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I think of value when I hear 'respect' it has no connection to 'favoritism' for me as favoritism means placing someone ABOVE others I respect many people without placing them 'above' others I can respect what people do or what they accomplish and it translates to respecting the person on some level but I dont necessarily have FAVORITISM for a person because I am able to respect something about them there is a difference between respecting accomplishments or opinions and favoring the person who has achieved or expressed them its kind of like how I view not 'judging' we are to judge actions and words in order to gauge our own, but we are not to pass a judgment of the 'person' because we know no person completely enough to do so,, only God does I was about to respond to Miles but I see that the response was made above. I might just give an example, which also demonstrates what the link in the OP had to share. The word respect, as defined by Miles, has undergone changes. The example that comes to mind is the first ammendment of the Bill of rights: " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Using msharmony's explanation we can understand that in this case respect means to favor over other beleifs. This example also stands out in support of what the speaker from the OP link is trying to convey - that context is the most important aspect of language interpretation. Words can produce minor changes within context or they can produce major changes to the point of being opposite of what we might think. Not every change may effect one's overall belief but knowing that these varaiation exist and can be major, is an important reason to keep an open mind and for those who harbor religious beleifs, faith, without being fundamentally committed to language,is the most important factor in any belief system. When it comes to religious beliefs, faith should always be kept in 'context' with one's beliefs. |
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I think of value when I hear 'respect' it has no connection to 'favoritism' for me as favoritism means placing someone ABOVE others I respect many people without placing them 'above' others I can respect what people do or what they accomplish and it translates to respecting the person on some level but I dont necessarily have FAVORITISM for a person because I am able to respect something about them there is a difference between respecting accomplishments or opinions and favoring the person who has achieved or expressed them its kind of like how I view not 'judging' we are to judge actions and words in order to gauge our own, but we are not to pass a judgment of the 'person' because we know no person completely enough to do so,, only God does I was about to respond to Miles but I see that the response was made above. I might just give an example, which also demonstrates what the link in the OP had to share. The word respect, as defined by Miles, has undergone changes. The example that comes to mind is the first ammendment of the Bill of rights: " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Using msharmony's explanation we can understand that in this case respect means to favor over other beleifs. This example also stands out in support of what the speaker from the OP link is trying to convey - that context is the most important aspect of language interpretation. Words can produce minor changes within context or they can produce major changes to the point of being opposite of what we might think. Not every change may effect one's overall belief but knowing that these varaiation exist and can be major, is an important reason to keep an open mind and for those who harbor religious beleifs, faith, without being fundamentally committed to language,is the most important factor in any belief system. When it comes to religious beliefs, faith should always be kept in 'context' with one's beliefs. I agree with that. The problem is most people do not understand what living the word is. to me its like your career. If you want to make the most of it then you are going to learn every thing you can about it. thats how I define " The Living Word" Yahshua our example to follow.. our mentor, our teacher..Blessings..Miles |
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Here would be some example where the words have been changes in the original King James KJV
Acts 12:4 4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. KJV NKJV Acts 12:4 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover . NKJV Yet tradition will stay with Easter.. when No one ever kept Easter that followed Yahshua from those days..Blessings..Miles |
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MorningSong
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Wed 10/19/11 02:58 PM
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The Word of God.... Powerful .. Rich... and Deep .....
Hebrews 4:12 For the WORD OF GOD is QUICK, and POWERFUL, and SHARPER than any TWO EDGED SWORD, PIERCING even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a DISCERNER of the THOUGHTS and INTENTS of the HEART. Psalm 45:3 Gird your sword upon your side, O mighty one; clothe yourself with splendor and majesty. Psalm 149:6 May the praise of God be in their mouths and a double-edged sword in their hands, Proverbs 5:4 but in the end she is bitter as gall, sharp as a double-edged sword. Isaiah 49:2 He made my mouth like a sharpened sword, in the shadow of his hand he hid me; he made me into a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver. Jeremiah 23:29 "IS NOT MY WORD LIKE FIRE ," declares the LORD, "and like a HAMMER THAT BREAKS A ROCK IN PIECES? John 12:48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my WORDS; that very WORD which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. Acts 7:38 He was in the assembly in the desert, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers; and he received LIVING WORDS TO PASS ON TO US . Ephesians 5:26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the WORD, Ephesians 6:17 Take the helmet of salvation and the SWORD of the Spirit, which is the WORD OF GOD. 1 Thessalonians 2:13 And we also thank God continually because, when you RECEIVED the WORD OF GOD, which you HEARD from us, you ACCEPTED it NOT as the word of men, but as it ACTUALLY IS , the WORD OF GOD, which is AT WORK in you who BELIEVE. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Hebrews 6:5 who have tasted the GOODNESS of the WORD OF GOD and the powers of the coming age, 1 Peter 1:23 For you have been BORN AGAIN, not of perishable seed, but of IMPERISHABLE, through the LIVING and ENDURING WORD OF GOD. Revelation 1:16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and out of his mouth came a SHARP DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance. kjv and niv |
