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seems that Guy has never heard of the Constitution,neither does he know what Branch of Government he belongs to!
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On the subject of this administration...... History proves that poverty is a normal condition...In an open market capitalistic society, entrepreneurs get rich and THE POOR BECOME BETTER OFF......They do not become rich, they become BETTER OFF.....So yes, the gap gets wider, but as it widens, the top and bottom rise.....If the rich were not "free" to get richer, the poor would have no chance of improving their situation..... Wealth is CREATED....It can only be created when the conditions of freedom (individual rights) are guaranteed......Obama is working toward destroying these guarantees, destroying "individual" rights. LOL And not true at all. the gap is getting larger because the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer. Bad conditions. Obama hasn't done one thing to upset individual freedoms. Bush has done more to upset individual freedoms. |
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At least he is trying to better the situation. Republicans couldn't care less.
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On the subject of this administration...... History proves that poverty is a normal condition...In an open market capitalistic society, entrepreneurs get rich and THE POOR BECOME BETTER OFF......They do not become rich, they become BETTER OFF.....So yes, the gap gets wider, but as it widens, the top and bottom rise.....If the rich were not "free" to get richer, the poor would have no chance of improving their situation..... Wealth is CREATED....It can only be created when the conditions of freedom (individual rights) are guaranteed......Obama is working toward destroying these guarantees, destroying "individual" rights. obama is a born loser, this country will never get better with that idiot in charge... |
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seems that Guy has never heard of the Constitution,neither does he know what Branch of Government he belongs to! It said that he was using his executive powers, so how is that over stepping his bounds? |
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seems that Guy has never heard of the Constitution,neither does he know what Branch of Government he belongs to! It said that he was using his executive powers, so how is that over stepping his bounds? Executive powers are by design unconstitution when used to legislate policy! |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Mon 10/31/11 04:24 PM
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If Obummer was trying to help America, why wouldn't he use the powers enacted by President Kennedy to have the Treasury print our money without debt, instead of driving us further into debt by borrowing from the FED?
http://www.rense.com/general44/exec.htm |
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I remember when Bush did things without the approval of congress and leftists tried to crucify him for it, but hey, this Obama we're talking about! |
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seems that Guy has never heard of the Constitution,neither does he know what Branch of Government he belongs to! It said that he was using his executive powers, so how is that over stepping his bounds? Executive powers are by design unconstitution when used to legislate policy! He isn't legislating policy anyway. |
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I remember when Bush did things without the approval of congress and leftists tried to crucify him for it, but hey, this Obama we're talking about! Rightly so. What he did was invade our privacy and push an illegal war. This is nothing close to that, nor is he doing anything that would be consider a war crime or victimizing his citizens like Bush did. |
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If Obummer was trying to help America, why wouldn't he use the powers enacted by President Kennedy to have the Treasury print our money without debt, instead of driving us further into debt by borrowing from the FED? http://www.rense.com/general44/exec.htm those powers were given to the secretary of treasury, so the president would not have to issue them the secretary still has that option,,, |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Mon 10/31/11 04:39 PM
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Has a war been declared I didn't know about?
No worries! They'll just make a new law to fit what they want to make happen! Read the bottom paragragh....... if nothing else THE EXECUTIVE ORDER "IN TIME OF WAR" Many of the fears of the founding fathers may now be coming to fruition. Today, the executive branch of the government is immensely powerful, much more powerful than the founding fathers had envisioned or wanted. Congressional legislative powers have been usurped. There is no greater example of that usurpation than in the form of the Presidential Executive Order. The process totally by-passes Congressional legislative authority and places in the hands of the President almost unilateral power. The Executive Order governs everything from the Flag Code of the United States to the ability to single-handedly declare Martial Law. Presidents have used the Executive Order in times of emergencies to override the Constitution of the United States and the Congress. President Andrew Jackson used executive powers to force the law-abiding Cherokee Nation off their ancestral lands. The Cherokee fought the illegal action in the U.S. Supreme Court and won. But Jackson, using the power of the Presidency, continued to order the removal of the Cherokee Nation and defied the Court's ruling. He stated, "Let the Court try to enforce their ruling." The Cherokee lost their land and commenced a series of journeys that would be called The Trail of Tears. President Abraham Lincoln suspended many fundamental rights guaranteed in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. He closed down newspapers opposed to his war-time policies and imprisoned what many historians now call political prisoners. He suspended the right of trial and the right to be confronted by accusers. Lincoln's justification for such drastic actions was the preservation of the Union above all things. After the war and Lincoln's death, Constitutional law was restored. In 1917, President Woodrow Wilson could not persuade Congress to arm United States vessels plying hostile German waters before the United States entered World War One. When Congress balked, Wilson invoked the policy through a Presidential Executive Order. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt issued Executive Order No. 9066 in December 1941. His order forced 100,000 Japanese residents in the United States to be rounded up and placed in concentration camps. The property of the Japanese was confiscated. Both Lincoln's and Roosevelt's actions were taken during wartime, when the very life of the United States was threatened. Wilson's action was taken on the eve of the United States entering World War One. Whether history judges these actions as just, proper or legal, the decision must be left to time. The dire life struggle associated with these actions provided plausible argumentation favoring their implementation during a time when hysteria ruled an age. THE NEW DANGERS A Presidential Executive Order, whether Constitutional or not, becomes law simply by its publication in the Federal Registry. Congress is by-passed. Here are just a few Executive Orders that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen: EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President. Without Congressional approval, the President now has the power to transfer whole populations to any part of the country, the power to suspend the Press and to force a national registration of all persons. The President, in essence, has dictatorial powers never provided to him under the Constitution. The President has the power to suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in a real or perceived