But isn't that the point? Hearing his horror stories from the begining on a first date? To find out before you become more invested in a person, that he is bitter and end it right quick?

So you are saying you would want to date a person for a while, ( lets say three or four dates) and then find out he is bitter, hates women, or only drives his car on Wednesdays? Just because he read somewhere that it makes his date uncomfortable,so he doesn't mention this information. Seems to me I would rather find out that stuff early on.

I can just see it...WOW this guy is really fun, likes to bowl, paints like Picasso, and cooks like Guy Ferria. But can only carry a conversation if it is ex bashing. And it is months later you find this out. Yeah, no thanks. I want to know this information ASAP.

I feel if I hear his stories about his past and it turns me off on the first date, I know not to have a second date. Why hide stuff about a person from the begining?

Those feelings of being uncomfortable are suppose to be the whistles, bells and red flags waving to keep a person from having another date with this person.

This is just my opinion.

It would be a big turn off if the whole first date was him bashing his exes. A comment here or there about an ex if it's relevant to the conversation would not be a problem, but stories about why he's so bitter? No thanks.

And clearly, if he could not hold a conversation without bashing his ex, that would be found out immediately, rather than months from now. Also, I'm not saying wait months to discuss things that happened in the past. I just don't see the point of turning off the other person by being so negative on a first date.

Well to me that is the point of a first date. To find out if they are or are not a person I would hang out with again. If I am turned off, I do not date that person again. Unless I was dating just to date, and not find a long term person for me. I am too old to be playing these types of games.

Even though it is not for me personally, there just might be someone who hates their ex just as much as the other person on this date and the two people just might bond over this conversation.

This thread was about what we'd not like to hear on a first date, correct? I answered the question based on my own preferences.

As did I in my first post you quoted. I did not realise I could not ask more questions or respond to your response. Mea Culpa.

I will see that is does not happen again.

Oh, come on. Ask whatever questions you want. Just don't get upset when yo don't get the responses you were specifically looking for, or if we just don't agree.

Well to me that is the point of a first date. To find out if they are or are not a person I would hang out with again. If I am turned off, I do not date that person again. Unless I was dating just to date, and not find a long term person for me. I am too old to be playing these types of games.

Even though it is not for me personally, there just might be someone who hates their ex just as much as the other person on this date and the two people just might bond over this conversation.