The OP implies blame to this administration for the policy itself.

That is incorrect.

The lack of action against it however is something Obama has to carry.

I didn't see the OP blaming this administration for implementing the policy itself.

You shouldn't assume that because one does not like Obama that they did like Bush. They are one and the same in my book.

Well the OP does imply that.

No assumptions needed.

I did not even say Bush was to blame for anything.

I didn't bring Bush up at all.

It wasn't however this administration nor lawyers who created this policy.

OBlowme signed the reinstallment of the Patriot Act with a 4 year extension clause while on his trip to Hawaii just recently.

Doesn't sound like he's all hot to repeal it to me!

None of the candidates for Pres are.....but one....Ron Paul!

All others (if you are following the debates) want to enhance it further (as in this bill)!

If ANYONE other than RP is elected, you can count on more of the same, and much fewer liberties than we presently have (which decrease every day! Case in point!)

If RP is our only savior then we are truly screwed.

He is a lunatic for real.

Obama with all his faults is still the best candidate for the next election.

There isn't a sane one to challenge him.

If all Americans felt as you do that the Constitution is just a 200 year old piece of paper, I fear where we are going as a nation!

RP doesn't want to control us, he wants to give us FREEDOM, and defend OUR borders, NOT those of other nations!

He doesn't want to "lead" the people, he wants to PROTECT our nation and its peoples freedoms and liberties!

Is it wrong to want peace and freedom for our nation?

He sounds more sane than ANY other POSSIBLE choice of our electorates!

What has war and hate done for you that is so great?

So, you can say that the OP implied something but no one can say you implied something? Rather hypocritical. Why am I not surprised?

War and hate hasn't been my thing since I was born so it does nothing for me. I actually fight against it.

That said, your talking points sound good until we go into how he wants to do these things.

Reinstating more white racism into the pot is not a good thing no matter how freeing it is for white racists.

Dissolving certain parts of the government that help people is not a good thing.

Dissolving our tax code, although, yea it is screwed in favor of the rich, won't help in how RP wants to do it.

ECT......

He is a nutbag, sorry.

He has no concept of how to do for those outside of those like him. Which is a problem we have with lots of politicians sure but not all of them come with mental unwellness too.

What are you talking about?

Look you have an issue that you need to resolve yourself or email me.

That doesn't apply to what has been posted here at all.

So I am leaving you to choose your method of resolution. I can't help you here.

This is not personal. No need for private emails. I'm sorry if you can't understand what I am saying. I think it's pretty clear. I can't do much to make it any simpler.

Well since I didn't imply anything on this thread, I guess no one but you understands it then, which is cool. No problem.

I will now return to the matter at hand on this thread.

Have a wonderful day.

You have not "understood", or you refuse to, anything RP has said!

Until you can tell me how ANYTHING the gov't is involved in has helped to improve it, your points are meaningless.

Gov't in education....quality goes down, price goes up

Gov't in health care....quality goes down, price goes up

Gov't in energy.... monopolized, qualities restricted, price goes up

Gov't in housing (HUD)....no need to even go there!

Gov't in environment.... our Nat parks are now the property of the UN, we are dependent on foreign oil and can't do with our own land as we wish!

Corporations and senators get richer, the people grow poorer, no jobs, losing their homes, freedoms, rights!

Need I go on?

You implied that it was the Bush administration who implemeted the policy. And, the went on to insist that you did not bring up Bush. It's just silly.

Making yours as meaningless as mine though right?

Part of what makes Ron Paul a lunatic is his "anarchy fixes everything" philosophy and will be the reason that he is not going to win a presidency.

Every result you gave of govt involvement is what happens without the government involvement too. Just look at the debacle with deregulations recently.

It isn't even logical what RP suggests...lol

That is why he is rightfully called a looney tunes.

It was lobbyist bribing GOVERNMENT that deregulated all the safety nets creating the problems, NOT fixing them!

Corporations are NOT people, but this gov't says they are!

IT WAS GOV'T WHO DECIDED TO "STEAL" SS FUNDS TO PROMOTE WAR! $3T FROM THE ACCOUNT, AND THEY WANT MORE!

Anarchy fixes?????? You mean cutting spending on an out of control war machine?

Maybe you mean removing the money from politics?

Is it the idea that he wants to protect our own borders rather than those of foreign countries who vote against us at every turn?

Maybe it's the fact that we could better use the BILLIONS of dollars at home from our service men and women rather than strengthening foreign economies?

Which anarchist ideas are you referring to?

Freedom and liberty instead of gov't control?

LOL like I said talking points with no reality to them.

Ron Paul is a white supremacist anarchist. With no concept of a how to live in a world unlike his or what it is like for those unlike him. It shows in his political belief system.

He couldn't fix a toothpick with his ideas. He uses the constitution as a false crutch to try to hook constitutionalists but he fails if they really understand what he is talking about.

Anarchy although interesting will not cure the ills of this country.

There is only one anarchist ideal. If you look it up you will see.

Disillusion breeds contentment!

I wish you happiness in yours

And obviously in yours also.