No, you didn't. But I'm just saying the grief you are feeling is that maybe you all are discerning in who you are pursuing.

See, trying to have an honest discussion on the board and this is what happens!

Thanks, BayAreaGal.

Baygirl wrote:
“No no...Women KNOW who the players are.”

Alright then. I never want to hear about a woman who gets burned by a player ever again!

So there! :sticks out tongue:

Who said I was feeling greif???????

Abra writes:

Native_Grl wrote:
“Well they have to date somebody and usually it's men...so it must be a 50/50 thing at least!!!!!!!!!”

Nope not true at all.


Well...there is some truth to Native's observation!!



Since women wait to be hit on, they only date men who hit on them.


False assumption. There are many women - very hot and desirable and intelligent and awesome women - who make the first move!





The men who hit on them are most often the insincere players.



But women are onto the players in a flash....and poof, the
players are eliminated from the competition...










The sincere men are too shy to be hitting on women so actively.


Except for the brave ones...



So it’s like 90% of the women are going out with the same 10% of players.

Except the players were already weeded out in step 1 above!



IT’S TRUE!

Except maybe it's NOT!


Then women think that ALL MEN are insincere jerks because they only have experience with the worst 10% of the male population.

No, men are dogs. Players are insincere jerks! Woof. woof. woof!

LOL Abra!

Well...I guess you just have to know your own motivations. I think the ones who want a real, sustainable relationship are the ones who feel the most grief.

I can understand that sentiment, but it's also a fact of online dating. You just take the good parts and ignore the rest. We would not still be on here if we didn't think aspects of this site were worth it, right?

wtf are you people talking about, this is like the pity party for all men who are single, there are more women in the world than men just fyi! and at the college i went to women were 3 for every 1 guy, my advice is to grow some balls and drop your numbers

And because women
get lied to and
burned by the playas....

(drum roll please)

Then they eventually
come to the conclusion
that all men are jerks!

(Revelation, the heavens open up...)

and whether they think men are jerks or not they continue to date men, they don't all become lesbians or a sexual...

drop our numbers? murder the competition. whole new meaning to only the strong survive. lol

lol well sometimes you have to make a move, or attempt to get to know a female otherwise you won't get a freakin date! i mean really this is silly if you want a date you can get a date point blank.

Exactly. A date is one thing, but a realtionship is another.

it's just as easy for guys as women.
if the woman is on a date 10 to 1 it is with a guy..
who is also on a date.
i have been plenty of places and never got a date!!!!!!!!!!

S1owhand wrote:
“The sincere men are too shy to be hitting on women so actively.
Except for the brave ones...”

Well if the brave men are hitting on women so *actively* wouldn’t that automatically make them “players”?

What exactly is a *player* anyway? I think you’re confusing the term player with men who are only out for sex. Any man who is dating a lot of women just to *play* is a *player* whether he’s seeking sex or not. If he’s not seeking a LONG-TERM relationship then he’s just seeking PLAY,

So if he’s so brave why doesn’t he just hit on ONE woman that he wants to have a long-term commitment with and be done with it??????

There’s no such thing as a *sincere man* ACTIVELY HITTING ON WOMEN. That’s an oxymoron!

If he’s that sincere he’s only going to hit on women that he’s genuinely interested in a long-term relationship with and therefore he shouldn’t be ACTIVE for very long. If he’s continually ACTIVE in the dating scene then he’s automatically a PLAYER by the very definition of what it means to PLAY.

So I disagree with you rebuttal obviously. (ha ha)

because he is married

i agree joyce , not to mention i've left my number for the waiter a few times lol! or tottaly flirted out of place, when i met my fiancee.. who i was engaged to he bought something from teh place i worked, and he asked me for a date if he would have never asked that we wouldnt' have gone anywhere you have to put yourself out there the worst that can happen is the chick says no... and you're gonna get a " no" if you don't ask to begin with ... but dont sit and say oh theres plenty of men no women, bc i am a single for intelligent young woman and i do not have a bf i have been dumped plenty and done the dumping and i have not dated players and i don't think all men are jerks, i also don't think getting a man is what life is all about really concentrate on career goals, family friends, until you find someone worth integrating into your life.

I don't know, Abra.

A man can have sincere intentions and "actively" seek multiple women to get to know. It's the real reason behind his "hitting on women" that's the real question.

If he really has no intenion to carry something forward with someone, then that's playing. But if he's sincere about seeing if something could develop, then there's nothing wrong with pursuing a few at a time. That's what "dating" is all about, anyway, isn't it?

Sometimes it depends on where you live.

I once went into a bar in Cali
and there was all women, no men
in the bar but me.

Huh? I said to myself.

Then, just a few seconds later
the head slap comes.