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Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:18 AM
Again, there was no time before Jesus. Jesus is our God, Jesus was Moses' God. Exodus 20:2 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Cowboy...that passage was referring to Jehovah The Father not Jesus ...Jesus wasn't even a sperm when Exodus took place Jesus is the only LORD, God there is. So no, was referring to Jesus before we came in the flesh. Jevohah is the Father...Jesus is the Son .....didn't they teach you this in Sunday School I didn't use to think that religion in public school was a good idea...until I started debating you ...you guys are just floating around without a clue about what is written in the bible

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:21 AM
Again, there was no time before Jesus. Jesus is our God, Jesus was Moses' God. Exodus 20:2 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Cowboy...that passage was referring to Jehovah The Father not Jesus ...Jesus wasn't even a sperm when Exodus took place Jesus is the only LORD, God there is. So no, was referring to Jesus before we came in the flesh. Jevohah is the Father...Jesus is the Son .....didn't they teach you this in Sunday School I didn't use to think that religion in public school was a good idea...until I started debating you ...you guys are just floating around without a clue about what is written in the bible What are you talking about? Why do you go entirely off topic out in left field? Yes Jesus is the Son. But we weren't talking about that, we were talking about the titles "God" and "LORD God".

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:24 AM
Yes God flooded the world because it had become tainted, but that doesn't have anything to do specifically with the children and babies, right...God just drown children and babies in the great flood because he like killing un-tainted babies ....

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:25 AM
Yes God flooded the world because it had become tainted, but that doesn't have anything to do specifically with the children and babies, right...God just drown children and babies in the great flood because he like killing un-tainted babies .... Ah, but they are not dead. They are in Heaven with him now.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:29 AM
What are you talking about? Why do you go entirely off topic out in left field? Yes Jesus is the Son. But we weren't talking about that, we were talking about the titles "God" and "LORD God". Exodus 20:2 I am Jehovah thy God, who have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage the passage was referring to the father not the son ....and you're to lazy to look this up?....as i said debating you and having to teach you about your own religion is making teaching religion in the public schools look better and better

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:31 AM
What are you talking about? Why do you go entirely off topic out in left field? Yes Jesus is the Son. But we weren't talking about that, we were talking about the titles "God" and "LORD God". Exodus 20:2 I am Jehovah thy God, who have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage the passage was referring to the father not the son ....and you're to lazy to look this up?....as i said debating you and having to teach you about your own religion is making teaching religion in the public schools look better and better And what translation of the scriptures are you using so I may please cross reference it? Exodus 20:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:31 AM
Yes God flooded the world because it had become tainted, but that doesn't have anything to do specifically with the children and babies, right...God just drown children and babies in the great flood because he like killing un-tainted babies .... Ah, but they are not dead. They are in Heaven with him now. do you have a webcam hooked to Heaven?..if not...then stop lying like you have a clue

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:34 AM
What are you talking about? Why do you go entirely off topic out in left field? Yes Jesus is the Son. But we weren't talking about that, we were talking about the titles "God" and "LORD God". Exodus 20:2 I am Jehovah thy God, who have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage the passage was referring to the father not the son ....and you're to lazy to look this up?....as i said debating you and having to teach you about your own religion is making teaching religion in the public schools look better and better And what translation of the scriptures are you using so I may please cross reference it? Exodus 20:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. It must be a newer translation of a translation because the word "Jehovah" is not in the original or older translations.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:37 AM
And what translation of the scriptures are you using so I may please cross reference it? Exodus 20:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. sorry Cowboy but even Jesus claimed that the Father is Lord as indicated in the passage below Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them unto babes. so who is wrong...you or Jesus?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:37 AM
Yes God flooded the world because it had become tainted, but that doesn't have anything to do specifically with the children and babies, right...God just drown children and babies in the great flood because he like killing un-tainted babies .... Ah, but they are not dead. They are in Heaven with him now. do you have a webcam hooked to Heaven?..if not...then stop lying like you have a clue No I don't have a cam in Heaven. But we have already been given this information. James 4:17 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. So us now knowing what a sin is, we now know all babies are pure and sinless. Therefore there is no reason for them not to be in Heaven with the father, as the only reward for sin is death. But the babies/children have not sinned.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:40 AM
And what translation of the scriptures are you using so I may please cross reference it? Exodus 20:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. sorry Cowboy but even Jesus claimed that the Father is Lord as indicated in the passage below Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them unto babes. so who is wrong...you or Jesus? Again in left field, that verse says nothing about "LORD God". You do realize God is a synonym for "lord" right? So yes, God would be also lord of Heaven and Earth, for he is God of Heaven and Earth and lord and God are synonyms. But again, that verse says nothing specifically about "LORD God". Jesus is the LORD God.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:42 AM
It must be a newer translation of a translation because the word "Jehovah" is not in the original or older translations. didn't we agree to use only the KJV...but you refuse to do so and proceeded to use the newer translations so now when I do it you start crying? Karma....pure Karma

