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Topic: Most Generous States in USA
Dodo_David's photo
Tue 08/21/12 04:07 PM


From ABC News:

Which states are more generous about giving money to charities? Red or blue states? A report by The Chronicle of Philanthropy, "How America Gives," uses the most recent available IRS data from 2008 to find out.

The answer, according to the report, is that people in Republican-leaning states give somewhat more, mostly because of religious ties. The Chronicle studied individual tax returns and studied demographic characteristics such as religion and political affiliation. The report found that states that were in favor of the 2008 presidential candidate John McCain gave higher percentages of discretionary income toward charities.


The Chronicle of Philanthropy website has a chart which show that residents of red states, in general, are more generous with their own money than residents of blue states.

Do these statistics mean anything significant?

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Tue 08/21/12 04:19 PM



From ABC News:

Which states are more generous about giving money to charities? Red or blue states? A report by The Chronicle of Philanthropy, "How America Gives," uses the most recent available IRS data from 2008 to find out.

The answer, according to the report, is that people in Republican-leaning states give somewhat more, mostly because of religious ties. The Chronicle studied individual tax returns and studied demographic characteristics such as religion and political affiliation. The report found that states that were in favor of the 2008 presidential candidate John McCain gave higher percentages of discretionary income toward charities.


The Chronicle of Philanthropy website has a chart which show that residents of red states, in general, are more generous with their own money than residents of blue states.

Do these statistics mean anything significant?




no.

motowndowntown's photo
Tue 08/21/12 04:37 PM
The results are somewhat skewed.

With the exception of a few states most of the states average out about the same around 4 to 4.5 percent.

HeadnHeart's photo
Tue 08/21/12 04:38 PM



From ABC News:

Which states are more generous about giving money to charities? Red or blue states? A report by The Chronicle of Philanthropy, "How America Gives," uses the most recent available IRS data from 2008 to find out.

The answer, according to the report, is that people in Republican-leaning states give somewhat more, mostly because of religious ties. The Chronicle studied individual tax returns and studied demographic characteristics such as religion and political affiliation. The report found that states that were in favor of the 2008 presidential candidate John McCain gave higher percentages of discretionary income toward charities.


The Chronicle of Philanthropy website has a chart which show that residents of red states, in general, are more generous with their own money than residents of blue states.

Do these statistics mean anything significant?



Maybe to the scammers on here. They should target the red states...greater % first laugh

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/21/12 04:47 PM



From ABC News:

Which states are more generous about giving money to charities? Red or blue states? A report by The Chronicle of Philanthropy, "How America Gives," uses the most recent available IRS data from 2008 to find out.

The answer, according to the report, is that people in Republican-leaning states give somewhat more, mostly because of religious ties. The Chronicle studied individual tax returns and studied demographic characteristics such as religion and political affiliation. The report found that states that were in favor of the 2008 presidential candidate John McCain gave higher percentages of discretionary income toward charities.


The Chronicle of Philanthropy website has a chart which show that residents of red states, in general, are more generous with their own money than residents of blue states.

Do these statistics mean anything significant?




no, but its nice to see people giving,,whatever their politics

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 08/22/12 12:15 PM
On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.

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Wed 08/22/12 01:04 PM

On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


Liberals want to give away other peoples money.

msharmony's photo
Wed 08/22/12 01:15 PM


On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


Liberals want to give away other peoples money.


I have to admit,, though in theory it is equal

Id have a hard time parting with 20 dollars if I was down to my last 100

and not as hard parting with 200 if I had 1000

and none at all parting with 2 million if I had 10


how much one is already struggling before they give, probably plays a factor,,,

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Wed 08/22/12 01:18 PM



On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


Liberals want to give away other peoples money.


I have to admit,, though in theory it is equal

Id have a hard time parting with 20 dollars if I was down to my last 100

and not as hard parting with 200 if I had 1000

and none at all parting with 2 million if I had 10


how much one is already struggling before they give, probably plays a factor,,,

One has to be poor to be a liberal?

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 08/22/12 01:28 PM




On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


Liberals want to give away other peoples money.


I have to admit,, though in theory it is equal

Id have a hard time parting with 20 dollars if I was down to my last 100

and not as hard parting with 200 if I had 1000

and none at all parting with 2 million if I had 10


how much one is already struggling before they give, probably plays a factor,,,

One has to be poor to be a liberal?


Of course, that's why they want to give away other's money.laugh

InvictusV's photo
Wed 08/22/12 01:38 PM



On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


Liberals want to give away other peoples money.


I have to admit,, though in theory it is equal

Id have a hard time parting with 20 dollars if I was down to my last 100

and not as hard parting with 200 if I had 1000

and none at all parting with 2 million if I had 10


how much one is already struggling before they give, probably plays a factor,,,


the three poorest states are:

1. Mississippi 2. Arkansas 3. Tennessee

seems as though all 3 are well above the liberal state average..



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Wed 08/22/12 01:41 PM



On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


Liberals want to give away other peoples money.


