Topic: the real picture
InvictusV's photo
Sat 11/10/12 02:30 PM

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 11/10/12 02:39 PM
So are you saying intellectual, well read city dwellers voted blue, and redneck, toothless rural folks voted red?

s1owhand's photo
Sat 11/10/12 02:56 PM




I see the smiley face going from LA to NC!

:smile:

InvictusV's photo
Sat 11/10/12 03:18 PM

So are you saying intellectual, well read city dwellers voted blue, and redneck, toothless rural folks voted red?


yeah like detroit..

the shining star of the new america..




RoamingOrator's photo
Sat 11/10/12 03:21 PM
That's not an accurate map. I know for a fact that 67% of the vote in Marshall Co. Kansas (North Central) went to third party candidate Gary Johnson with Obama getting 28%. Yet I can see by that map it's lit up as red as a stop sign. Shouldn't it be like purple or something?

metalwing's photo
Sat 11/10/12 03:22 PM
The Texas part is "right on".

no photo
Sat 11/10/12 03:36 PM

So are you saying intellectual, well read city dwellers voted blue, and redneck, toothless rural folks voted red?


So true!! rofl

InvictusV's photo
Sat 11/10/12 03:42 PM

That's not an accurate map. I know for a fact that 67% of the vote in Marshall Co. Kansas (North Central) went to third party candidate Gary Johnson with Obama getting 28%. Yet I can see by that map it's lit up as red as a stop sign. Shouldn't it be like purple or something?



yeah...

you know for a fact..


Marshall 100.0% Reporting

M. Romney GOP 66.7% 3,123
B. Obama (i) Dem 31.0% 1,451
G. Johnson Lib 1.6% 76
C. Baldwin RP 0.6% 29

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/kansas/

You were really close..

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 11/10/12 03:43 PM
hey....America is seeing red?!?!?!?! laugh

InvictusV's photo
Sat 11/10/12 03:51 PM

hey....America is seeing red?!?!?!?! laugh


hey rose..

are you talking about the national debt?

Obama is definitely going "forward" on that..

msharmony's photo
Sat 11/10/12 03:54 PM


hey....America is seeing red?!?!?!?! laugh


hey rose..

are you talking about the national debt?

Obama is definitely going "forward" on that..


depends on the pov

'Total indebtedness including that of federal and state governments and consumers has fallen to 3.29 times gross domestic product, the least since 2006, from a peak of 3.59 four years ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-debt-hits-a-6-year-low-2012-10#ixzz2BrozEqu2

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 11/10/12 04:11 PM


hey....America is seeing red?!?!?!?! laugh


hey rose..

are you talking about the national debt?

Obama is definitely going "forward" on that..


I'm too tired to know what I'm talking about laugh

I just saw a lot of red there lol

I was TRYING to be funny bigsmile

InvictusV's photo
Sat 11/10/12 04:21 PM



hey....America is seeing red?!?!?!?! laugh


hey rose..

are you talking about the national debt?

Obama is definitely going "forward" on that..


depends on the pov

'Total indebtedness including that of federal and state governments and consumers has fallen to 3.29 times gross domestic product, the least since 2006, from a peak of 3.59 four years ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-debt-hits-a-6-year-low-2012-10#ixzz2BrozEqu2




U.S. debt has shrunk to a six-year low relative to the size of the economy as homeowners, cities and companies cut borrowing, undermining rating companies’ downgrading of the nation’s credit rating.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-09/u-s-downgrade-seen-as-upgrade-as-u-s-debt-dissolved.html

This is the first sentence of the actual article.

It compares ALL US debt to gdp..

Obviously, if millions of people lost their homes their debt to revenue ratio will decrease.

If they have no home to borrow money against, their debt to revenue ratio will decrease..

The federal governments deficit to revenue ratio has decreased, but the debt has increased.

The debt to GDP ratio for the federal government has increased exponentially under Obama's "forward" economic policies..

No alternative point of view is going to skew that..

metalwing's photo
Sat 11/10/12 06:03 PM



hey....America is seeing red?!?!?!?! laugh


hey rose..

are you talking about the national debt?

Obama is definitely going "forward" on that..


I'm too tired to know what I'm talking about laugh

I just saw a lot of red there lol

I was TRYING to be funny bigsmile


You don't need to try to be funny!!!laugh

metalwing's photo
Sat 11/10/12 06:06 PM



hey....America is seeing red?!?!?!?! laugh


hey rose..

are you talking about the national debt?

Obama is definitely going "forward" on that..


depends on the pov

'Total indebtedness including that of federal and state governments and consumers has fallen to 3.29 times gross domestic product, the least since 2006, from a peak of 3.59 four years ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-debt-hits-a-6-year-low-2012-10#ixzz2BrozEqu2


Take the state part and consumer part out and you are left with the Obama part which is what you responded to. The state and consumer parts would be considered "straw man" arguments.

RoamingOrator's photo
Sun 11/11/12 07:14 AM
Edited by RoamingOrator on Sun 11/11/12 07:22 AM


That's not an accurate map. I know for a fact that 67% of the vote in Marshall Co. Kansas (North Central) went to third party candidate Gary Johnson with Obama getting 28%. Yet I can see by that map it's lit up as red as a stop sign. Shouldn't it be like purple or something?



yeah...

you know for a fact..


Marshall 100.0% Reporting

M. Romney GOP 66.7% 3,123
B. Obama (i) Dem 31.0% 1,451
G. Johnson Lib 1.6% 76
C. Baldwin RP 0.6% 29

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/kansas/

You were really close..


Funny, wasn't posted that way in the local paper. I'll have to go talk to the editor.

Of course now that I'm looking at the numbers you have posted, the Romney and Johnson numbers appear to be exactly the same but switched. It might have been an error in the local paper, which wouldn't be the first one.

I thought that was odd when I originally saw it in the paper. Thanks for destroying my hope that there was one county in Kansas that was still free thinking. Now then, back to your regular programing.

no photo
Sun 11/11/12 07:19 AM

So are you saying intellectual, well read city dwellers voted blue, and redneck, toothless rural folks voted red?


I see a big blue area up through Arkansas where the tooth brush was invented.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/11/12 07:39 AM




hey....America is seeing red?!?!?!?! laugh


hey rose..

are you talking about the national debt?

Obama is definitely going "forward" on that..


depends on the pov

'Total indebtedness including that of federal and state governments and consumers has fallen to 3.29 times gross domestic product, the least since 2006, from a peak of 3.59 four years ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-debt-hits-a-6-year-low-2012-10#ixzz2BrozEqu2


Take the state part and consumer part out and you are left with the Obama part which is what you responded to. The state and consumer parts would be considered "straw man" arguments.


actually, I was responding to the topic of 'debt',,, as in TOTAL indebtedness

no straw man present

Lpdon's photo
Mon 11/12/12 09:03 PM


So are you saying intellectual, well read city dwellers voted blue, and redneck, toothless rural folks voted red?


I see a big blue area up through Arkansas where the tooth brush was invented.


On the subject of Arkansas................