You're comparing apples and oranges again, or well taking what one says out of context.

I never said you had to have a personal relationship with someone you can't prove landed on the moon. That was no where near what I said. The man landing on the moon was PURELY of an example of something that is just "accepted" and can not be physically proven, except through video that could have been created on a computer. That was PURELY the reason behind mentioning landing on the moon. People take it as fact that it has happened, but again that is purely taken on faith. Because there is absolutely no way to physically prove it happened except through a third party video that again could have been made on a computer. It was only mentioned to show that people live on more "faith" then they believe they do. And just because people have chosen to put faith in God when they have not doesn't make them a delusional person. For again, there is no more evidence of the moon landing then there is for God.

BY JOVE I THINK HE'S GOT IT

and that is why trying to have a personal relationship with moon-landers, God or any other thing that can't be proved beyond a book is delusional

Nobody mentioned needing proof that humans exist. But the proof that Hitler existed and did what he did is taken on faith. For again, you can't possibly know for sure he did what he did without taking your knowledge from a third party, because you were not there. So once again, just as much evidence for the existence of Hitler and what he did as we do Jesus Christ and the authenticity in it all.

Hitler and Jesus were humans and neither did anything that was impossible for other humans to do.....therefore their existence and what they are accused of doing do not require Faith .....

in other words...there were many other Hitlers and Jesuses before those two jokers showed up

Hmm, so let me get this straight. All of the history we "know" today, is nothing but a bunch of delusions? There is no fact to them? Anything that is a fact today, will be a delusion tomorrow? Man, sounds delusional to me.

Sure their existence still requires faith. You were not there to witness Hitler, Jesus, or any other person/thing documented in history. Therefore it is taken on faith to be true, or to have ever even been an incident at all.

Faith is believing without seeing. It's not secluded to just spiritual things. It is relevant to anything and everything and what you place you're faith in.

Hitler and Jesus are only names attached to humans...you still haven't explained what Hitler and Jesus have done that other humans are incapable of doing ....Faith requires that you do ...if you can't...then there is no need for Faith concerning the exploits of those two humans

you mean like Columbus discovering a place where people already discovered

Faith isn't something magical, it's not fairy dust "wish and it will be granted". Faith is hope, desire, what you wish and or want to happen.

Sort of. The incident all in it's own is taken on faith. You have absolutely no idea if Columbus even existed. You are told he is so therefore history says he is. But nevertheless if that is a fact or not is taken on faith in your part, because again you have absolutely no way of knowing for absolute fact if Columbus even existed.

well use Faith to "wish" and or "want" proof that God exist beyond a book...

now let's see how long it takes you to do that

until then...it's delusional to makes claims that you are trying to have a personal relationship with an "unproven"

History books do not force Faith on it's readers....the bible does

You're missing the point entirely. Something is only proven to you when you place you faith in it being true. This applies to anything and everything.

You believe the world is round? This is only known by faith in pictures taken by a third party and third party sources, ect. The list goes on and on and on.

If it does not directly involve you, then it is taken on faith to being true. No matter how much "evidence" is shown, it is you place faith in the evidence being valid and authentic, and so on again.

The bible forces nothing, and again you're missing the point entirely. The faith lays in the authenticity of the history books. You placing your faith in them telling you the truth about what has happened in the past.

"believe" the world is round or "know" that the world is round

to believe is to doubt........funches 3:16

you can only have an "belief" in God because you "know" that he can not be prove to exist beyond a book

this is why Faith belongs only to the Agnostic

readers of History Books or even Comic Books do not make claims that they are books of Faith....but the readers of the Bible do make claim that the bible is a book of Faith

after reading it...what else can one say

And again, you can not prove the world is round beyond a book, you can not prove there are seven continents and most of the world is covered in water without a book. You can not prove anything that does not directly involve you without a book. But yet these things are taken as "fact". That is purely people putting faith in it being true. The world could truly be flat for all you truly know without putting faith in a third party's information.

No they do not claim anything. But nevertheless you have to put faith in the history book as being true or not, for you were not there to witness it first hand. Again, anything that does not involve you directly is taken on faith as being true.

Math can be used to prove that the Earth is round...those that have problems with Math can see that the shawdow of the Earth is round when it aligns between the moon and the sun ....therefore there is proof that the Earth is round beyond a book

whether the Earth is round or flat does not take away the fact that the Earth can be proved to exist beyond a book....but God can't