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msharmony
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Mon 12/17/12 12:26 PM
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but that is true a right to 'reasonable defense' is not the same as a right to a gun I'm afraid that in this miserable excuse for a civilization it is the same. Having a gun to protect yourself is your right. If you choose to waive it that is your privilege. To deny that right to others would be an infringement of their rights and an act of criminal negligence. What you decide for yourself is your right. What you decide for others is tyranny. so lets repeal pedophile laws shall we? lets repeal speed limits too your rights end where my nose begins, and you having a weapon that is capable of taking out me and ten others around me in half a minute is not a 'reasonable' mode of 'self defense' My having a gun might not be self defence against you; you aren't even armed, but it is a perfectly reasonable defence against an armed attacker, and if I had my way, I'd carry a loaded pistol at all times. It wouldn't matter if you repealed ALL the laws. For that matter, it wouldn't matter if you burned every law book and case precedent in the country; The law will always be the law. It existed before we learned writing and will exist after all the writing has turned to dust. The concepts of law and justice are inscribed in the human heart, not in a library or a legislature. another too simplistic view killing has also existed before the law,, does that make it a 'natural' right? rape existed before the law, does that make it a 'natural' right robbery by force existed before the law , does that make it a 'natural' right? who has guns should matter, as well as how much destruction the guns are capable of but those terrified of a boogeyman coming to make them defenseless before it destroys them,, will continue to debate this topic with those of us who think the boogeyman is already inside the very people who are scared will have this debate until the ends of time,,, |
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but that is true a right to 'reasonable defense' is not the same as a right to a gun I'm afraid that in this miserable excuse for a civilization it is the same. Having a gun to protect yourself is your right. If you choose to waive it that is your privilege. To deny that right to others would be an infringement of their rights and an act of criminal negligence. What you decide for yourself is your right. What you decide for others is tyranny. so lets repeal pedophile laws shall we? lets repeal speed limits too your rights end where my nose begins, and you having a weapon that is capable of taking out me and ten others around me in half a minute is not a 'reasonable' mode of 'self defense' You are crossing into some really dangerous territory by stating that others "rights" end at the tip of your nose. If their constitutional rights are taken away by your opinion, it is just as easy for your constitutional rights to be taken away by their opinion. Perhaps they many think that you should pay back all the money the government has provided you on the backs of their paychecks. Perhaps they may think that you should be forced to work without pay until such tax money is repaid. The concept of taking constitutional rights away because you don't understand their purpose works both ways. You are not a judge, in any way, of what makes a constitutional right reasonable. well, I actually have/will pay back all the money provided me,, the whopping 3500 per year that 'assistance' provides will probably be 'paid back' through taxes of my own somewhere in my fifty plus years of working,,, the common myth here is that any right is an 'absolute' right, constitutional or otherwise the right to free speech is taken away if you yell fire and cause people harm as a result the right to a speedy trial is taken away if you are declared mentally insufficient to stand trial likewise, there is common sense value to putting certain limitations on peoples 'right' to have weapons like if they are unstable in some way emotionally, or if they have violent pasts,,,or if the weapon in question can do mass damage in minimum time with minimum effort All rights come with corresponding duties. The right to free speech comes with the duty not to abuse it by (criminally) yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre. The right to own a gun comes with the duty to not use it criminally, etc., etc. The right to own a gun also comes with the duty to handle it safely and wisely. Anyone who does not or cannot perform that duty has NO RIGHT to have a gun. Fortunately the majority of people are reasonable and capable of performing the duties that go along with their right to own a gun. |
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