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Topic: “Mitt Romney might just save America"
msharmony's photo
Sat 10/27/12 11:35 AM






money will always run this country,, no matter how many political labels/ parties we try to create




I disagree, there are those who believe in country, life and liberty more then money. Not everyone can be bought, some have principles and morals to do the right thing.



those people no doubt exist, but I dont think they will make up the majority of any political party, because I dont think they make up the majority of the citizenry,,,


There is enough of em to do just that, problem is they are not on the take so they do not raise 500 million dollars like the top two candidates do therefore are unable to attract the attention needed to win an election. Part of this is apathy and laziness on the prat of voters who do not take time to look for alternatives. Most people are unaware that they have other choices, too busy watchin wheel of fortune and American idol I guess.


getting out and getting known is what helps 'raise' the money

OBama was not exactly a megamillionaire when he first ran, he got into senate and became well known,,,,





And now that he is known he is bought just like a majority of other big name politicians and part of problem, this obviously includes Romney.


but bought by whom? there are obviously many different people and insudtries donating to each candidate,,,

so which 'owners' should we be concerned about?

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 10/27/12 11:40 AM







money will always run this country,, no matter how many political labels/ parties we try to create




I disagree, there are those who believe in country, life and liberty more then money. Not everyone can be bought, some have principles and morals to do the right thing.



those people no doubt exist, but I dont think they will make up the majority of any political party, because I dont think they make up the majority of the citizenry,,,


There is enough of em to do just that, problem is they are not on the take so they do not raise 500 million dollars like the top two candidates do therefore are unable to attract the attention needed to win an election. Part of this is apathy and laziness on the prat of voters who do not take time to look for alternatives. Most people are unaware that they have other choices, too busy watchin wheel of fortune and American idol I guess.


getting out and getting known is what helps 'raise' the money

OBama was not exactly a megamillionaire when he first ran, he got into senate and became well known,,,,





And now that he is known he is bought just like a majority of other big name politicians and part of problem, this obviously includes Romney.


but bought by whom? there are obviously many different people and insudtries donating to each candidate,,,

so which 'owners' should we be concerned about?


Look at their donors, its a whose who of corporations. This is who they work for and pass laws for, when a law is written by corporate lawyers and eventually signed by the president it does not bode well for us and this is what needs to stop. This is why 3rd party candidates MUST be included in all debates.

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 10/27/12 11:45 AM



Plato said that one of your penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors, I sort of agree but I think it more appropriate to say this about those who do participate but do not look at the bigger picture. That bigger picture is not allowing yourself to be controlled by the media and a top two candidate system.

Bravalady's photo
Sat 10/27/12 12:17 PM

Piers Morgan: “Mitt Romney might just save America”


By: John Hayward
10/15/2012 10:41 AM



CNN host Piers Morgan, who is not generally high on Republicans’ list of favorite talk show hosts, wrote a very lengthy editorial for the UK Daily Mail over the weekend, in which he lambasted Mitt Romney as “Mr. Flip Flop” and called him “the least principled politicians I’ve ever met”… but says that unprincipled flip-flopping son-of-a-gun might just be the man who can “save America.”

This might not be the most eagerly embraced endorsement to float across the transom over at Romney HQ, but given Morgan’s audience among American liberals, it’s an interesting development. Morgan’s characterization of Mr. Flip Flop’s adjusted political positions is not entirely fair – Romney was never “firmly pro-choice,” for example, and Morgan unreasonably oversimplifies the Romney critique of ObamaCare by saying that “On healthcare, he was the first governor to bring in a compulsory ‘mandate’ health insurance scheme. But when Obama did the same thing, he lambasted it as a terrible idea.” And I doubt the Tea Party feels quite as pampered by Romney’s outreach efforts as Morgan thinks they should.

But the conclusion Morgan reaches is that Romney’s personal character is so impeccable that he can be forgiven for a bit of political maneuvering. (Obama’s not exactly innocent of adjusting his positions, after all.) Morgan calls Romney “the squeakiest-clean man ever to run for the presidency in any country in the world,” hails his enormous personal donations to charity, and is particularly convinced that Romney’s proven ability to turn failing ventures around makes him the right man to clean up after Obama:


But how much does Romney’s flip-flopping actually matter to the result of the election? The main concern for Americans right now is the economy, after all. I asked Bill Clinton recently if he felt Romney was a ‘principled man’ and Clinton smiled: ‘That’s not the issue to me.’

And I suspect it’s not for most voters either. They just want to know which man, Romney or Obama, is going to revive the economy faster.

Obama is not a hated figure among most Americans by any means, which is why he may still scrape home. But there’s definitely a distinct disillusionment about his performance, even among many of his diehard supporters.

The great messianic tidal wave of optimism Obama swept in on has been replaced by harsh reality.

He promised Americans tremendous ‘hope’ and ‘change’ and, frankly, they don’t feel he’s given them much hope, or changed very much.