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:44 AM
It must be a newer translation of a translation because the word "Jehovah" is not in the original or older translations. didn't we agree to use only the KJV...but you refuse to do so and proceeded to use the newer translations so now when I do it you start crying? Karma....pure Karma Yes we did, so why did you use a different translation? Here is a KJV translation of that verse as posted before. Exodus 20:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. No mention of Jehovah.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:46 AM
Yes God flooded the world because it had become tainted, but that doesn't have anything to do specifically with the children and babies, right...God just drown children and babies in the great flood because he like killing un-tainted babies .... Ah, but they are not dead. They are in Heaven with him now. do you have a webcam hooked to Heaven?..if not...then stop lying like you have a clue No I don't have a cam in Heaven. But we have already been given this information. James 4:17 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. So us now knowing what a sin is, we now know all babies are pure and sinless. Therefore there is no reason for them not to be in Heaven with the father, as the only reward for sin is death. But the babies/children have not sinned. a soul has no age...a tainted soul is a tainted soul...whether the soul was 1 week old or 1000 years old...why would time or the age matter to God....all God would see is a tainted soul this is why babies need to be saved or they go to the lake of fire as a tainted soul

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:48 AM
Yes God flooded the world because it had become tainted, but that doesn't have anything to do specifically with the children and babies, right...God just drown children and babies in the great flood because he like killing un-tainted babies .... Ah, but they are not dead. They are in Heaven with him now. do you have a webcam hooked to Heaven?..if not...then stop lying like you have a clue No I don't have a cam in Heaven. But we have already been given this information. James 4:17 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. So us now knowing what a sin is, we now know all babies are pure and sinless. Therefore there is no reason for them not to be in Heaven with the father, as the only reward for sin is death. But the babies/children have not sinned. a soul has no age...a tainted soul is a tainted soul...whether the soul was 1 week old or 1000 years old...why would time or the age matter to God....all God would see is a tainted soul this is why babies need to be saved or they go to the lake of fire as a tainted soul Babies souls are not tainted, you make a lot of false claims that you can't and don't back up. Show a verse that specifically says the children/babies souls are tainted. Babies/children are pure, they are innocent.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:52 AM
And what translation of the scriptures are you using so I may please cross reference it? Exodus 20:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. sorry Cowboy but even Jesus claimed that the Father is Lord as indicated in the passage below Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them unto babes. so who is wrong...you or Jesus? Again in left field, that verse says nothing about "LORD God". the passage you presented didn't say "Lord God"..it stated "Lord thy God" Cowboy...can you debate without resorting to lies?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:54 AM
Babies souls are not tainted, you make a lot of false claims that you can't and don't back up. Show a verse that specifically says the children/babies souls are tainted. Babies/children are pure, they are innocent. Cowboy...so you worship a God that only drown pure and innocent un-tainted babies?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:54 AM
And what translation of the scriptures are you using so I may please cross reference it? Exodus 20:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. sorry Cowboy but even Jesus claimed that the Father is Lord as indicated in the passage below Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them unto babes. so who is wrong...you or Jesus? Again in left field, that verse says nothing about "LORD God". the passage you presented didn't say "Lord God"..it stated "Lord thy God" Cowboy...can you debate without resorting to lies? That is the same thing lol. Come on Funches, you can do better then that.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sat 07/07/12 07:56 AM
Babies souls are not tainted, you make a lot of false claims that you can't and don't back up. Show a verse that specifically says the children/babies souls are tainted. Babies/children are pure, they are innocent. Cowboy...so you worship a God that only drown pure and innocent un-tainted babies? He gives those babies eternal life, and yes I do worship that ever loving God that does such a thing. So the babies had to go through trauma for 30 seconds to a minute to spend all eternity in love in the presence of the Father with not a worry in the world for ever.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 07/07/12 07:58 AM
And what translation of the scriptures are you using so I may please cross reference it? Exodus 20:2 King James Version (KJV) 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. sorry Cowboy but even Jesus claimed that the Father is Lord as indicated in the passage below Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them unto babes. so who is wrong...you or Jesus? Again in left field, that verse says nothing about "LORD God". the passage you presented didn't say "Lord God"..it stated "Lord thy God" Cowboy...can you debate without resorting to lies? That is the same thing lol. Come on Funches, you can do better then that. according to you it's not the same thing...if it was then why isn't it the same thing when Jesus called Jehovah Lord?