Topic: Colorado court says students can carry guns on campus
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Wed 03/28/12 02:25 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Wed 03/28/12 02:28 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/06/us-guns-colorado-university-idUSTRE82504920120306
(Reuters) - The University of Colorado overstepped its authority when the school's board of regents imposed a ban on the carrying of concealed weapons at its four campuses, the state's Supreme Court ruled on Monday.

In overturning the policy, the court said that a concealed -carry law passed by the state legislature trumped the school's ban because it did not carve out an exception for the state's flagship university.

"We hold that the (concealed carry law's) comprehensive statewide purpose, broad language, and narrow exclusions show that the General Assembly intended to divest the Board of Regents of its authority to regulate concealed handgun possession on campus," the ruling said.

"This is a victory for gun rights as well as civil rights," said James Manley, an attorney with the Mountain States Legal Foundation that sued on behalf of three students who challenged the ban.

"The University of Colorado has to follow state law and the regents can't ignore that."

Ken McConnellogue, spokesman for the university, said the regents believed as an elected body they had the legal right to set security policy at their campuses.

"We're disappointed that the state supreme court has taken away what the university believed was its statutory and constitutional authority to provide for the safety of our students, faculty, staff and visitors," he said.

Currently, 22 states ban the carrying of concealed weapons on college campuses, and Utah is the only state that explicitly forbids the banning of concealed weapons at its 10 public colleges and universities, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL) web site.

Last year, the Oregon Court of Appeals overturned the state university system's ban on carrying guns on campus, the conference said.

Additionally, Wisconsin law allows concealed weapons on college campuses, but schools can forbid weapons inside its buildings if signs are posted outside each facility saying weapons are prohibited.

The Colorado case stemmed from three students with valid concealed-carry permits who sued in 2008 after university police denied them permission to carry their weapons on campus.

The students lost at the trial court level, but the ruling was overturned by the Colorado Court of Appeals. The university appealed that ruling, setting the stage for a review by the state's highest court.

McConnellogue said the regents would meet with the university's legal counsel to decide how to comply with the ruling while maintaining security on campus.

He said it is unclear how the ruling will affect other university properties such as the university's football stadium in Boulder and its hospital in suburban Denver.

(Reporting by Keith Coffman; Editing by Dan Whitcomb and Greg McCune)


A great day in Colorado for freedom and personal responsibility. It is time to remove the pro crime, gun free zones where only criminals carry.

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/28/12 03:49 PM
great, going backwards to wild west,,,,

gonna be interesting,,,

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Wed 03/28/12 05:35 PM

great, going backwards to wild west,,,,

gonna be interesting,,,


A town passed an ordinance that requires every household to have a working gun. They have extremely low crime rates and have had no murders in 25 years.

25 years murder-free in 'Gun Town USA'

Dragoness's photo
Wed 03/28/12 05:49 PM
I know.


There are some stupid folks here in Colorado.

I have to battle them all the time.


mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/28/12 05:51 PM

I know.


There are some stupid folks here in Colorado.

I have to battle them all the time.




whoa

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Wed 03/28/12 05:53 PM
I all can say is if there is a shooting at a Colorado university, I hope that there is a p ussy there with a gun to save the other student's lives. If talking could end a conflict, WWII would have never happened...ask Neville Chamberlain.

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Wed 03/28/12 06:09 PM

I all can say is if there is a shooting at a Colorado university, I hope that there is a p ussy there with a gun to save the other student's lives. If talking could end a conflict, WWII would have never happened...ask Neville Chamberlain.


:thumbsup:

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Wed 03/28/12 07:50 PM

I all can say is if there is a shooting at a Colorado university, I hope that there is a p ussy there with a gun to save the other student's lives. If talking could end a conflict, WWII would have never happened...ask Neville Chamberlain.




oj and nicole sought counseling
I sought counseling with my husband

I am not dead, nicole is.

so the logic doesnt follow that : if counseling could resolve domestic abuse, Nicole would not be dead.

because I am not dead and also went to counseling,,,



,,,the logic again does not really connect,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/28/12 07:57 PM


great, going backwards to wild west,,,,

gonna be interesting,,,


A town passed an ordinance that requires every household to have a working gun. They have extremely low crime rates and have had no murders in 25 years.