emergency. Unlike Lincoln and Roosevelt, these powers are not derived from a wartime need, but from any crisis, domestic or foreign, hostile or economic. Roosevelt created extraordinary measures during the Great Depression, but any President faced with a similar, or lesser, economic crisis now has extraordinary powers to assume dictatorial status. Many of the Executive Orders cited here have been on the books for over a quarter of a century and have not been applied. Therefore, what makes them more dangerous today than yesteryear? There has been a steady, consistent series of new Executive Orders, originating from President Richard Nixon and added to by Presidents Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter and George Bush that provide an ominous Orwellian portrait, the portrait of George Orwell's 1984. THE EROSION OF INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS A series of Executive Orders, internal governmental departmental laws, unpassed by Congress, the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988 and the Violent Crime Control Act of 1991, has whittled down Constitutional law substantially. These new Executive Orders and Congressional Acts allow for the construction of concentration camps, suspension of rights and the ability of the President to declare Martial Law in the event of a drug crisis. Congress will have no power to prevent the Martial Law declaration and can only review the process six months after Martial Law has been declared. The most critical Executive Order was issued on August 1, 1971. Nixon signed both a proclamation and Executive Order 11615. Proclamation No. 4074 states, "I hereby declare a national emergency", thus establishing an economic crisis. That national emergency order has not been rescinded. The crisis that changed the direction of governmental thinking was the anti-Vietnam protests. Fear that such demonstrations might explode into civil unrest, Executive Orders began to be created to allow extreme measures to be implemented to curtail the demonstrations. The recent Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King jury verdict only reinforced the government's concern about potential civil unrest and the need to have an effective mechanism to curtail such demonstrations. Here are the later Executive Orders: EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. EXECUTIVE ORDER 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies, the bulk of their funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or domestic. EXECUTIVE ORDER 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States and granted the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Many of the figures in the Iran-Contra scandal were part of this emergency contingent, including Marine Colonel Oliver North. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." The Violent Crime Control Act of 1991 provides additional powers to the President of the United States, allowing the suspension of the Constitution and Constitutional rights of Americans during a "drug crisis". It provides for the construction of detention camps, seizure of property, and military control of populated areas. This, teamed with the Executive Orders of the President, enables Orwellian prophecies to rest on whoever occupies the White House. The power provided by these "laws" allows suspension of the Constitution and the rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights during any civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes and allows the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of Martial Law. When the Constitution of the United States was framed it placed the exclusive legislative authority in the hands of Congress and with the President. Article I, Section 1 of the United States Constitution is concise in its language, "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives." That is no longer true. The Bill of Rights protected Americans against loss of freedoms. That is no longer true. The Constitution provided for a balanced separation of powers. That is no longer applicable. Perhaps it can be summed up succinctly in the words of arch-conservative activist Howard J. Ruff. "Since the enactment of Executive Order 11490, the only thing standing between us and dictatorship is the good character of the President, and the lack of a crisis severe enough that the public would stand still for it." |
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These executive orders are scary and need to disappear!
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I remember when Bush did things without the approval of congress and leftists tried to crucify him for it, but hey, this Obama we're talking about! Rightly so. What he did was invade our privacy and push an illegal war. This is nothing close to that, nor is he doing anything that would be consider a war crime or victimizing his citizens like Bush did. There was nothing illegal about what he did in going to Iraq under the info that was provided at the time it was provided. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Mon 10/31/11 04:46 PM
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I remember when Bush did things without the approval of congress and leftists tried to crucify him for it, but hey, this Obama we're talking about! Rightly so. What he did was invade our privacy and push an illegal war. This is nothing close to that, nor is he doing anything that would be consider a war crime or victimizing his citizens like Bush did. There was nothing illegal about what he did in going to Iraq under the info that was provided at the time it was provided. That's NOT true! Only Congress can declare war, and they didn't! They agreed "to get Bin Laden", not start THAT "war", or go into Iraq! Once the damage had been done..... another matter. |
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These executive orders are scary and need to disappear! I suggest researching the actual orders online as many of them dont say what is suggested above... |
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These executive orders are scary and need to disappear! I suggest researching the actual orders online as many of them dont say what is suggested above... Those are the interpretations of the executive orders and the powers they enact |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Mon 10/31/11 05:00 PM
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If Obummer was trying to help America, why wouldn't he use the powers enacted by President Kennedy to have the Treasury print our money without debt, instead of driving us further into debt by borrowing from the FED? http://www.rense.com/general44/exec.htm those powers were given to the secretary of treasury, so the president would not have to issue them the secretary still has that option,,, You mean Flighty Gitty? He's a FED boy appointed by Obummer! Yeah, He'll save us by printing money without debt attached all right! But Obummer has NOTHING to do with that either (I'll hear next!) |
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If Obummer was trying to help America, why wouldn't he use the powers enacted by President Kennedy to have the Treasury print our money without debt, instead of driving us further into debt by borrowing from the FED? http://www.rense.com/general44/exec.htm those powers were given to the secretary of treasury, so the president would not have to issue them the secretary still has that option,,, You mean Flighty Gitty? He's a FED boy appointed by Obummer! Yeah, He'll save us by printing money without debt attached all right! But Obummer has NOTHING to do with that either (I'll hear next!) as was the sec of treasury under Kennedy when he signed the order |
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One simple act of the Treasury printing our money and ending FED control would turn this nation around in short order.....Won't happen on Obummers watch. He filled his entire cabinet with bankers and Wall Streeters! The same people who star in the movie "Destroying America By Design"...ALL in Obummers cabinet! |
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