you stated that you were depress and you were acting out



I'm not sure the cat you kicked off the bed would agree



right....your mother the school and the police officers just dragged you to a shrink because they had nothing else better to do

WANTED.

OMFG

THEY WANTED.

Wanted.

They wanted to know why my demeanor had changed.

W
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Yes, please, ignore every other thing I said.

Next response, if you ask this stupid question again, is going to be a one word answer. So you are not confused by me putting so much depth into my explanation, ok?

WANT <---------- If you can, focus just on that word.

ok I'll use your term......your Mother only "wanted" to dragged you to a shrink...she had no "need" or motivation to do it

oops that's right...if she didn't do it she would have been dragged to jail herself ....

so can you explain why her wants were not the same as her needs

I like how you changed this well after the fact I had responded..

However.

I am right.

So, ty, for calling me a perfect God.

If you still don't believe me.

Seriously. Dictionary. Buy one.

I mean, come on, you cannot be this dense.

How do you know what Occam's Razor is..
..but are oblivious to the difference between a want and a need?

.....haha. Wow. Special.

Now we're talking about my mother?!

LMAO!

Look, dude.

The school wanted me to seek help.
My mother wanted me to go because she didn't want to go to jail.
I didn't want nor need to go.

Still. Didn't make your point.

Jail is not death.

Want is not a need.

ok...then you just supplied the answer to first cause ...God wanted to create the Universe or Mrs.God would have dragged him to the shrink

By the way.

It's not my term, it's called the English language.

Motivation and need aren't even the same thing either.

Precisely.

you still have not explain the major difference between want need motivation or logic in the case of your Mother having you dragged to the shrink

when you do so...... then you would have won ...doesn't even matter if the explanations are delusional...you will still win

Yes. Funches. I have explained the differences.
75 times over.

However, you just tossed in for me to explain the difference with motivation and logic, so, I'll do that for you to.

Want - A desire to posses or to do something

Need - A necessity; it is a requirement

Motivation - A willingness to do something, or reason for acting a certain way

Logic - Reasoning through strict principles and assessment

So, let us clarify, since I know you need.

Owning a car, having sex, buying a new TV - These are examples of wants, which we clearly know because they are not necessities in order to live.

Air, food, water, are the major necessities required for a human to live; that is why we know these to be needs and not as much wants.

I am motivated to go run around the block even though there is no clear logic behind such. I am motivated to love even though there is no logic in our love.

The boy said something rude and got punched in the face. The logic is that he agitated the other kids anger and in retro was punched in the face because of it.

Holy cow Batman. Four different words defined for your leisure in less the time it will take you to conjure up why this is wrong when, in truth, it is right.

nope..I didn't ask for the definitions...I asked you to explain the major differences in "want need motivation and a logical reason" in the case pertaining to your Mother dragging you to a shrink ....do that and you will win the debate

How? There is no 'need' in any of that equation.
Everything was pushed into motivation through wants, not needs.

So, how can I add something that isn't a part of the equation?

so you're saying that your mother "wanted" to drag you to the shrink but had no need to do so?

Yes. She wouldn't have 'died' if I had not gone. Lost her freedom, yes, not her life. Therefore it was a want. She wanted her freedom.

ok..you win the debate

So, in conclusion.

God wanted to create the universe.

Now, back to this cosmo stuff..
I read it, and now totally forgot what it was about.

>.>

Holy crap..

Hey Bushido..

..you sure Spider didn't write this? lol

It uses the word fallacy like 9 billion times. :O

I'm not entirely sure if I agree with Bertrand Russell.

In case you are unsure; he's the one specifying that the universe doesn't need an explanation, because it just 'is'.

Okay, back to reading, before I make a full assessment, cause this is a lot. D:

well actually it was all part of the topic to speed up the debate about how the psychology of a God actually do play a part in the Cosmological Argument, and how placing wants above needs leads to sociopathic behavior.....caring for nothing other than what the God wanted

an example of this was displayed when you didn't care if your Mother went to jail..it didn't matter that due to your action she would go to jail, and as you so stated, it's not like it's going to kill her

the same with a God that creates without a need to create, what possible reason would it care about it creations when it can instantly create new ones...and remember it had no logical reason or a need to create them anyway

therefore if "first clause" for the creation of The Universe is "because God wanted to"...then God is a Sociopath

..nah, he tried to get us to change our ways.

Furthermore, he had originally intended us to be far less intelligent; via, the fruit.

We just became too stubborn and thick headed, and refused to listen.

Thus we condemned ourselves.

You can blame God, a crazy set of events, or coincidence for our 'appearance'; but you can't blame him for our downfall nor our ways.

That's illogical.

and according to the belief when people didn't change their ways God flooded the entire planet and drown them......it was nothing personal..he didn't have a need to drown them..."he just wanted to" ...which is clearly the actions of a sociopath



so is that excuse you used when they asked you why you stop going to school



perhaps that would be a logical reason why God should have drugged us to a shrink instead of resorting to mass drownings



what's illogical is you trying to blame everyone

but anyway... blame will always be given to those or to the one that created the circumstances ..it's called "taking responsibility"

and this is why if God created the Universe without a need or a logical reason...then "first cause" would be that he did so out of a "sociopathic want"