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Topic: Is there a god or nature which nourishes us
oldhippie1952 Joined Mon 03/14/11 Posts: 22693	Sun 05/20/12 04:59 PM
Evolution is just a theory. Where are all the fossils showing how we evolved? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fossil_hominids.jpg See believers have to start changing their tune when evidence becomes available from people who actually do something to prove that man has evolved other than just write in a book that a divine deity created everything.The church accepts evolution,it now accepts the possibility of outer space aliens.It has to cover it's tracks to keep the pews full. This display in the link doesn't prove God doesn't exist(because you can't prove something doesn't exist if it doesn't exist,example:unicorns)it does prove however that these paintings and pictures of Adam and Eve being beautiful looking modern type humans are false. You are referencing wikipedia which is known to be unreliable. I won't waste my time.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sun 05/20/12 05:23 PM
Evolution is just a theory. Where are all the fossils showing how we evolved? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fossil_hominids.jpg See believers have to start changing their tune when evidence becomes available from people who actually do something to prove that man has evolved other than just write in a book that a divine deity created everything.The church accepts evolution,it now accepts the possibility of outer space aliens.It has to cover it's tracks to keep the pews full. This display in the link doesn't prove God doesn't exist(because you can't prove something doesn't exist if it doesn't exist,example:unicorns)it does prove however that these paintings and pictures of Adam and Eve being beautiful looking modern type humans are false. You are referencing wikipedia which is known to be unreliable. I won't waste my time. Naw man i didn't post it for the article i posted it for the picture of the display of skulls wiki can't lie about the photo that display does exist in the Museum of Osteology in Oklahome City.

oldhippie1952 Joined Mon 03/14/11 Posts: 22693	Sun 05/20/12 06:38 PM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you?

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sun 05/20/12 07:29 PM Edited by RKISIT on Sun 05/20/12 07:35 PM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings?

oldhippie1952 Joined Mon 03/14/11 Posts: 22693	Sun 05/20/12 08:51 PM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings? Exactly my point. If I believe God exists than why would I believe in evolution? You will never find skeletons definitely linking men and apes/chimps/monkees because they don't exist. You need to concentrate on the DNA trail because it has a better chance of proving it than filled in skull fragments. JMO

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sun 05/20/12 09:30 PM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings? Exactly my point. If I believe God exists than why would I believe in evolution? You will never find skeletons definitely linking men and apes/chimps/monkees because they don't exist. You need to concentrate on the DNA trail because it has a better chance of proving it than filled in skull fragments. JMO It just doesn't show the link between ape and man it shows how man has evolved over time.This is just 1 display theres a bunch of other skeletal remains that have been found,this is just a tiny display.Dinosaur remains have been found so you gonna say dinosaurs didn't exist or you want DNA from them also?Evolution isn't a theory, doesn't a caterpillar evolve into a butterfly.

oldhippie1952 Joined Mon 03/14/11 Posts: 22693	Sun 05/20/12 09:40 PM
Evolution from apes is a theory. There is no link, yet, found to prove this theory has any basis in fact. If there was it would be all over the news.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sun 05/20/12 11:07 PM
Evolution from apes is a theory. There is no link, yet, found to prove this theory has any basis in fact. If there was it would be all over the news. It has made the news that we are a branch off of chimpanzees,i don't know i linked actual visual evidence noone can show me any physical evidence of God,no pictures of it.Anyways i'm tired to debate about the Abrahamic biblical God mythology maybe tomorrow i'll be on.

Seakolony Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 11968	Mon 05/21/12 03:10 AM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings? Exactly my point. If I believe God exists than why would I believe in evolution? You will never find skeletons definitely linking men and apes/chimps/monkees because they don't exist. You need to concentrate on the DNA trail because it has a better chance of proving it than filled in skull fragments. JMO There is not a link between human and primates.....but the of both to hominids..... http://www.npr.org/2009/10/01/113387960/move-over-lucy-ardi-may-be-oldest-human-ancestor

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 05/21/12 03:16 AM
Evolution from apes is a theory. There is no link, yet, found to prove this theory has any basis in fact. If there was it would be all over the news. I kind of thought evolution was a theory that we are more like apes cousins, than descendants? which would fall in line with Christianity in the sense that we did all start from the same source {parent)

Kahurangi Joined Thu 04/26/12 Posts: 1970	Mon 05/21/12 03:59 AM
Evolution from apes is a theory. There is no link, yet, found to prove this theory has any basis in fact. If there was it would be all over the news. I kind of thought evolution was a theory that we are more like apes cousins, than descendants? which would fall in line with Christianity in the sense that we did all start from the same source {parent) In a nutshell (only because i'm not in the mood for a long drawn out explanation where one becomes distracted by shiny things)...science and spirituality need to come together somewhere down the line...just don't count on it happening anytime soon. We're not ready for it.

