True scientists get shut down because true science by its very nature will always lead one beyond the boundaries of the status quo. Telescopes are now seeing far into the cosmos and scientists have worked out that our galaxy has hundreds of billions of stars.

They have also discovered thus far, that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies. Just contemplate that for a moment; hundreds of billions of galaxies, each containing hundreds of billions of stars. And that is only what has been discovered so far in the visible Cosmos.

I find it incredibly amusing when a probe gets sent to Mars by a group of people who call themselves scientists, who themselves have been totally brainwashed by this system’s curriculum and are there looking for the possibility of life in the form of bacteria. All the while the evidence for extra-terrestrial life surrounds them, throughout the Cosmos and all over our planet, yet they are blinded by their own programmed state of mind. They are literally programmed into not accepting the evidence that is before them and simply dismiss it as conspiracy, myth, legend or fantasy.

So after addressing to varying degrees some of the broader issues at hand, know there are multitudes of people on our planet who are having experiences beyond the boundaries of the “official” rubber stamped version of reality. Most are too hesitant to share their experiences for fear of ridicule and persecution, but some are not. I am one who is not! The three subjects considered taboo or inappropriate, ridiculed in conversation and in some cases even forbidden in our communities are the three very same systems that are used to control our Human race: Politics, Religion and Extra-Terrestrial or Inter Dimensional life!

Is this a prelude to you sharing those experiences?

I don't think I have seen any evidence of ETs. There was a BBC sportscaster who went a bit nutty, calling himself the son of the godhead(after a psychic told him so) and claimed that the world is controlled by reptiles from outerspace. Again no evidence of this that would be considered real (good chapter on him in Ronson's book THEM). Most of his writing is considered very good satire (ala Swift) or that he is off his nutter. Him was once banned from Canada, because they thought his reference to reptiles was code for Jews. The authorities were shocked when his supports affirmed that when he says retiles, he really means reptiles.

I'm not buying your "NASA scientists are brainwashed" hypothesis. I think they are just dealing with what they have at hand. They don't have the technology to open wormholes and don't have the funding to try.

What they do have is the ability to send a probe to a neighboring planet. If they find some form of life there, they may get the funding required to build something that can take a human to the red planet (and of course, bring him/her home). NASA isn't looking for E.T.s, that's SETI. NASA is more concerned with taking us to them.

Our understanding of physics, quantum mechanics and solar exploration is poor at best, and must be dramatically improved before we can even think about actively pursuing contact with alien life. This cannot be done in giant leaps, no advance in human intelligence or invention has ever done so. This is a slow steady process, that like most things, starts out small, like an acorn before becoming the mighty oak.

Didn't Sagan launch a probe to contact alien life and isn't that what SETI was for?

Really? That could be because you ASSUME that "alien life" must be light years away from us.

Alien life is here and the evidence is here.

Do you know this for a fact?

I'm not sure who you are talking about.

Most people who have been in contact with "reptilians" are usually considered to be a bit "nutty" so that's no surprise. Strangely, a lot of people have been in contact with reptilians...... while the scientific community still claim that they are not "real."

Not really. My experiences pale ln comparison to others so it would not be anything significant for anyone to hear.

I think his name is David Icke

Yes I know all about David Icke. He's not "nuts." He is an extremely nice guy. I love to listen to him.

Sagan designed a plaque that would show alien civilizations how to find earth, which was attatched to Voyager I before it's launch. A second "improved" one was also designed by Sagan and attatched to Voyager II, if that is what you were referring too. SETI, is actually a land based system of "listening" for radio signals from deep space from multiple listening stations around the world.

I'm kind of curious why ET is carving up cattle....

I don't think I'm the one that needs to post evidence in this case. I don't have a hypothesis to support. My "facts" are supported by the "published" works of NASA as well as the corresponding missions on which they are currently working.

Wormholes can be created, and have been in the Hadron Collider, but without sufficient energy to keep them "open." Which also supports my claim that we do not have sufficient science or technology.

Your premise that aliens are not light years away is also a false claim. Unless there is a inhabited planet in this solar system, by definition (as the nearest star is four light years away), alien life must be light years away. This is true because humans do not have the capability to reach THEM. That aliens can "dimensionally shift" or use "warp," or "wormhole" technology to come here, does not imply the same thing.

You claim that these beings are here. Where is your proof? The smoking ray gun as it were. Blurry photos of UFOs? All a UFO is, is an unidentified object, which means we don't know what it was. It could be anything, birds, planes sun spots, or actual alien craft. Your hypothesis your burden of proof.

That's McDonalds.

I understand the aliens put up several plaques that say "Warning ... Dangerous Inhabitants! ... Stay away at all costs!!!...

You must be assuming that what I mean by "alien life" must be a similar carbon based lifeform and lives in this physical 3rd dimension on a planet far far away.

You would have to get out of that box before you can comprehend what I am suggesting.




I'm not sure what you mean by the above statement.




The grand irony is proof can be found everywhere if you are aware enough.

Skeptics claim to be the realists based on scientific evidence yet they live in denial of the evidence. What the evidence now proves is that they are not true skeptics and they are not true scientists.

Yes, they are dealing with reality; but what they are dealing with is such a limited and distorted version of reality, that they cannot see they have boxed themselves into their own dogmatic religion.

True scientists get shut down because true science by its very nature will always lead one beyond the boundaries of the status quo. Most are not willing to go there.

The proof is in the experience.

That isn't how science works and never has been. The object of most science is to add knowledge, usually in small increments but sometimes in huge leaps. The status quo is never a boundary.

In real science the status quo is never a boundary.

And yet discussions like this have to be placed in the "Mysterious Phenomena and Paranormal" threads because the science and philosophy thread will have a cow if they find it there.

Guess I found a boundary.

What is the scientific community doing today to solve the question of alien abductions and UFO sightings that cannot be explained?

What is the scientific community doing today to solve the question of crop circles besides dismissing them and claiming they are all hoaxes performed by humans all over the world?

What has the scientific community done to solve the mystery of mutilated cattle and other live stock?

From what I can see they ignore and dismiss and cover it up.

Any serious scientists who get involved in any of these mysteries is drummed out of the community and labeled a "nut."