It occurred to me today that pay sites may be safer than free sites. My reasoning is that if something happens the site has all the person's credit card information and thay can therefore be tracked down.

Don't get me wrong, I think mingle2 is awesome. I love these forums. But, this is something worth thinking about.

Christian mingle charges money, so I cancelled my account.

Maybe I wasn't clear. If you met someone from the site and it turned out to be a trap to rob you, the card holder that opened the account could be tracked down. On a free site there isn't any way to track them.

But, I suppose the account could be opened with a stolen card though.

I really haven't had any scam problems on here, althgh I have been on a paid site before and it was a hassle, still a bunch of players. Probably mostly married men, I found, on singleparentsmeet. Or something like that. I think if they are crooks they are mor than likely using a fake name and fake account anyways, whether or not they are paying for the site or not.

The only way to fake it on a pay site would be to have a stolen credit card.

I don't think at all that that is a real problem.

Most people never find anyone; and the ones who find one, would be so excited, that being robbed in a stolen car, would be the most romantic thing that happened to them in decades.

It also does not rule out that they two may become lovers.

You see, the woman's feminine fierceness of giving her money to the robber before threats come out, and helping him find a getaway plan, etc. etc. and all her help to him to help himself may get through to him so much, that he eventually breaks down, breaks down into a sobbing of tears, changes his ways, becomes a copy machine repair man, marries the woman and the two live happily ever after.

This sort of thing does not happen during insipid coffee dates or during one night stands when the man is already married.

IN THE RARE EVENT that the robber and the woman don't become a loving couple, or the robber and the man, then the robbed member will have a lifetime's supply of one story to tell. He or she will bet he darling of the forum crowd. Nobody can top him or her in popularity.

So... what do you say, mate. Date? I'll bring my gun and hold-up note, you bring your life savings.

Of course, but they are scammers after all, they are most likely using skimmers and all that for all their money transactions anyways. They use fake money orders and cashiers checks. Why not fake cc.

Not to mention, they might think a person who can afford a pay site could afford to pay them more, or maybe consider them more desperate as well, who knows.

i think mingle does a stellar job keeping scammers at bay - pay or free, i don't know that it would help a whole heck of a lot; i wonder what you would have to prove happened in order to even have a site start an investigation?

i'll have a pepperoni pizza. :)

Oh, nonono.

You can get a credit card applying for one in an abroad country; mostly they want you to pay enough prepayment to your limit, and then you top it off each time before you want to use the card again.

Or you can walk up to the first bum on skid row or in Sally Ann, and give him $30's worth of crack cocaine if he will open a card and give it to you. Bad credit is not a problem, at all, becasue you can just open a deposit account and make payments to the singles site with electronic debit transactions.

These are only two of the 566 ways of telepaying for an internet service without needing to uncover your own identity, and without needing to steal a credit card.

There are about five million people currently in the USA alone whose identity is "undetermined" according to the IRS. These people may be actually only 500,000 people, or any number, theoretically, between 1 and ten billion.

O, I like this. The Nigerian scammers will get their scam-money drawn from a stolen credit card. Or the robber it he car will get his loot in used lottery tickets.

There is nothing that says that scammers and robbers do not have their own collection problems in accounts receivables. The poor saps, they can't even hire collection agencies.

And we all think of it as a danger. Guess what: their risk also involves jail term, so we are still better off just going on any old date inside an enclosed van, with five Russian Jewish Maffia members, and their 13-year-old boys who have gone through their bar mitzvah, to become a man.

Sorry about spitting in your soup, TexasScroundrel. But in my opinion it's one thing to be the maverick skeptic, the maverick "bad boy ultimate" attacking basic feminine values, and it's another thing to try to destroy a GOOD website with stupid and unfounded fear mongering.

And fear mongering works, just look at the popularity of Christianity, and the true reason, or rather, the true logic of the logistics of its fearmongering, for that scam.

This is nothing personal, you understand, I actually like your posts, but don't do stupid things like undermining the system from within, please.

Hate to burst your theory but those that want to scam can in fact go to the paid sites as well.. All one has to do is us the pre-paid cards there is no information linking one back to the card....

So regardless if it is a paid site or a free site one can still get scammed just as easily.

I would suggest to always be aware what is going on use common sense...Watch what one says to you and if they change their stories. Never give out your personal information. Never ever send money no matter what they say the situation is..

One of the main red flags of scammers are to get you off the site you are on and get you to yahoo. They don't want to stay on the site so Admin can ban them or check on their actions.

If you do go to yahoo or offsite IM I would suggest that you keep all the history of chat just in case...

There are websites to report scammers get to know them and do so..

As far as free sites Mingle2 does try their best to deal with the scammers as they are reported. It is very important to report scammers..

Just a heads I myself have found scammers on paid sites....

We ask that all members here take the time and use the report system. The Admin here work very hard to take care of all that are reported as well as getting many that are not reported... As far as free sites you will not find one that is on top of finding scammers as Mingle2 does. We rely a lot on our members to help us out in order to keep the site safe and in dealing with scammers...

Never think just because one was to go to a paid site you will be totally safe...It is the internet never let your guard totally down~~~~

Safe or not safe its up to you to take those appropriate steps to ensure your safety by letting your friends and family know who you are seeing, perhaps even introducing this person to a friend.

On the up note on pay sites. I think they have their advantages, you wont find as many players. As I feel people who are willing to pay for the service a more genuine in finding a partner. JMO

I see what you're saying. I've thought about it quite a few times. If someone was to con on a pay site, then they would waste some of their own money. Which would be way silly to risk money like that. You know the saying "You get what you pay for". If the quality is good enough, then I stay.

never thought about it

i like my fun without a price tag



im cheap

Jeffery Dalmer had a credit card,Common sense will prevail in most cases.

I think they have a lot of scammers on free sites. I am new and like Mingle2 also. However, I just talk to a nice man for 2 days on here.
And when I questioned him about why move to Yahoo. And why does he want a picture. When I have two posted. I have not heard back from him, still waiting. A professional, nice looking man at that. One photo, I wonder if that was really HIM.

Pay sites are good, I been on a few and people seem to be more
interested in finding someone for a real relationship. IMO I had a few nice dates, but no real love connections on My part.
I like Mingle2 found it by accident. But I notice MANY profiles
haven't visited since over 30 Days here.
Active people many play on these forums but do they actually, date
someone off here!

I have been on a few Pay sites ...It's just like the free ones
to me in terms of results .... js