Topic: Relationships, Money, and stability
Ruth34611's photo
Thu 08/23/12 02:53 PM

Unless you plan on living in the woods off of the land money is needed to survive. Love doesn't feed you or keep a roof over your head.


And, I agree with this.

I totally get what you are saying. Both people have to work together to meet your physical needs. Of course, if one person gets sick or loses their job through no fault of their own or whatever.....you stick together if you really love each other. But, I don't think that's what the OP was talking about. Money is important because food and shelter are important.

andrewzooms's photo
Thu 08/23/12 02:57 PM
Money is so important in a relationship. The freedom of going anywhere you want and doing whatever you want. Women want stability. No one wants to count pennies and have to analyze every transaction. Living paycheck to paycheck is very stressful when in a relationship. Having the ability to take the wife or girlfriend and treat her like a queen is something I miss. Being poor sucks.

Ladywind7's photo
Thu 08/23/12 03:11 PM
'I have been poor. I have been rich. Being rich is far better' quote by Mae West.

Goofball73's photo
Thu 08/23/12 05:23 PM
For the love of money is the root of all evil. Hmmmm. I guess I'm evil then. :tongue: pitchfork

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Thu 08/23/12 05:36 PM
Money is necessary, it only becomes evil if you let it.....

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 08/23/12 05:44 PM

Most women do not want to have to support a man. I say...if you nothing to bring to the table... don't bother coming in.
I will not step back in my life. Meaning, I will not be as successful as I am in life only to take someone in and support them while they only bring laziness and possibly no job.



Well, why should a man have to support a woman? In this day and age, a woman can support herself. If a woman wishes to have a particular lifestyle, then she should finance it herself, instead of seeking a man who will finance it for her.

Or is sexual equality not supposed to be applied to finances?

pyxxie13's photo
Thu 08/23/12 08:18 PM


Most women do not want to have to support a man. I say...if you nothing to bring to the table... don't bother coming in.
I will not step back in my life. Meaning, I will not be as successful as I am in life only to take someone in and support them while they only bring laziness and possibly no job.



Well, why should a man have to support a woman? In this day and age, a woman can support herself. If a woman wishes to have a particular lifestyle, then she should finance it herself, instead of seeking a man who will finance it for her.

Or is sexual equality not supposed to be applied to finances?

Yes absolutely!!! I feel that swings both ways. I have yet to have a man support me and definitely would not want to feel dependent. A man should not have to support a woman any more than a woman a man. It is a partnership.

Kahurangi's photo
Thu 08/23/12 08:30 PM


Most women do not want to have to support a man. I say...if you nothing to bring to the table... don't bother coming in.
I will not step back in my life. Meaning, I will not be as successful as I am in life only to take someone in and support them while they only bring laziness and possibly no job.



Well, why should a man have to support a woman? In this day and age, a woman can support herself. If a woman wishes to have a particular lifestyle, then she should finance it herself, instead of seeking a man who will finance it for her.

Or is sexual equality not supposed to be applied to finances?


What's mine is mine...and what's yours is mine too! laugh

Of course i'm kidding...before that sends a few ******* in a tangle.

In this day and age Dodo...a woman is "expected" to contribute financially to the household and relationship. And most women that i know of do so, and in fact, most women i know are the driving force behind obtaining the necessities of maintaining the household.

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 08/23/12 08:31 PM
The only period in my life that a man was supporting me was the first four years after my daughters were born. Their father (my husband at the time) and I decided it was best for the children if I stayed home with them. I can honestly say that holding down a job Is waaaay easier than being a stay at home mom. Nonetheless, I wouldn't trade that time with my children for anything.

When they started school I went back to work full time.

Simonedemidova's photo
Thu 08/23/12 08:32 PM
Money and love have no comparison, love is invaluable it has no price

Kahurangi's photo
Thu 08/23/12 08:35 PM

Money and love have no comparison, love is invaluable it has no price


Yes...as long as both people are on the same page regarding money or love or both.

I think i just confused myself :-)

pyxxie13's photo
Thu 08/23/12 08:39 PM


Money and love have no comparison, love is invaluable it has no price


Yes...as long as both people are on the same page regarding money or love or both.

I think i just confused myself :-)

it's ok...as long as you have your own money!

Simonedemidova's photo
Thu 08/23/12 08:42 PM
Edited by Simonedemidova on Thu 08/23/12 08:43 PM
You should never rely on someone's income. It will destroy all things. Love is natural money in necessary but greed is evil

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Fri 08/24/12 11:44 AM




money is the root to all evil



That is a common misquote.

