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| Topic: TSA is now Looking for Sex Toys and makng out of line commen | |
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Something similar happened to me at Boise airport when I was leaving after a visit to Jon, I forgot I had packed my new toy in my carry-on instead of my checked bag. The 6' 2" and 6' 4" TSA (male) agents wanted to open my bag and take it out because they thought they were going to embarrass me. They kept giggling like two little boys doing something they shouldn't be doing....until the female TSA agent at the next x-ray turned around at the noise they were making. She came over and smacked them in the back of the heads and said "PUT IT THROUGH!! NOW!! Give her her bag NOW!!"
Instead of reporting them, I told them to buy one for their wives/girlfriends and maybe they wouldn't have to try and see mine. THEY were the ones embarrassed then. |
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I hope they do lose their job, unprofessional and opens them up to liability and the victim CAN sue, hell if someone can win millions of dollars on a lawsuit against McDonalds because their coffee was to hot they can sure as hell sue and win for this a legitimate complaint. hot coffee is something that can be checked, they dont make each cup fresh,,,and it also causes PHYSICAL damages,,, someone writing on a paper (which is probably against the actual company policy in the first place), is not something that causes harm which the company should be held accountable for |
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our courts are too tied up for these types of 'for the money' inquisitions I don't care what their motivation is. Many of us have been mistreated by TSA. I hope she sues and wins, and that this incentives TSA to reign in their agents. I dont wish to see airport security done away with anymore than I do the military I do wish for employees to have the option to act upon inappropriate behaviors of INDIVIDUCALS they hire, as opposed to being used as the pansy for someone to make money off of there is no way for an employer to prevent an employee from being an ***, to hold them responsible when an employee decides to do so,, is beyond farfetched (in my opinion) The question of employer responsibility for employee behavior is a grey one. We cannot hold an employer completely responsible for everything and employee does, but we must hold employers responsible for some of what their employees do. You are making a strawman out of the employer responsibility argument, and seeming to make fairly strong, sweeping generalizations that employers shouldn't be held at all responsible. It all comes down to the particular circumstances. Surely you'd hold a restaurant responsible if you got food poisoning as a result of "an employees actions", if that restaurant was in any way negligent in their training or communicating expectations to their employees. The more fear of retribution for employee misconduct that the TSA has, the better for everyone else. I've personally dealt with a handful of TSA agents who were of the same mentality, maturity, and training as your average thug working as a bouncer at a club. Its a sad state of affairs - they should have higher standards, higher codes of conduct. Fear of negative consequences for employee misconduct would encourage that. Lpdon wrote: I hope they do lose their job, unprofessional and opens them up to liability ...
Lpdon, I'm with you on this one. no strawman here In this case, an employee made a bad PERSONAL decision that should not have anything to do with TSA, especially if TSA has in place (Which Im sure they do) SPECIFIC regulations against such behavior. All that should be expected is a termination for not following company policy. Not a payday for the 'victim'. |
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Inside-Joke at TSA!
"Smell My Finger"! 
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Edited by
Seakolony
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Wed 10/26/11 06:45 AM
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TSA actually will be held accountable for restructuring its policy and procedures for workers. This one complaint could bring about many and a possible class action suit of violating the privacy of passengers. Confidentiality in the workplace violations and restructuring.
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One beautiful young female TSA agent wanted to confiscate my toy
but it was permanently attached to my person since birth. 
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You have to have damages to sue and I don't see how there were any here. But, I would definitely file a complaint. The agent needs a serious reprimand and worse if he/she has behaved in such a way before.
