Topic: Are any of these statements true?
no photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:18 PM




Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


If that was true...

Strippers wouldn't profit from the male's short attention span.

The occupations (illegal or otherwise)
Of escorts, hookers, sluts, and prostitution would, more than likely, not exist as much as they do presently.

Also.

How would you buy porn?


If what was true? Sex mattering to women? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.

no photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:18 PM
Edited by 42BlackBBW on Mon 01/23/12 03:19 PM




If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.



Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.



What I was saying is that if the wife was taking care of his needs and he still cheated, then he has betrayed the trust and he should leave. In that case, sex became more important to him.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

I am surprised that air wasn't included in Maslow's hierarchy of needs.:smile: Do you think Maslov was an alien?:smile:
Oh, okay. Breathing is air.:smile:


No but he probably spent too much time looking for Pavlov’s dog laugh

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:19 PM


Men and women both have needs in a relationship. Sex is a huge one for men. Women's are generally emotional.

Meet my need for emotional security and you'll have more sex than you can handle. It's just what gets me hot. love


I'll get right on that.


See? We agree on something. :wink:

machug's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:19 PM




Perhaps he wasn't meeting her needs and that's why she wasn't interested in sex with him anymore?


That's entirely possible, but it takes two to make a relationship work. If she wasn't doing her wifely duties, because he wasn't doing his husbandly duties, that doesn't make her right, it makes them both wrong.


I really don't like the term "wifely duties".
It does take 2 to make a relationship work. I think that some men will stray no matter how much sex they get at home. Well, I know that. To be fair, that could work the same way with a woman.

The bottom line is that if you truely love someone and marry them, cheating is wrong and you have betrayed the trust. If sex is that much more important than love, just leave.


I agree with this..I would have so much respect for someone if they did leave before they cheated or at least discussed where he/she felt the relationship was failing before looking elsewhere but that very rarely happens.



I would have too. That would have at least been honest and allowed for the opportunity for both to work on the needs. If only one person trys to make things better, it still won't change anything.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:20 PM





Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


If that was true...

Strippers wouldn't profit from the male's short attention span.

The occupations (illegal or otherwise)
Of escorts, hookers, sluts, and prostitution would, more than likely, not exist as much as they do presently.

Also.

How would you buy porn?


If what was true? Sex mattering to women? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.


Answer to the only question you asked.

The term 'slut' wouldn't exist if women didn't like sex.
etc, etc, etc.

i.e.: I'm agreeing with you...






....for once. :D

no photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:23 PM






Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


If that was true...

Strippers wouldn't profit from the male's short attention span.

The occupations (illegal or otherwise)
Of escorts, hookers, sluts, and prostitution would, more than likely, not exist as much as they do presently.

Also.

How would you buy porn?


If what was true? Sex mattering to women? I'm not quite sure what you're saying.


Answer to the only question you asked.

The term 'slut' wouldn't exist if women didn't like sex.
etc, etc, etc.

i.e.: I'm agreeing with you...






....for once. :D


Oh, ok. I get what you're saying now. Two agreements in one day. :tongue:

no photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:24 PM

The point I was getting at was that sex is absolutely important to women. More so for some and less for others. I don't really care if it's more important to men or women. It's important for both. But reading through this thread, it seems that some people don't see that, so I was confused.


The importance of sex comes in on the first page where 42BlackBBW wrote "It's funny you say that...I was reading another article about a man wanting to draw up a sex contract with his intended because his other relationships had ended due the woman not wanting to have sex anymore. The contract stated that his wife would have sex with him at least twice a week. "

Nobody has stated that women don't enjoy sex or that sex is unimportant to women. The point I made is that it's a shame when a divorce happens because the wife doesn't want to have sex with the husband enough to keep him satisfied. Once again, I don't believe any post came anywhere close to saying that women don't like sex.

Teditis's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:24 PM
Edited by Teditis on Mon 01/23/12 03:26 PM


Well, maybe... idk.
Are they true? You tell me.


I think that for some they are true statements and for other's it isn't.

My brother is a sane rational man whose opinion I mostly respect and he believed that some are true.

I also think that most people can find a rationale to justify their behaviour.

Ahh, perhaps you missed my intended humour... er, perhaps I'm not so good at expressing it.
I answered both "yes" and "no" first. Before the "maybe"...

What I meant was that in in my opinion, it's one of those subects that falls squarely on the shoulders of "relative truth"... er, it's whatever the individual sees it as...
Fidelity is not what ONE person sees it as but it's a mutual thing.
When the 2 agree... the rest of us "on-lookers" can just go to heck. haha. When the 2 agree... that's their truth. As applied to a "relationship".
However... if the 2 never reach some sort of agreement... well, that's just the circus that life tends to be.
And again... the rest of us are just observers in a theatre of the absurd.
jmho.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:25 PM
Here's what I see as the difference. And I can only speak for myself. I'm not speaking for women in general.

Men can satisfy their need for sex with any woman.