It's actually "For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil." 1 Timothy 6:10

Money itself is not good or evil. It's an inanimate object. It it when one loves money more than people that evil acts sometimes take place.


yep, I was putting my own spin on the quote


Then by your spin, poor people are good and rich people are evil? If money itself is evil, do you refuse to use the stuff? Is it just American money? What about a peso or a yen? What if one uses property to trade instead of money? Is it okay to trade my cow for a horse? Or is that going to cause evil as well?

The idea that a piece of paper we use as an exchange system being the root of all evil is absurd. Plenty of people go through life utilizing this exchange system without committing an evil act because of it. It is actually greed....an emotion, not an object, that causes people to commit evil acts. Desiring/loving something or someone to the point where you would hurt another human being to get it.


Hi Ruth, had to run and do some things, but think this topic is very important. Sorry if you didn't pick up on my meaning, I'll try to be more clear. The love of money would be the point of course. BTW way in the original translation of this passage the word money was not mentioned. A closer translation was worldly increase. Basically putting the things that don't matter for eternity above the things that do. The love of money is a good example, but it would have been nice if King James would have made this as wide as it should have been.

no photo
Fri 08/24/12 11:54 AM
Edited by mg1959 on Fri 08/24/12 11:55 AM

I agree with MG. When it comes to love, I wont put a price on it ever. For richer or poorer. Stability can change just like that and if the love is there, as a couple you can survive anything including hard times.


Yeppers!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxX-QOV9tI

no photo
Fri 08/24/12 11:56 AM


Most women do not want to have to support a man. I say...if you nothing to bring to the table... don't bother coming in.
I will not step back in my life. Meaning, I will not be as successful as I am in life only to take someone in and support them while they only bring laziness and possibly no job.



Well, why should a man have to support a woman? In this day and age, a woman can support herself. If a woman wishes to have a particular lifestyle, then she should finance it herself, instead of seeking a man who will finance it for her.

Or is sexual equality not supposed to be applied to finances?


I don't think she was saying that a man has to support a woman. I'd be happy as long as he had enough to support himself, just as I have enough to support myself.

no photo
Fri 08/24/12 12:37 PM
Millionaires don't actually impress me. They could have as many credit cards as the queen, but money is money. I can buy something that looks just as good as what THEY bought. You could rent a very cheap apartment, yet make it look expensive in the way you decorate it. I rely on MYSELF for everything. Not anyone else.

Goofball73's photo
Sat 08/25/12 07:17 AM
This thread made me think of Anna Nicole Smith. You remember when she was really hot and married that old dude who had money coming out of his old butt right? She swore that it was true love, and that money had nothing to do with it. I mean, she was telling the truth right? I'm sure his millions didn't factor into her falling for him. I'm sure had they been on Mingle they would have been the perfect Mutual Match.

Simonedemidova's photo
Sat 08/25/12 08:49 AM
I'm not gonna lie, I LOVE money! But I'm not rich, I know how to use it efficiently. It's a necessity in life. My kids and I need clothes and I know how to use money. I do love it and I wish we were rich. With or without a man! The only reason a man is important for the love, not his money. Women need compliments and want to be pampered, not with material things, although those are nice, but with gestures.

Ruth34611's photo
Sat 08/25/12 08:55 AM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Sat 08/25/12 08:56 AM


Hi Ruth, had to run and do some things, but think this topic is very important. Sorry if you didn't pick up on my meaning, I'll try to be more clear. The love of money would be the point of course. BTW way in the original translation of this passage the word money was not mentioned. A closer translation was worldly increase. Basically putting the things that don't matter for eternity above the things that do. The love of money is a good example, but it would have been nice if King James would have made this as wide as it should have been.


I totally agree. Actually, it would be nice had the rest of the Bible been translated better as well....but that's a whole other topic. laugh

The truth is that what it comes down to is an excessive love of SELF over others. When I think of the evil in this world I think of the following:

Child molestation
Robbery
Murder
Wars not fought for self defense
Physical, emotional and mental assaults and all the ways those are committed
Rape
Etc....

I look at all these and what they have in common is the person committing them wants what they want and they will have it at the expense of another person. Even something as simple as gossip and slander. The person who does this, does it because they need to feel superior in some way. It makes the person doing it feel good.

Okay, I'll get out of the pulpit now. Please leave donations at the door. :wink: