidently. You appear to be afraid of one so you must be afraid of the other. How is that for a fallacy? Can you identify it?

You know I think we are facing the other extreme of the crazy rainbow! one one end the violent nut cases and on the other the Peace Queens. They are so sold on peace at any cost they could care less if that cost is more lives lost to the ideal of peace itself!

Sadly some crazy and stupid is educated making it more dangerous!

willowdraga, you are fixated and hypnotized completely on the media hyped story of 20 children you believe were killed by a gun.

FIXATED. HYPNOTIZED.

You don't see the facts. How many CHILDREN are abused and killed by sick pedifiles every year?

How may CHILDREN are kidnapped? How many CHILDREN die in car accidents every year?

Look around you. CHILDREN DIE EVERY DAY.

Come out of your stupified trance and look at the facts and statistics. People of America are not going to stand for this attack on our right to bear arms. I'm sure you think that anyone who is willing to fight a war is "crazy."

Then why don't you use your energy to campaign against all the illegal wars this country is engaged in that kills hundreds of CHILDREN EVERY YEAR?

You are mesmerized on one single media hyped up story of 20 children and you are using that as a weapon in an attempt to destroy our constitutional rights.

20 CHILDREN KILLED IN AMERICA? GET OVER IT.

Hundreds OF CHILDREN are dying in Africa because of conflict and globalist wars.

sure glad you don't live in my Country!

actually they do case the Joint,and normally are reasonably sure there is no Firearm at their Place of Business!

Since you have had so many years to consider the problem, ask yourself the same question.

So reading this makes me think you came to the conclusion that actions beyond working from within the system were needed long ago . . . . what have you done?

a word of Advice for the next time you feel froggy,and think about taking a Firearm away from someone that does Open Carry,like you said in another Post!
DONT!
If you survive it,you will be charged with Assault,attempted Theft or Robbery,and anything else the Police can think up to charge with!

You have nothin for me sweetie. Waste of my time as usual.

Again, no one can dispute that if guns were real deterrents to crimes the US would have the lowest crime rate in the world. There is one gun here for each of us.

No criminal knows for sure there is no gun where they commit their crime. Nor do they know if a passerby or whoever won't have one.

So the idea of a gun being there doesn't stop them.

They aren't afraid of guns....

Guns are not a deterrent to crime. Guns give those who believe it, imaginary protection from imagined fearful intruders. Who in truth are not afraid of the gun.