Morgan sums up his estimation with a quote from a “senior Republican figure,” who told him during the Republican convention, “Mitt’s not the kind of guy you’d go for a beer with, mainly because he doesn’t drink beer. But he’s the kind of guy who gets stuff done.” If his editorial reflects a growing sentiment among Left-leaning persuadable voters, Obama is in deep trouble.


http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/15/piers-morgan-mitt-romney-might-just-save-america/

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Sat 10/27/12 02:33 PM



money will always run this country,, no matter how many political labels/ parties we try to create





Money does not do anything.

People with money, vision, drive, ruthlessness who love to compete are the ones who run this country.

To them its one big game of monopoly.

Ever play monopoly? You have to be a ruthless a hole to win that game.



Im not ruthless and I have won at monopoly, cause everyone plays the same game by the same rules,,,starts out with the same, has the literal same odds,,,,


unlike life,,,

but you are right, people with money rule things, and our best bet is that more DECENT and JUST persons make up that class of folks sometime in the near future,,,


I have played monopoly too, and the more ruthless you are, the faster you will win, but you have to buy everything you can get your hands on.


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Sat 10/27/12 03:49 PM

Piers Morgan: “Mitt Romney might just save America”


By: John Hayward
10/15/2012 10:41 AM



CNN host Piers Morgan, who is not generally high on Republicans’ list of favorite talk show hosts, wrote a very lengthy editorial for the UK Daily Mail over the weekend, in which he lambasted Mitt Romney as “Mr. Flip Flop” and called him “the least principled politicians I’ve ever met”… but says that unprincipled flip-flopping son-of-a-gun might just be the man who can “save America.”

This might not be the most eagerly embraced endorsement to float across the transom over at Romney HQ, but given Morgan’s audience among American liberals, it’s an interesting development. Morgan’s characterization of Mr. Flip Flop’s adjusted political positions is not entirely fair – Romney was never “firmly pro-choice,” for example, and Morgan unreasonably oversimplifies the Romney critique of ObamaCare by saying that “On healthcare, he was the first governor to bring in a compulsory ‘mandate’ health insurance scheme. But when Obama did the same thing, he lambasted it as a terrible idea.” And I doubt the Tea Party feels quite as pampered by Romney’s outreach efforts as Morgan thinks they should.

But the conclusion Morgan reaches is that Romney’s personal character is so impeccable that he can be forgiven for a bit of political maneuvering. (Obama’s not exactly innocent of adjusting his positions, after all.) Morgan calls Romney “the squeakiest-clean man ever to run for the presidency in any country in the world,” hails his enormous personal donations to charity, and is particularly convinced that Romney’s proven ability to turn failing ventures around makes him the right man to clean up after Obama:


But how much does Romney’s flip-flopping actually matter to the result of the election? The main concern for Americans right now is the economy, after all. I asked Bill Clinton recently if he felt Romney was a ‘principled man’ and Clinton smiled: ‘That’s not the issue to me.’

And I suspect it’s not for most voters either. They just want to know which man, Romney or Obama, is going to revive the economy faster.

Obama is not a hated figure among most Americans by any means, which is why he may still scrape home. But there’s definitely a distinct disillusionment about his performance, even among many of his diehard supporters.

The great messianic tidal wave of optimism Obama swept in on has been replaced by harsh reality.

He promised Americans tremendous ‘hope’ and ‘change’ and, frankly, they don’t feel he’s given them much hope, or changed very much.

Morgan sums up his estimation with a quote from a “senior Republican figure,” who told him during the Republican convention, “Mitt’s not the kind of guy you’d go for a beer with, mainly because he doesn’t drink beer. But he’s the kind of guy who gets stuff done.” If his editorial reflects a growing sentiment among Left-leaning persuadable voters, Obama is in deep trouble.


http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/15/piers-morgan-mitt-romney-might-just-save-america/


Just wanted everyone's opinion on the topic and title, which is merely a quote.
I've heard the "they are both puppets under the same puppet master" theory.

Hard to tell who to trust in all this.
But if seeing is believing, and impressions are worth anything,
I see America collapsing under our present administration.
I think we should all get out and vote for the candidate who appeals to our better judgment
...or cast our vote to tip the scales away from the one who appeals to us least.




msharmony's photo
Sat 10/27/12 04:35 PM








money will always run this country,, no matter how many political labels/ parties we try to create




I disagree, there are those who believe in country, life and liberty more then money. Not everyone can be bought, some have principles and morals to do the right thing.



those people no doubt exist, but I dont think they will make up the majority of any political party, because I dont think they make up the majority of the citizenry,,,


There is enough of em to do just that, problem is they are not on the take so they do not raise 500 million dollars like the top two candidates do therefore are unable to attract the attention needed to win an election. Part of this is apathy and laziness on the prat of voters who do not take time to look for alternatives. Most people are unaware that they have other choices, too busy watchin wheel of fortune and American idol I guess.


getting out and getting known is what helps 'raise' the money

OBama was not exactly a megamillionaire when he first ran, he got into senate and became well known,,,,





And now that he is known he is bought just like a majority of other big name politicians and part of problem, this obviously includes Romney.


but bought by whom? there are obviously many different people and insudtries donating to each candidate,,,

so which 'owners' should we be concerned about?