I have to admit,, though in theory it is equal

Id have a hard time parting with 20 dollars if I was down to my last 100

and not as hard parting with 200 if I had 1000

and none at all parting with 2 million if I had 10


how much one is already struggling before they give, probably plays a factor,,,

If I had 10 million I would be pretty mad if Someone took 2 million. That's a lot of money.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 08/22/12 01:43 PM
Here is an excerpt from the Chronicle of Philanthropy report "America's Generosity Divide":

The rich aren’t the most generous. Middle-class Amer­i­cans give a far bigger share of their discretionary income to charities than the rich. Households that earn $50,000 to $75,000 give an average of 7.6 percent of their discretionary income to charity, compared with an average of 4.2 percent for people who make $100,000 or more. In the Washington metropolitan area, for example, low- and middle-income communities like Suitland, Md., and Capitol Heights, Md., donate a much bigger share of discretionary income than do wealthier communities like Bethesda, Md., and McLean, Va.


So, the difference in giving between blue states and red states isn't due to a difference in income level.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 08/22/12 02:17 PM
The Chronicle of Philanthropy's statistics are based on data pertaining to the year 2008.

According to those statistics, the state of Mississippi was the 2nd most generous state in 2008 in regards to charitable giving.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in the year 2008, the state of Mississippi was ranked #1 in poverty level, meaning that the state had the most people living below poverty level.

In contrast, the state of New Hampshire was ranked #50 in charitable giving and ranked #50 in poverty level.

So, the poorest state gave the second highest amount of charitable giving. The richest state gave the least in charitable giving.

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Wed 08/22/12 02:58 PM

On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


So, you are saying the poorest states have more conservatives and the richer states are more liberals? Please provide a more current viable link to prove if that is true.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 08/22/12 03:45 PM


On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


So, you are saying the poorest states have more conservatives and the richer states are more liberals? Please provide a more current viable link to prove if that is true.

I did not make such a claim.

Since the statistics used by the Chronicle of Philanthropy date back to 2008, I used poverty statistics for 2008 provided by the U.S. government. I also provided links to my sources.

Those statistics show that the most generous people are not necessarily the wealthiest.

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 08/22/12 03:55 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Wed 08/22/12 03:59 PM
Here is the chart provided by the Chronicle of Philanthropy:



So, in 2008, the poorest state gave the second highest amount of charitable giving. The richest state gave the least in charitable giving.

Why is that?

Town Hall columnist Jeff Jacoby answers:

Of course this doesn't mean that there aren't generous philanthropists in New England. It doesn't mean selfishness is unknown on the right. What it does mean is that where people are encouraged to think that solving society's ills is primarily a job for government, charity tends to evaporate. The politics of "compassion" isn't the same as compassionate behavior. America's generosity divide separates those who understand the difference from those who don't.

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Wed 08/22/12 04:00 PM



On his website, U.S. radio personality Neal Boortz says the following about the statistics cited in the OP.

A new study has been released by the Chronicle of Philanthropy on charitable giving in the United States. Based on IRS data from 2008, what it boils down to is this: Conservatives are more charitable people. They voluntarily give away more of their earnings than liberals.


So, you are saying the poorest states have more conservatives and the richer states are more liberals? Please provide a more current viable link to prove if that is true.

I did not make such a claim.

Since the statistics used by the Chronicle of Philanthropy date back to 2008, I used poverty statistics for 2008 provided by the U.S. government. I also provided links to my sources.

Those statistics show that the most generous people are not necessarily the wealthiest.

Then your denial of claim and use of outdated statistics cannot be used as proof for your post.huh

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 08/22/12 04:41 PM

The Chronicle of Philanthropy's statistics are based on data pertaining to the year 2008.

According to those statistics, the state of Mississippi was the 2nd most generous state in 2008 in regards to charitable giving.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in the year 2008, the state of Mississippi was ranked #1 in poverty level, meaning that the state had the most people living below poverty level.

In contrast, the state of New Hampshire was ranked #50 in charitable giving and ranked #50 in poverty level.

So, the poorest state gave the second highest amount of charitable giving. The richest state gave the least in charitable giving.



oops I erred. In 2008, the state of Mississippi had the highest percentage of people living below the U.S. poverty level, not the most people living below the U.S. poverty level.

no photo
Wed 08/22/12 04:48 PM


The Chronicle of Philanthropy's statistics are based on data pertaining to the year 2008.

According to those statistics, the state of Mississippi was the 2nd most generous state in 2008 in regards to charitable giving.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, in the year 2008, the state of Mississippi was ranked #1 in poverty level, meaning that the state had the most people living below poverty level.

In contrast, the state of New Hampshire was ranked #50 in charitable giving and ranked #50 in poverty level.

So, the poorest state gave the second highest amount of charitable giving. The richest state gave the least in charitable giving.



oops I erred. In 2008, the state of Mississippi had the highest percentage of people living below the U.S. poverty level, not the most people living below the U.S. poverty level.

well now, that's more like it. :thumbsup:

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