Seakolony Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 11968	Mon 05/21/12 04:41 AM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings? Exactly my point. If I believe God exists than why would I believe in evolution? You will never find skeletons definitely linking men and apes/chimps/monkees because they don't exist. You need to concentrate on the DNA trail because it has a better chance of proving it than filled in skull fragments. JMO There is not a link between human and primates.....but the of both to hominids..... http://www.npr.org/2009/10/01/113387960/move-over-lucy-ardi-may-be-oldest-human-ancestor I completely believe science supports the bible just the human timeline is off......humans wrote the kinds of animals on earth.....god created all starting with hominids and dinosaur which evolved with the earth changes over time.....

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 05/21/12 07:25 AM Edited by RKISIT on Mon 05/21/12 07:35 AM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings? Exactly my point. If I believe God exists than why would I believe in evolution? You will never find skeletons definitely linking men and apes/chimps/monkees because they don't exist. You need to concentrate on the DNA trail because it has a better chance of proving it than filled in skull fragments. JMO There is not a link between human and primates.....but the of both to hominids..... http://www.npr.org/2009/10/01/113387960/move-over-lucy-ardi-may-be-oldest-human-ancestor I completely believe science supports the bible just the human timeline is off......humans wrote the kinds of animals on earth.....god created all starting with hominids and dinosaur which evolved with the earth changes over time..... Nice try Sea your taking what science has found and placing it into the bible,not science proven the bible correct.Actually congrats you are starting your own denomination with your interpretations i hope it works out,you do know me right when you start making the big bucks off your followers?I may actually come to see one of your services.So what are you going to name this new denomination?Heres a suggestion call it The Church of Seakologist

Seakolony Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 11968	Mon 05/21/12 08:11 AM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings? Exactly my point. If I believe God exists than why would I believe in evolution? You will never find skeletons definitely linking men and apes/chimps/monkees because they don't exist. You need to concentrate on the DNA trail because it has a better chance of proving it than filled in skull fragments. JMO There is not a link between human and primates.....but the of both to hominids..... http://www.npr.org/2009/10/01/113387960/move-over-lucy-ardi-may-be-oldest-human-ancestor I completely believe science supports the bible just the human timeline is off......humans wrote the kinds of animals on earth.....god created all starting with hominids and dinosaur which evolved with the earth changes over time..... Nice try Sea your taking what science has found and placing it into the bible,not science proven the bible correct.Actually congrats you are starting your own denomination with your interpretations i hope it works out,you do know me right when you start making the big bucks off your followers?I may actually come to see one of your services.So what are you going to name this new denomination?Heres a suggestion call it The Church of Seakologist You are too funny Eric......now you know I wouldn't have any money from it as I give it all away to help others.....I am doomed to philanthropy for life.....it is not a light undertaking you know

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 05/21/12 08:23 AM Edited by RKISIT on Mon 05/21/12 08:24 AM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings? Exactly my point. If I believe God exists than why would I believe in evolution? You will never find skeletons definitely linking men and apes/chimps/monkees because they don't exist. You need to concentrate on the DNA trail because it has a better chance of proving it than filled in skull fragments. JMO There is not a link between human and primates.....but the of both to hominids..... http://www.npr.org/2009/10/01/113387960/move-over-lucy-ardi-may-be-oldest-human-ancestor I completely believe science supports the bible just the human timeline is off......humans wrote the kinds of animals on earth.....god created all starting with hominids and dinosaur which evolved with the earth changes over time..... Nice try Sea your taking what science has found and placing it into the bible,not science proven the bible correct.Actually congrats you are starting your own denomination with your interpretations i hope it works out,you do know me right when you start making the big bucks off your followers?I may actually come to see one of your services.So what are you going to name this new denomination?Heres a suggestion call it The Church of Seakologist You are too funny Eric......now you know I wouldn't have any money from it as I give it all away to help others.....I am doomed to philanthropy for life.....it is not a light undertaking you know Sea i thought we had something special going and you turn around and call me by another mans name,oh the drama I'm Rob not E-Train i do miss him along with Patsfan.

