Topic: Strange encounter with an abductee.
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Sat 05/04/13 01:54 PM
The overall galaxy aliens intentions, (according to Val Valerian,) is the covert takeover of the earth for the purpose of using it for trade routes through the galaxy if I remember right. Val is the author of the Matrix books and his website is trufax.org. He wrote a book called "The Abduction and manipulation of humans using advanced technology."




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Sat 05/04/13 02:26 PM
Earth is on THEIR Route to smuggle SPICE!noway

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Sat 05/04/13 03:53 PM
According to him, the New World Order will be very short lived.


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Sun 05/05/13 10:50 AM

The overall galaxy aliens intentions, (according to Val Valerian,) is the covert takeover of the earth for the purpose of using it for trade routes through the galaxy if I remember right. Val is the author of the Matrix books and his website is trufax.org. He wrote a book called "The Abduction and manipulation of humans using advanced technology."






Ummmm, sounds like the original storyline from 'A Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy"; Earth was in the way of a Galactic Highway route and had to be removed...laugh

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Sun 05/05/13 11:38 AM


The overall galaxy aliens intentions, (according to Val Valerian,) is the covert takeover of the earth for the purpose of using it for trade routes through the galaxy if I remember right. Val is the author of the Matrix books and his website is trufax.org. He wrote a book called "The Abduction and manipulation of humans using advanced technology."






Ummmm, sounds like the original storyline from 'A Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy"; Earth was in the way of a Galactic Highway route and had to be removed...laugh



That of course is always an option.


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Sun 05/05/13 11:46 AM

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laugh laugh :tongue:

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Thu 05/09/13 07:05 PM
Edited by pixelspasm on Thu 05/09/13 07:06 PM
I'm a filmmaker and former field investigator for the Mutual UFO Network.

I've encountered people who were, as you say, "repeaters". That is, they claim to have repeat visitations with aliens of various descriptions. Some claim they suddenly found themselves being experimented on in underground bases, etc.

I can't say for sure if these people are "crazy" in the usual sense of the word, but I believe most or all or them were the victims of repeated childhood sexual abuse. This can cause psychotic breaks and traumatic dissociation later in life that might somehow explain what the fragile mental state of the repeaters.

Does anyone else here know of repeaters or alien encounters that can be scientifically verified? (all silly jokes aside please)

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Thu 05/09/13 08:02 PM


I was in a thrift store with a friend and we were talking about tarot cards and we were over heard by a strange fellow who followed us to our car.

He was clearly what you would call one of those "crazy" people you see on the street. He kept babbling about having been abducted by aliens and talking about all the strange things they did to him on the ship. He insisted that he was a "repeater" which means that he is repeatedly abducted. He claimed that they severed one of his arms and then put it back on again.

He described several different kinds of aliens he had seen on the ships. He went into quite a bit of detail. It began to creep me out because I had read a lot about that same stuff from other abductees via internet forums. I thought he might have read some stuff too and was just making it all up.

But he was very convincing and he did not look like the type who had a computer. He looked homeless. I told him that those aliens were not his friends. Every time I told him that, he asked, "Who told you that?"

I find that abductees often are convinced into thinking that the aliens that kidnap them against their will are "our friends."

I decided I did not want to hang around with that guy if he was a repeater. If you are caught with one of those guys when they are taken again, they could take you along with them.

Rule #1

Don't hang out with abductees who are repeatedly abducted. They have tracking devices on them.








Wow! I will keep that in mind if I run into someone like that. Thanks!

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Thu 05/09/13 08:14 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 05/09/13 08:15 PM

I'm a filmmaker and former field investigator for the Mutual UFO Network.

I've encountered people who were, as you say, "repeaters". That is, they claim to have repeat visitations with aliens of various descriptions. Some claim they suddenly found themselves being experimented on in underground bases, etc.

I can't say for sure if these people are "crazy" in the usual sense of the word, but I believe most or all or them were the victims of repeated childhood sexual abuse. This can cause psychotic breaks and traumatic dissociation later in life that might somehow explain what the fragile mental state of the repeaters.

Does anyone else here know of repeaters or alien encounters that can be scientifically verified? (all silly jokes aside please)



I don't think you can explain away the experience of these "alien" (or other) abductions with the theory that they were victims of repeated childhood sexual abuse.

But Trauma-based mind control like MK Ultra is pretty much a known fact now, and rather or not you want to believe aliens are involved or not, the trauma-base mind control techniques are perhaps even more shocking than alien abductions.

Trauma-based mind control splinters the psyche and the splintered psyche's can be programmed like a computer to do things and remember things that a normal person can't.