I need sex too. But I do not find it satisfying outside of an emotionally satisfying relationship.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:25 PM


The point I was getting at was that sex is absolutely important to women. More so for some and less for others. I don't really care if it's more important to men or women. It's important for both. But reading through this thread, it seems that some people don't see that, so I was confused.


The importance of sex comes in on the first page where 42BlackBBW wrote "It's funny you say that...I was reading another article about a man wanting to draw up a sex contract with his intended because his other relationships had ended due the woman not wanting to have sex anymore. The contract stated that his wife would have sex with him at least twice a week. "

Nobody has stated that women don't enjoy sex or that sex is unimportant to women. The point I made is that it's a shame when a divorce happens because the wife doesn't want to have sex with the husband enough to keep him satisfied. Once again, I don't believe any post came anywhere close to saying that women don't like sex.


Spiderrrr!

Shhhhhhhhhhhh!

I hate/like agreeing with you. >.>

It totally goes against my morals.

>:[

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:26 PM







Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


I was just reading and thinking the same...
I really thought we were beyond this male ego driven sex attitude.
The only women i know who don't enjoy and need sex are radical christians who have been taught how bad it is..therefore becoming frigid.

The rest of us..we like and need it !!!! pitchfork


Yes, that's why prostitution and pornography almost exclusive caters to men...because women want sex just as much as men...


I didn't say "as much as a man"

i said we like and need it



I'll be honest, I get confused easily. It seemed that you were objecting me to saying that sex was more important to men than it is to women. I never suggested that women don't like sex. I made a simple statement of fact and thought that your post was an objection to that statement.




I think the old feelings that women don't need sex and or enjoy it as much as men tends to come through while these men are having sex.
If she is only doing her wifely duties then he really hasn't much reason to put much energy or creativity into it.
If he's a selfish lousy lay because he doesn't believe she needs it like him....she will move on.
I'll bet a dollar the men who really believe sex is not as wanted or as needed by women as much as him.....goes through a lot of relationships.

Teditis's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:28 PM

Here's what I see as the difference. And I can only speak for myself. I'm not speaking for women in general.

Men can satisfy their need for sex with any woman.

I need sex too. But I do not find it satisfying outside of an emotionally satisfying relationship.

That's just bogus... biased opinion.
Men are men, women are women.
Both are the same breed, Human.

machug's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:28 PM

Here's what I see as the difference. And I can only speak for myself. I'm not speaking for women in general.

Men can satisfy their need for sex with any woman.

I need sex too. But I do not find it satisfying outside of an emotionally satisfying relationship.


Very well said. flowerforyou

no photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:29 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Mon 01/23/12 03:31 PM








Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


I was just reading and thinking the same...
I really thought we were beyond this male ego driven sex attitude.
The only women i know who don't enjoy and need sex are radical christians who have been taught how bad it is..therefore becoming frigid.

The rest of us..we like and need it !!!! pitchfork


Yes, that's why prostitution and pornography almost exclusive caters to men...because women want sex just as much as men...


I didn't say "as much as a man"

i said we like and need it




I'll be honest, I get confused easily. It seemed that you were objecting me to saying that sex was more important to men than it is to women. I never suggested that women don't like sex. I made a simple statement of fact and thought that your post was an objection to that statement.




I think the old feelings that women don't need sex and or enjoy it as much as men tends to come through while these men are having sex.
If she is only doing her wifely duties then he really hasn't much reason to put much energy or creativity into it.
If he's a selfish lousy lay because he doesn't believe she needs it like him....she will move on.
I'll bet a dollar the men who really believe sex is not as wanted or as needed by women as much as him.....goes through a lot of relationships.


Okay, just just contradicted yourself from your last post.

Bravalady's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:30 PM

You're writer is an arrogant self-righteous douche nugget.

Why?

If anyone thinks they can speak of behalf of a group of people, let alone 10 million males, they are a moron.

First off. Homosexuals don't think like that. (Not all anyway)

Second. Not all guys think like that. In fact, some guys are more prone to have a feminine like side; i.e., they love romance, and being devoted wholly to one person.

Third. I'm repulsed at the ideas that a dumb nugget can call it 'love' yet have 'sizzling-sex' with another. That's not love. Love is knowing that hurting your other would hurt you even more. Thus, the crime is not worth the punishment theory.

Fourth. Religious people. They tend to hold vows very distinctly. Of course not all, but if you are truly devout and get married, you just swore under and before God.. those terms don't come with small fine print.

Fifth. If that's how the guy really feels, then don't date, don't get married. Stay single and miserable while sleeping with everything with two legs and some knockers.

So, therefore, the statement is false, because he tried to be a dumbo and speak on behalf of all, which you can never do. It is NOT genetic as it does not just 'pop' into each and every single guy.

I want to be married and be faithful to that marriage. Period.

Furthermore...

You can lust over someone more than others, that still does not make it love. Love is the devotion to one, not numerous. So, in retrospect... that editor should be smacked.

Just saying..