25 years murder-free in 'Gun Town USA'



OR NOT

http://progressivevalues.blogspot.com/2007/04/kennesaw-georgia-gun-violence-reduction.html

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/28/12 07:57 PM


I all can say is if there is a shooting at a Colorado university, I hope that there is a p ussy there with a gun to save the other student's lives. If talking could end a conflict, WWII would have never happened...ask Neville Chamberlain.




oj and nicole sought counseling
I sought counseling with my husband

I am not dead, nicole is.

so the logic doesnt follow that : if counseling could resolve domestic abuse, Nicole would not be dead.

because I am not dead and also went to counseling,,,



,,,the logic again does not really connect,,,,


huh... i am trying to figure out what this has to do with guns... if nicole had a gun, she wouldn't have died?

msharmony's photo
Wed 03/28/12 07:59 PM



I all can say is if there is a shooting at a Colorado university, I hope that there is a p ussy there with a gun to save the other student's lives. If talking could end a conflict, WWII would have never happened...ask Neville Chamberlain.




oj and nicole sought counseling
I sought counseling with my husband

I am not dead, nicole is.

so the logic doesnt follow that : if counseling could resolve domestic abuse, Nicole would not be dead.

because I am not dead and also went to counseling,,,



,,,the logic again does not really connect,,,,


huh... i am trying to figure out what this has to do with guns... if nicole had a gun, she wouldn't have died?



lol, love ya moe

the statement was made 'if talking could end a conflict, WWII would never have happened'


my post was pointing out the err of that statement

because obviously, SOMETIMES Talking does end conflicts, as well as other non life threatening actions,,,,


my example was showing how giving one instance where something didnt work is not proof that something NEVER works or even RARELY works


in fact, Id say we may be having MORE wars, if there WERENT other ways to end conflicts,,,

Dragoness's photo
Wed 03/28/12 08:00 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Wed 03/28/12 08:01 PM


I know.


There are some stupid folks here in Colorado.

I have to battle them all the time.




whoa


It is sadly true and more likely a raging student will kill other students with his legal gun and no other legal gun will challenge him/her.

Gunless people jumping a legal gun holder has saved more lives in these situations.

It is ignorant of people to believe that a gun is a solve all.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 03/28/12 08:04 PM



great, going backwards to wild west,,,,

gonna be interesting,,,


A town passed an ordinance that requires every household to have a working gun. They have extremely low crime rates and have had no murders in 25 years.

25 years murder-free in 'Gun Town USA'



OR NOT

http://progressivevalues.blogspot.com/2007/04/kennesaw-georgia-gun-violence-reduction.html



statistics can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say. I noticed they didn't say anything about what types of nieghorhoods they are, or anything about the police force in either city. there are cityies out here i won't drive through because the cops will pull you over, and i'm sure their crime rate is low also...

msharmony's photo
Thu 03/29/12 01:49 AM




great, going backwards to wild west,,,,

gonna be interesting,,,


A town passed an ordinance that requires every household to have a working gun. They have extremely low crime rates and have had no murders in 25 years.

25 years murder-free in 'Gun Town USA'



OR NOT

http://progressivevalues.blogspot.com/2007/04/kennesaw-georgia-gun-violence-reduction.html



statistics can be manipulated to say whatever you want them to say. I noticed they didn't say anything about what types of nieghorhoods they are, or anything about the police force in either city. there are cityies out here i won't drive through because the cops will pull you over, and i'm sure their crime rate is low also...



we agree on this

I am in awe of numbers and how they can be manipulated

and the english language and how many contexts in which words can be used to have different meanings,,,,


numbers and words, two of my favorite things to be in awe of,,lol