Memories can be altered, and erased.





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Thu 05/09/13 08:17 PM
It’s on public record that MK ULTRA, the mind control research which CIA director Admiral Stansfield Turner admitted to in 1977 spent millions of dollars studying Voodoo, witchcraft, and psychics. On August 3, 1977, at a Senate hearing the then CIA director Admiral Stansfield Turner disclosed that the CIA had been conducting mind control on countless numbers of unsuspecting victims for years, without their knowledge or consent.

These CIA mind-control operations were carried out with the participation of a least 185 scientists and at least 80 American institutions, including prisons, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, and 44 medical colleges & universities. Many of America’s most prestigious institutes of medical research, had cooperated with the CIA. as well as numerous big name corporations.

Casey admitted that day that the CIA did mind-control consisting of drugs, hypnosis & electro-shock. A few of the victims of the Monarch Project were even awarded financial compensation for their misery.

But what was admitted was admitted in the spirit of covering up the extent of the full truth. The compensation was actually hush money, because victims were given "gag orders" by judges not to talk about what had happened to them.

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Mon 09/09/13 08:49 PM
I was thinking of Dr Jacobs with refence to the brainwashing which is done to many abductees who now want to be refered to as "experiencers"
Jacobs has nailed it from a simple human rights perspective.

Bye the way, I spoke with him at the recent annual Mufon Conference...he states within not to many generations all of us, he believes, will be hybrids. That can be calculated by following family trees as they spread out with each forthcoming generation.

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Mon 09/09/13 08:56 PM
The Allies of Humanity (vols. l ans 2) which is channeled materials from a friendly alien group, which does not regularly make contact with us, describes trade routes as the reason why several alien races are here. They do, apparently have to abide by some rules and can not invade the planet. (they can simply manipulate us, with trades of humans to experiment on with futuristic hi-tech stuff for the U.S. Army and our intelligence organizations.

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Mon 09/09/13 08:58 PM

I'm a filmmaker and former field investigator for the Mutual UFO Network.

I've encountered people who were, as you say, "repeaters". That is, they claim to have repeat visitations with aliens of various descriptions. Some claim they suddenly found themselves being experimented on in underground bases, etc.

I can't say for sure if these people are "crazy" in the usual sense of the word, but I believe most or all or them were the victims of repeated childhood sexual abuse. This can cause psychotic breaks and traumatic dissociation later in life that might somehow explain what the fragile mental state of the repeaters.

Does anyone else here know of repeaters or alien encounters that can be scientifically verified? (all silly jokes aside please)

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Mon 09/09/13 09:17 PM
I am a 5-decade student of Ufology as well as a 4-decade psychotherapist. I participated in a recent MUFON study and am familiar with the prior hs of psych diagnosis re abduction reports.
In general the abductees do not show any signs of psychopathology outside of the norms for the general population...with one exception, they tend to carry he symptoms of PTSD. These folks, in general, tend to be fully functioning people and in my personal experience the people I have seen include people with PhD's and other educational accomplishments who are fully functional people.
There is, however a higher incidence of folks who had some kind of traumatic experimnce,in their childhood which, in my mind, suggests a broadening of our danger-awareness faculty. (hyper-arousal re potential danger.)
I have submitted a multiple choice test to the Mufon sub-committee studying abductees (which may now be defunct) which would measure, by multiple choice, the emotional perceptions of their abduction experiences.Following administration of that test, it might be interesting to correlate the place on the negativity-positivety (feelings) scale, to see if they correspond to any different personality types.

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Mon 09/09/13 09:17 PM
I am a 5-decade student of Ufology as well as a 4-decade psychotherapist. I participated in a recent MUFON study and am familiar with the prior hs of psych diagnosis re abduction reports.
In general the abductees do not show any signs of psychopathology outside of the norms for the general population...with one exception, they tend to carry he symptoms of PTSD. These folks, in general, tend to be fully functioning people and in my personal experience the people I have seen include people with PhD's and other educational accomplishments who are fully functional people.
There is, however a higher incidence of folks who had some kind of traumatic experimnce,in their childhood which, in my mind, suggests a broadening of our danger-awareness faculty. (hyper-arousal re potential danger.)
I have submitted a multiple choice test to the Mufon sub-committee studying abductees (which may now be defunct) which would measure, by multiple choice, the emotional perceptions of their abduction experiences.Following administration of that test, it might be interesting to correlate the place on the negativity-positivety (feelings) scale, to see if they correspond to any different personality types.