LOL, come on, S&S, tell us what you really think, don't be shy. laugh

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:32 PM


You're writer is an arrogant self-righteous douche nugget.

Why?

If anyone thinks they can speak of behalf of a group of people, let alone 10 million males, they are a moron.

First off. Homosexuals don't think like that. (Not all anyway)

Second. Not all guys think like that. In fact, some guys are more prone to have a feminine like side; i.e., they love romance, and being devoted wholly to one person.

Third. I'm repulsed at the ideas that a dumb nugget can call it 'love' yet have 'sizzling-sex' with another. That's not love. Love is knowing that hurting your other would hurt you even more. Thus, the crime is not worth the punishment theory.

Fourth. Religious people. They tend to hold vows very distinctly. Of course not all, but if you are truly devout and get married, you just swore under and before God.. those terms don't come with small fine print.

Fifth. If that's how the guy really feels, then don't date, don't get married. Stay single and miserable while sleeping with everything with two legs and some knockers.

So, therefore, the statement is false, because he tried to be a dumbo and speak on behalf of all, which you can never do. It is NOT genetic as it does not just 'pop' into each and every single guy.

I want to be married and be faithful to that marriage. Period.

Furthermore...

You can lust over someone more than others, that still does not make it love. Love is the devotion to one, not numerous. So, in retrospect... that editor should be smacked.

Just saying..


LOL, come on, S&S, tell us what you really think, don't be shy. laugh


I did the best to my ability.
Also holding the attempt to NOT
have soufie banging on my mailbox. D:

no photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:33 PM


The point I was getting at was that sex is absolutely important to women. More so for some and less for others. I don't really care if it's more important to men or women. It's important for both. But reading through this thread, it seems that some people don't see that, so I was confused.


The importance of sex comes in on the first page where 42BlackBBW wrote "It's funny you say that...I was reading another article about a man wanting to draw up a sex contract with his intended because his other relationships had ended due the woman not wanting to have sex anymore. The contract stated that his wife would have sex with him at least twice a week. "

Nobody has stated that women don't enjoy sex or that sex is unimportant to women. The point I made is that it's a shame when a divorce happens because the wife doesn't want to have sex with the husband enough to keep him satisfied. Once again, I don't believe any post came anywhere close to saying that women don't like sex.


We still don't know why she wouldn't have sex with him anymore. Like I said, maybe he wasn't fulfilling her needs. Maybe he was all about himself during sex and not her? Who knows.

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:33 PM









Nobody has said that sex is more important than love. Just because you need to breath more than you need water, that doesn't mean you don't need water. Every human has needs and it just so happens that sex is a major need for men. If a woman plans to marry a man, she should know that she's committing to take care of his needs. If she doesn't, then she has failed the marriage just as much as her husband would fail the marriage if he cheated.


I keep reading these posts about how much more important sex is for man than women. Do you guys really think sex doesn't matter much for women?


I was just reading and thinking the same...
I really thought we were beyond this male ego driven sex attitude.
The only women i know who don't enjoy and need sex are radical christians who have been taught how bad it is..therefore becoming frigid.

The rest of us..we like and need it !!!! pitchfork


Yes, that's why prostitution and pornography almost exclusive caters to men...because women want sex just as much as men...


I didn't say "as much as a man"

i said we like and need it



I'll be honest, I get confused easily. It seemed that you were objecting me to saying that sex was more important to men than it is to women. I never suggested that women don't like sex. I made a simple statement of fact and thought that your post was an objection to that statement.




I think the old feelings that women don't need sex and or enjoy it as much as men tends to come through while these men are having sex.
If she is only doing her wifely duties then he really hasn't much reason to put much energy or creativity into it.
If he's a selfish lousy lay because he doesn't believe she needs it like him....she will move on.
I'll bet a dollar the men who really believe sex is not as wanted or as needed by women as much as him.....goes through a lot of relationships.


Okay, just just contradicted yourself from your last post.


no, i didn't.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:33 PM


Here's what I see as the difference. And I can only speak for myself. I'm not speaking for women in general.

Men can satisfy their need for sex with any woman.

I need sex too. But I do not find it satisfying outside of an emotionally satisfying relationship.

That's just bogus... biased opinion.
Men are men, women are women.
Both are the same breed, Human.



I am not saying that men don't need or want a loving relationship. I'm just saying they don't need that relationship to enjoy sex.

no photo
Mon 01/23/12 03:36 PM



I think the old feelings that women don't need sex and or enjoy it as much as men tends to come through while these men are having sex.
If she is only doing her wifely duties then he really hasn't much reason to put much energy or creativity into it.
If he's a selfish lousy lay because he doesn't believe she needs it like him....she will move on.
I'll bet a dollar the men who really believe sex is not as wanted or as needed by women as much as him.....goes through a lot of relationships.


The guys who are lazy or selfish during sex aren't going to be able to keep women around. If the sex is good for both people, a contract won't have to be written up so the man gets sex at least twice a week.