Seakolony Joined Fri 11/07/08 Posts: 11968	Mon 05/21/12 10:12 AM
I notice many of the skulls are incomplete and have been filled in to match what the evolutionist thought. I can make an angel like that, does that make an angel exist to you? It's 1 skull that was filled in and these skulls have been burried from 100s of thousands to millions of years.As for angels if i know god doesn't exist then why would i believe in humans with wings? Exactly my point. If I believe God exists than why would I believe in evolution? You will never find skeletons definitely linking men and apes/chimps/monkees because they don't exist. You need to concentrate on the DNA trail because it has a better chance of proving it than filled in skull fragments. JMO There is not a link between human and primates.....but the of both to hominids..... http://www.npr.org/2009/10/01/113387960/move-over-lucy-ardi-may-be-oldest-human-ancestor I completely believe science supports the bible just the human timeline is off......humans wrote the kinds of animals on earth.....god created all starting with hominids and dinosaur which evolved with the earth changes over time..... Nice try Sea your taking what science has found and placing it into the bible,not science proven the bible correct.Actually congrats you are starting your own denomination with your interpretations i hope it works out,you do know me right when you start making the big bucks off your followers?I may actually come to see one of your services.So what are you going to name this new denomination?Heres a suggestion call it The Church of Seakologist You are too funny Eric......now you know I wouldn't have any money from it as I give it all away to help others.....I am doomed to philanthropy for life.....it is not a light undertaking you know Sea i thought we had something special going and you turn around and call me by another mans name,oh the drama I'm Rob not E-Train i do miss him along with Patsfan. Dang it.......so many names I get confused......so sorry love its been a while...of course you are special love ....... you know I can remember so many things names just get me sometimes though oh well you you should see my sons face when I call his by his sisters name way funny

luv2roknroll Joined Sun 07/06/08 Posts: 30367	Tue 05/22/12 10:06 AM
<---pokes her head in I go to church on Sundays, twice, hehe, and if you cant FEEL God up in there, then your probably dead. <---leaves I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!!

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Tue 05/22/12 11:52 AM
Evolution from apes is a theory. There is no link, yet, found to prove this theory has any basis in fact. If there was it would be all over the news. I kind of thought evolution was a theory that we are more like apes cousins, than descendants? which would fall in line with Christianity in the sense that we did all start from the same source {parent) minus the christian thingy you typed,actually you're correct i was wrong what i typed i should've have been more clear on what i was typing,chimpanzees and humans came from another ape like specie so yes we are cousins to the chimp.I typed we branched from the chimps which we did sort of but not 100% directly from the chimps we see today.

luv2roknroll Joined Sun 07/06/08 Posts: 30367	Wed 05/23/12 11:04 AM Edited by luv2roknroll on Wed 05/23/12 11:05 AM
I WILL NOT BE IGNORED!! Apparently you will Roberta. Yeah, I see that! Its not always all about YOU all the time, ya know? REALLY??? REALLY!!! I can live with that. Like you have a choice? snicker

Kleisto Joined Tue 05/13/08 Posts: 5704	Thu 05/24/12 11:43 PM
I just thought of something profound,,,, wait for it,,,wait for it,,, its no man or womans obligatoin to PROVE Gods existence God proves his existence, if there is any obligation at all,,,, its mans obligation to believe,,, If it was mans obligation to believe then all would believe.....it mans right to choose to believe or not believe.....as for me and my house we will walk in the faith of the lord I understand obligation to be a choice as well,,, but its not significant,, I think we are in agreement that its mans choice to believe or not In a child support judiciary order the obligor pays the obligee and the amount is obligated.....there is no choice you must pay or consequences ensue.......obligation isn't a choice its commanded and demanded......from my view.... I agree. It is commanded to worship God. There are consequences if we choose not to. much like a court orders the obliger to pay and when they dont there is consequences (whether he didnt know about the order or because he just chose not to follow it) I personally think much higher of God than to be so petty to DEMAND worship. And spare me the free will garbage too.......we can't freely choose anything if we are being effectively held up at gun point to choose what you want us to choose. Doesn't work, never did.