Look at their donors, its a whose who of corporations. This is who they work for and pass laws for, when a law is written by corporate lawyers and eventually signed by the president it does not bode well for us and this is what needs to stop. This is why 3rd party candidates MUST be included in all debates.



their donors are independent donors
and educational
and corporate
and military
and law

etc,,,

there are too many different sources to say which one will get a preference or which wont,, they all give big donations

boredinaz06's photo
Sat 10/27/12 06:13 PM









money will always run this country,, no matter how many political labels/ parties we try to create




I disagree, there are those who believe in country, life and liberty more then money. Not everyone can be bought, some have principles and morals to do the right thing.



those people no doubt exist, but I dont think they will make up the majority of any political party, because I dont think they make up the majority of the citizenry,,,


There is enough of em to do just that, problem is they are not on the take so they do not raise 500 million dollars like the top two candidates do therefore are unable to attract the attention needed to win an election. Part of this is apathy and laziness on the prat of voters who do not take time to look for alternatives. Most people are unaware that they have other choices, too busy watchin wheel of fortune and American idol I guess.


getting out and getting known is what helps 'raise' the money

OBama was not exactly a megamillionaire when he first ran, he got into senate and became well known,,,,





And now that he is known he is bought just like a majority of other big name politicians and part of problem, this obviously includes Romney.


but bought by whom? there are obviously many different people and insudtries donating to each candidate,,,

so which 'owners' should we be concerned about?


Look at their donors, its a whose who of corporations. This is who they work for and pass laws for, when a law is written by corporate lawyers and eventually signed by the president it does not bode well for us and this is what needs to stop. This is why 3rd party candidates MUST be included in all debates.



their donors are independent donors
and educational
and corporate
and military
and law

etc,,,

there are too many different sources to say which one will get a preference or which wont,, they all give big donations


I know military made up Ron Paul top 3 donors, but I don't know about military donating to either Obama or Romney.

The top two candidates top 10 donors are all corporate.

Tell me why you don 't have a problem with mega corporations donating to campaigns?

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/27/12 10:05 PM










money will always run this country,, no matter how many political labels/ parties we try to create




I disagree, there are those who believe in country, life and liberty more then money. Not everyone can be bought, some have principles and morals to do the right thing.



those people no doubt exist, but I dont think they will make up the majority of any political party, because I dont think they make up the majority of the citizenry,,,


There is enough of em to do just that, problem is they are not on the take so they do not raise 500 million dollars like the top two candidates do therefore are unable to attract the attention needed to win an election. Part of this is apathy and laziness on the prat of voters who do not take time to look for alternatives. Most people are unaware that they have other choices, too busy watchin wheel of fortune and American idol I guess.


getting out and getting known is what helps 'raise' the money

OBama was not exactly a megamillionaire when he first ran, he got into senate and became well known,,,,





And now that he is known he is bought just like a majority of other big name politicians and part of problem, this obviously includes Romney.


but bought by whom? there are obviously many different people and insudtries donating to each candidate,,,

so which 'owners' should we be concerned about?


Look at their donors, its a whose who of corporations. This is who they work for and pass laws for, when a law is written by corporate lawyers and eventually signed by the president it does not bode well for us and this is what needs to stop. This is why 3rd party candidates MUST be included in all debates.



their donors are independent donors
and educational
and corporate
and military
and law

etc,,,

there are too many different sources to say which one will get a preference or which wont,, they all give big donations


I know military made up Ron Paul top 3 donors, but I don't know about military donating to either Obama or Romney.

The top two candidates top 10 donors are all corporate.

Tell me why you don 't have a problem with mega corporations donating to campaigns?



I dont have a problem so long as there is diversity in the donations


here is the info from open secrets

Obama top 5

u of california
Microsoft
Google
US govt
Harvard university



Romney top 5

Goldman Sachs
Bk of America
Morgan Stanley
JP Morgan
Credit Suisse group

Paul top 5

Army
Navy
Air Force
Google
Dpt of Defense





TOP 5 by industry

Obama

Retire
Law
Education
Health Professionals
Business Services




Romney

Retired
Security/investment
Real Estate
Law
Health Professionals



Paul

Retired
msc business
Health Professionals
computers
other



,,,,,so it seems pretty diverse to me (well, at least paul and obama do)


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Mon 10/29/12 09:15 AM

Chazster's photo
Mon 10/29/12 10:09 AM

Do right wingers ever have any ideas of their own, or can they only cut and paste?


Because the left wingers on this site never ever cut and past?
rofl

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Mon 10/29/12 10:22 AM
We all know that our politicians, even at the state level, are bought, paid for, and played with, like so many chess pieces.


What we should really be disgusted with is how cheap they can actually be purchased.

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