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Mental anguish
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Mental anguish If she "died laughing" about it in her hotel room, there doesn't seem to be much mental anguish over what happened. |
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Mental anguish That's a common misperception that you can just sue for mental anguish with no monetary loss. If that were the case you could sue people for saying anything that upset you. |
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What kills me is that they found a sex toy and had time to comment it but my god son who whose mother is dual citizen Mexican/American and father is here legally Jordanian gets stopped at the airport at 11 years old because he is Soma Ahmed which is a name on the no fly list. This has happened since he was a toddler after 9/11. He was and is clearly too young to be a terrorist but my friend, his mother, has to bring twenty billion kinds of ID to get him from FL to CA to visit my family. I keep telling her to hyphenate his name with her last name so he is Soma Espinosa-Ahmed thus taking him off the no fly list because that name is not on it but his father would be offended and says it's the principal of the thing. Soma Ahmed is like John Smith. And there is no age or description or picture, just a name that they stop you by. She was seriously detained for like 4 hours once when he was 5. They can't figure out that he is not a terrorist but they have time to put cutesy notes in people's luggage. That's special. NOT.
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Mental anguish That's a common misperception that you can just sue for mental anguish with no monetary loss. If that were the case you could sue people for saying anything that upset you. Its also a common perception - and one present in this thread - that if you are suing, you are suing for compensation for damages. You absolutely can sue without monetary loss - especially if you are not suing for financial damages. People sue to have decisions reverse, to have information released, to have people coerced by the court to change their behavior (under threat of consequences), and more. |
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our courts are too tied up for these types of 'for the money' inquisitions I don't care what their motivation is. Many of us have been mistreated by TSA. I hope she sues and wins, and that this incentives TSA to reign in their agents. I dont wish to see airport security done away with anymore than I do the military I do wish for employees to have the option to act upon inappropriate behaviors of INDIVIDUCALS they hire, as opposed to being used as the pansy for someone to make money off of there is no way for an employer to prevent an employee from being an ***, to hold them responsible when an employee decides to do so,, is beyond farfetched (in my opinion) The question of employer responsibility for employee behavior is a grey one. We cannot hold an employer completely responsible for everything and employee does, but we must hold employers responsible for some of what their employees do. You are making a strawman out of the employer responsibility argument, and seeming to make fairly strong, sweeping generalizations that employers shouldn't be held at all responsible. It all comes down to the particular circumstances. Surely you'd hold a restaurant responsible if you got food poisoning as a result of "an employees actions", if that restaurant was in any way negligent in their training or communicating expectations to their employees. The more fear of retribution for employee misconduct that the TSA has, the better for everyone else. I've personally dealt with a handful of TSA agents who were of the same mentality, maturity, and training as your average thug working as a bouncer at a club. Its a sad state of affairs - they should have higher standards, higher codes of conduct. Fear of negative consequences for employee misconduct would encourage that. Lpdon wrote: I hope they do lose their job, unprofessional and opens them up to liability ...
Lpdon, I'm with you on this one. no strawman here It seems to me that several people have made the argument that the employer should be held responsible, and you seem to be arguing that an employer cannot be held completely responsible for everything. If thats true, and if you think thats relevant to the discussion, then you are making a straw man out of the counter argument - as no one here is suggesting that employers be held completely responsible for everything and employee does. In this case,
Just to be clear, I'm talking about the line of discussion here which was generalized, like "there is no way for an employer to prevent an employee from being an ***, to hold them responsible when an employee decides to do so,, is beyond farfetched". Since you didn't say 'in this case', it sounds like you are making a general statement of what an employer can or cannot do, or ought or ought not be expected to do. an employee made a bad PERSONAL decision that should not have anything to do with TSA, especially if TSA has in place (Which Im sure they do) SPECIFIC regulations against such behavior.
All that should be expected is a termination for not following company policy. Not a payday for the 'victim'. Not have anything to do with the employer? And yet you agree they should fire him? If you think they should fire him, then you recognize that the employer is somewhat responsible for his conduct - you just draw the lines at certain places. If you think the employer should have specific regulations, then you agree the employer is somewhat responsible for the behavior of their employees. Suppose they fail to fire him - and he does it again? Are they even 'more responsible', at that point, for his behavior? |
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