Topic: STAR TREK AND CAPITALISM
parttime_vikingfan's photo
Mon 01/23/12 11:57 AM
Let me say that I am aware that Star Trek is not real, and that there are alot of holes and unanswered questions and ambiguities in the whole scenario.


The entire topic of currency is avoided with the exception of a few small doses of simply being done away with because they out grew (evolved) them. That at best there continues to be a barter system. (Mining Dylithium crystals in exchange for something?)


My first question is: How do you feel about implied or not implied socialistic, or communistic state of the Federation.



my second question is: Do you believe we live in a plutocracy?


plu·toc·ra·cy   /pluˈtɒkrəsi/ Show Spelled[ploo-tok-ruh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural -cies.
1. the rule or power of wealth or of the wealthy.
2. a government or state in which the wealthy class rules.
3. a class or group ruling, or exercising power or influence, by virtue of its wealth.

smart2009's photo
Mon 01/23/12 12:08 PM

Let me say that I am aware that Star Trek is not real, and that there are alot of holes and unanswered questions and ambiguities in the whole scenario.


The entire topic of currency is avoided with the exception of a few small doses of simply being done away with because they out grew (evolved) them. That at best there continues to be a barter system. (Mining Dylithium crystals in exchange for something?)


My first question is: How do you feel about implied or not implied socialistic, or communistic state of the Federation.



my second question is: Do you believe we live in a plutocracy?


plu·toc·ra·cy   /pluˈtɒkrəsi/ Show Spelled[ploo-tok-ruh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural -cies.
1. the rule or power of wealth or of the wealthy.
2. a government or state in which the wealthy class rules.
3. a class or group ruling, or exercising power or influence, by virtue of its wealth.


Agreed

metalwing's photo
Mon 01/23/12 12:20 PM
It depends upon your perspective. With the aid of the rich, like George Soros, Obama was elected by the non-rich.


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Over the past year, Soros provided coveted support for Obama and the Democrats’ Byzantine financial “reforms” under the sweeping Dodd-Frank law. He preached to financial publications around the world about the need for increased regulatory controls over his industry. And in November 2008, while paying obligatory lip service to concerns about going too far, he submitted a statement to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that recommended: “The entire regulatory framework needs to be reconsidered, and hedge funds need to be regulated within that framework.”

Frameworks for thee, but not for he, however.

Under Title IV of Dodd-Frank, hedge funds were required to abide by new registration and reporting requirements in an attempt to better police systemic risk (not that the feckless Securities and Exchange Commission has ever been able to fulfill that mission). To evade the regulations, Soros and other firms have used a recently passed rule allowing so-called family offices to shield themselves from both registration and disclosure rules that would have subjected Soros Inc. to a new “Financial Stability Oversight Council.”

Somehow, in touting its one-year anniversary last week, there was nary a peep about the myriad loopholes and de facto waivers being granted to Obama’s powerful benefactors whose names start with “S” and end in “-oros.”

GOP Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama called out Soros’ hypocrisy, telling Reuters this week: “It appears that Mr. Soros talked up financial reform only to sell it short. Don’t be surprised to see his fellow Wall Street financiers follow suit.”

This comes on top of the Obama administration’s $2 billion offering in 2009 to Brazilian state-owned offshore oil-drilling company Petrobras — in which Soros and his management company own an $811 million stake.

Offshore drilling for they, but not for the rest of the USA. Membership in the self-exempting progressive billionaires’ club has its privileges.

Read more: http://www.gazette.com/articles/george-122342-malkin-obama.html#ixzz1kJZZMaIU

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Mon 01/23/12 12:40 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Mon 01/23/12 12:46 PM

My first question is: How do you feel about implied or not implied socialistic, or communistic state of the Federation.


There is a very good reason why they never explain how money is handled, other than it isn't used...it's because the teleporters and warp tech are more realistic than their monetary system.


my second question is: Do you believe we live in a plutocracy?


plu·toc·ra·cy   /pluˈtɒkrəsi/ Show Spelled[ploo-tok-ruh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural -cies.
1. the rule or power of wealth or of the wealthy.
2. a government or state in which the wealthy class rules.
3. a class or group ruling, or exercising power or influence, by virtue of its wealth.


To a degree, largely due to the fact that we don't have term limits.

heavenlyboy34's photo
Mon 01/23/12 12:44 PM

Let me say that I am aware that Star Trek is not real, and that there are alot of holes and unanswered questions and ambiguities in the whole scenario.


The entire topic of currency is avoided with the exception of a few small doses of simply being done away with because they out grew (evolved) them. That at best there continues to be a barter system. (Mining Dylithium crystals in exchange for something?)


My first question is: How do you feel about implied or not implied socialistic, or communistic state of the Federation.



my second question is: Do you believe we live in a plutocracy?


plu·toc·ra·cy   /pluˈtɒkrəsi/ Show Spelled[ploo-tok-ruh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural -cies.
1. the rule or power of wealth or of the wealthy.
2. a government or state in which the wealthy class rules.
3. a class or group ruling, or exercising power or influence, by virtue of its wealth.


I'm not a trek fanboy, but from what I've seen, there is use of barter. This is a part of laissez-faire. (allowing individuals to choose their preferred medium of exchange). The Federation, as portrayed in the series, is imperialist/fascist, not socialist or communist (By Marx/Engels' standards).

What we've got before us is not so much a plutocracy as quasi-fascism. It's really close to plutocracy, though. The regime still has to use the charade of welfare programs and such to make the poor and others who have no political ties FEEL like the elite and politically well-connected aren't in control(that the politicians care about them personally).