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| Topic: Justice for Unarmed Student Shot to Death by Cop | |
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While growing up my step mom was a LVN for over 25 years. The stories we heard about teenagers and young adults being admitted to the hospital due to tripping on drugs was unreal. There was many that it took them four days before they came all the way down. She told us about them coming in having to tie them down after it took four people to take them down, too telling us about one 18 year old that cut off his privates. Thought it was a snake. They just totally flip many in the process hurting others and getting hurt. Many never remembered what happened...
With the way the kid was acting I would take that he was on something. I don't know that for sure but if not then something went way wrong somewhere... Even the witness said the officer tried many times by asking him to stop and he keep charging the officer.. Myself I would have done the same thing the officer did here......who knows if the kid would have gotten the gun away from the officer then what? |
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I still dont believe that merely asking someone to stop justified deadly force,, thats just me
I believe there should have been at least one or two other steps between asking him to stop and shooting him dead... |
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I still dont believe that merely asking someone to stop justified deadly force,, thats just me I believe there should have been at least one or two other steps between asking him to stop and shooting him dead... He asked him to stop several times. Those are the other steps. |
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I still dont believe that merely asking someone to stop justified deadly force,, thats just me I believe there should have been at least one or two other steps between asking him to stop and shooting him dead... He asked him to stop several times. Those are the other steps. nice precedent teen comes in late and argues with you say you feel threatened, ask them to stop a couple times and then go on and kill em,,,, |
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People who have never actually shot a pistol think it's easy to just do it, point and shoot. Movies make it look easy. I dont know how 'campus' police work. I also have not shot a gun. But I can use common sense. To believe that the only option one has is to shoot, because they cant aim, doesnt hold water with me. IF I can point my finger in the direction I Want the bullet to go, I may not hit a bullseye, but Im gonna hit in THAT DIRECTION. THe issue however is not about people who havent shot guns, its about TRAINED AUTHORITY. I HAVE been to a police training session and SEEN the training they receive on shooting a gun. THey get a split second to decide who and where to shoot. THat is their job,, unlike a novice without a gun. IT is a shame that anyone would be in such a position and not have the proper training to make such decisions in threatening situations,, which if we are to be honest, is what they are being Hired and PAID to do. few criminals are gonna give you a chance to AIM if aiming is something that trips you up perhaps policing isnt the line of work for ya,,, thats all im saying |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 10/08/12 06:59 PM
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People who have never actually shot a pistol think it's easy to just do it, point and shoot. Movies make it look easy. I dont know how 'campus' police work. I also have not shot a gun. But I can use common sense. To believe that the only option one has is to shoot, because they cant aim, doesnt hold water with me. IF I can point my finger in the direction I Want the bullet to go, I may not hit a bullseye, but Im gonna hit in THAT DIRECTION. THe issue however is not about people who havent shot guns, its about TRAINED AUTHORITY. I HAVE been to a police training session and SEEN the training they receive on shooting a gun. THey get a split second to decide who and where to shoot. THat is their job,, unlike a novice without a gun. IT is a shame that anyone would be in such a position and not have the proper training to make such decisions in threatening situations,, which if we are to be honest, is what they are being Hired and PAID to do. few criminals are gonna give you a chance to AIM if aiming is something that trips you up perhaps policing isnt the line of work for ya,,, thats all im saying nope noone here has been president but they dont seem to have a shortage of opinions about how a president should behave and what they should accomplish nope, never shot a gun, never want to, and still will never follow the trend giving free pass to anyone with a gun to take the lives of those who make them feel 'threatened' and especially if that threat is one they introduce by being the only one HAVING THE GUN,,,, |
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Good news. If you and or your child was in harms way by someone else and I could not not stop that person, I would not hesitate to protect you at what ever cost.
Even if I didn't know you. Even if it was some stupid college freshman who messed up and allowed himself to no longer be in control of himself for a few hours due to drugs. And as you pick up your bleeding but living child, it wont matter to me if you thank me or curse me. Cause I did the right thing. And, in advance, your welcome. |
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I still dont believe that merely asking someone to stop justified deadly force,, thats just me I believe there should have been at least one or two other steps between asking him to stop and shooting him dead... He asked him to stop several times. Those are the other steps. nice precedent teen comes in late and argues with you say you feel threatened, ask them to stop a couple times and then go on and kill em,,,, A completely meaningless argument. If a policeman views you as a threat and asks (commands) you to stop, get down, stop moving, put your hands in the air, or anything similar several times ... and you refused to obey, you are going to die. That is the real world. You can fantasize all you want about how you think it should be but you are wrong and it will never be that way. If you are lucky, you will get tazered. |
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If there was an alternative to shooting the person, then why wasn't it used instead?
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Good news. If you and or your child was in harms way by someone else and I could not not stop that person, I would not hesitate to protect you at what ever cost. Even if I didn't know you. Even if it was some stupid college freshman who messed up and allowed himself to no longer be in control of himself for a few hours due to drugs. And as you pick up your bleeding but living child, it wont matter to me if you thank me or curse me. Cause I did the right thing. And, in advance, your welcome. A real man. 
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People who have never actually shot a pistol think it's easy to just do it, point and shoot. Movies make it look easy. I dont know how 'campus' police work. I also have not shot a gun. But I can use common sense. To believe that the only option one has is to shoot, because they cant aim, doesnt hold water with me. IF I can point my finger in the direction I Want the bullet to go, I may not hit a bullseye, but Im gonna hit in THAT DIRECTION. THe issue however is not about people who havent shot guns, its about TRAINED AUTHORITY. I HAVE been to a police training session and SEEN the training they receive on shooting a gun. THey get a split second to decide who and where to shoot. THat is their job,, unlike a novice without a gun. IT is a shame that anyone would be in such a position and not have the proper training to make such decisions in threatening situations,, which if we are to be honest, is what they are being Hired and PAID to do. few criminals are gonna give you a chance to AIM if aiming is something that trips you up perhaps policing isnt the line of work for ya,,, thats all im saying lol i just read this. the bold part is not correct. with or without training, when you fire a weapon the bullet doesn't travel in a perfectly straight line. plus if you are two feet from the target and are off aim by one degree, there is a strong chance you will hit close to where you are aiming. if you are two hundred feet from the target and are off aim by one degree, there is a strong chance you will miss the target totally. if you draw a straight line and then draw a line one degree off of the straight line from the same starting point, you will see that the closer to the starting point, the closer the lines are. the further away from the starting point you go, the further away the lines are 
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If there was an alternative to shooting the person, then why wasn't it used instead? I'm wondering the same. If this was a whacked out, high kid then why not taze him down and throw him in a drunk tank to face the judge in the morning... seems his life is, was invaluable. One strike..boom, your out. Seems harsh to me, but that's just me. |
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If there was an alternative to shooting the person, then why wasn't it used instead? I'm wondering the same. If this was a whacked out, high kid then why not taze him down and throw him in a drunk tank to face the judge in the morning... seems his life is, was invaluable. One strike..boom, your out. Seems harsh to me, but that's just me. his life has/had the same value as everyone else... as for the tazing, probably due to funding. tazers costs money. training costs money. add in that a person whacked out on drugs will not be able to rationalize like a sober person, will not feel pain like a sober person, and will sometimes be way stronger than when they are sober. dealing with such a person one on one is a disadvantage to the sober person. if there were enough trained security personal, with enough equipment, and enough training, maybe the taze him down and over power him would work. better yet, if the person wouldn't get whacked out on drugs, the situation would be avoided all together |
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