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Tue 09/10/13 12:27 AM

I am a 5-decade student of Ufology as well as a 4-decade psychotherapist. I participated in a recent MUFON study and am familiar with the prior hs of psych diagnosis re abduction reports.
In general the abductees do not show any signs of psychopathology outside of the norms for the general population...with one exception, they tend to carry he symptoms of PTSD. These folks, in general, tend to be fully functioning people and in my personal experience the people I have seen include people with PhD's and other educational accomplishments who are fully functional people.
There is, however a higher incidence of folks who had some kind of traumatic experimnce,in their childhood which, in my mind, suggests a broadening of our danger-awareness faculty. (hyper-arousal re potential danger.)
I have submitted a multiple choice test to the Mufon sub-committee studying abductees (which may now be defunct) which would measure, by multiple choice, the emotional perceptions of their abduction experiences.Following administration of that test, it might be interesting to correlate the place on the negativity-positivety (feelings) scale, to see if they correspond to any different personality types.



the aliens, if we can call them that, have been here for years, possibly 50,000 + years... too much evidence points towards it...

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Tue 09/10/13 05:52 AM

It’s on public record that MK ULTRA, the mind control research which CIA director Admiral Stansfield Turner admitted to in 1977 spent millions of dollars studying Voodoo, witchcraft, and psychics. On August 3, 1977, at a Senate hearing the then CIA director Admiral Stansfield Turner disclosed that the CIA had been conducting mind control on countless numbers of unsuspecting victims for years, without their knowledge or consent.

These CIA mind-control operations were carried out with the participation of a least 185 scientists and at least 80 American institutions, including prisons, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, and 44 medical colleges & universities. Many of America’s most prestigious institutes of medical research, had cooperated with the CIA. as well as numerous big name corporations.

Casey admitted that day that the CIA did mind-control consisting of drugs, hypnosis & electro-shock. A few of the victims of the Monarch Project were even awarded financial compensation for their misery.


But what was admitted was admitted in the spirit of covering up the extent of the full truth. The compensation was actually hush money, because victims were given "gag orders" by judges not to talk about what had happened to them.



Proof that Jeanie is an alien!!

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Tue 09/10/13 09:01 AM


It’s on public record that MK ULTRA, the mind control research which CIA director Admiral Stansfield Turner admitted to in 1977 spent millions of dollars studying Voodoo, witchcraft, and psychics. On August 3, 1977, at a Senate hearing the then CIA director Admiral Stansfield Turner disclosed that the CIA had been conducting mind control on countless numbers of unsuspecting victims for years, without their knowledge or consent.

These CIA mind-control operations were carried out with the participation of a least 185 scientists and at least 80 American institutions, including prisons, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, and 44 medical colleges & universities. Many of America’s most prestigious institutes of medical research, had cooperated with the CIA. as well as numerous big name corporations.

Casey admitted that day that the CIA did mind-control consisting of drugs, hypnosis & electro-shock. A few of the victims of the Monarch Project were even awarded financial compensation for their misery.


But what was admitted was admitted in the spirit of covering up the extent of the full truth. The compensation was actually hush money, because victims were given "gag orders" by judges not to talk about what had happened to them.



Proof that Jeanie is an alien!!


and that Torgo is a repeater....and likes it.

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Tue 09/10/13 10:08 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 09/10/13 10:13 AM

I was thinking of Dr Jacobs with refence to the brainwashing which is done to many abductees who now want to be refered to as "experiencers"
Jacobs has nailed it from a simple human rights perspective.

Bye the way, I spoke with him at the recent annual Mufon Conference...he states within not to many generations all of us, he believes, will be hybrids. That can be calculated by following family trees as they spread out with each forthcoming generation.



Creating hybrids is said to be one of the agenda's of some of the abductions. (Not all of them) Calling a victim of abduction an "experiencer" is a play on words and part of the brain washing.

In my opinion if a person does not give conscious consent to being kidnapped (taken against their conscious will) and experimented on -then they are being abducted.

If a human is kidnapped and raped and tortured by either another human or a group of humans or aliens, they are not "experiencers." They are victims of abduction. Experiencer? Yes I suppose you can call them that. They experienced being abducted. You can call a victiom of rape and torture and murder and experiencer too. Personally when I hear a person calling themselves and "experiencer" I assume that they have been abducted, brainwashed, and are working for the enemy. (the aliens) They are not our friends.

The reason for trying to create a human/alien hybrid, according to Val Valerian, has to do with the alien's inability to transcend into the higher densities of reality. (Ascension?) Another reason is that they want to create the ideal physical bodies that they can incarnate into and use to operate in physical reality. A pure human body cannot be manipulated or possessed as easily as an alien/human body can.