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MorningSong
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Wed 10/19/11 02:52 PM
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Here would be some example where the words have been changes in the original King James KJV Acts 12:4 4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. KJV NKJV Acts 12:4 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover . NKJV Yet tradition will stay with Easter.. when No one ever kept Easter that followed Yahshua from those days..Blessings..Miles But The MEANING of God's Word above, has NOT changed. The MEANING of God's Word in most translations have NOT changed. (And for those who HAVE changed God's Word ,as some versions by false teachings have done, they will NOT stand !!!) OUR....ALMIGHTY...GOD ...IS...MORE...THAN... ABLE.... TO...KEEP...WATCH.... OVER ...HIS....HOLY.... WORD !!! YA THINK? |
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This is an interesting article about some of the challenges of accurately interpreting the bible http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-joel-hoffman/five-ways-your-bible-tran_b_1007058.html Besides all of that. The bible is a book of stories that do not depict one thing or story line because they are written by many different authors at different times in history with different stories to tell. So the whole thing being one big book of stories it shouldn't be attempted to make it into sense. That is a waste of time and energy. |
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This is an interesting article about some of the challenges of accurately interpreting the bible http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-joel-hoffman/five-ways-your-bible-tran_b_1007058.html Besides all of that. The bible is a book of stories that do not depict one thing or story line because they are written by many different authors at different times in history with different stories to tell. So the whole thing being one big book of stories it shouldn't be attempted to make it into sense. That is a waste of time and energy. It already makes sense... It's about oppression and how one should lift everyone else up instead of putting everyone down... Over-simplified? Yeah, but who cares what I think... |
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Here would be some example where the words have been changes in the original King James KJV Acts 12:4 4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. KJV NKJV Acts 12:4 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover . NKJV Yet tradition will stay with Easter.. when No one ever kept Easter that followed Yahshua from those days..Blessings..Miles But The MEANING of God's Word above, has NOT changed. The MEANING of God's Word in most translations have NOT changed. (And for those who HAVE changed God's Word ,as some versions by false teachings have done, they will NOT stand !!!) OUR....ALMIGHTY...GOD ...IS...MORE...THAN... ABLE.... TO...KEEP...WATCH.... OVER ...HIS....HOLY.... WORD !!! YA THINK? are the churches that keep easter doing the word then? |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Wed 10/19/11 06:31 PM
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Jesus dealt with the legalistic religious pharisees and sadducees even back then..... and so do we ....even still today....... |
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Jesus dealt with the legalistic religious pharisees and sadducees even back then..... and so do we ....even still today....... I agree.. he still is.. but u did not answer my question.. Is Easter Biblical? |
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Jesus dealt with the legalistic religious pharisees and sadducees even back then..... and so do we ....even still today....... I agree.. he still is.. but u did not answer my question.. Is Easter Biblical? A man made holiday started by the Catholic Church. The word "Easter," only found in the King James Bible, is a mistranslation of "Passover." |
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Jesus dealt with the legalistic religious pharisees and sadducees even back then..... and so do we ....even still today....... I agree.. he still is.. but u did not answer my question.. Is Easter Biblical? A man made holiday started by the Catholic Church. The word "Easter," only found in the King James Bible, is a mistranslation of "Passover." Thanks for your input cowboy.. I am interested in what morningsongs belief is on this..Blessings..Miles |
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On Easter Sunday ,Believers Celebrate the
Ressurrection of Jesus. Not easter bunnies. Born again Believers are not too concerned with what label man puts on the day....simply because in our hearts, we already know the TRUE meaning of what that day Represents. After this, I prefer not to waste my time on religiousity nonsense, if you don't mind. I would rather focus on what Christanity is supposed to really be all about.....sharing the Gospel . Be Blessed now..... and Thank You for understanding.... |
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On Easter Sunday ,Believers Celebrate the Ressurrection of Jesus. Not easter bunnies. Born again Believers are not too concerned with what label man puts on the day....simply because in our hearts, we already know the TRUE meaning of what that day Represents. After this, I prefer not to waste my time on religiousity nonsense, if you don't mind. I would rather focus on what Christanity is supposed to really be all about.....sharing the Gospel . Be Blessed now..... and Thank You for understanding.... Amen MorningSong. Easter is about the resurrection of Jesus. Regardless if the term "Easter" is used in the bible or not. It's a celebration made in memory of Jesus Christ and what he did for us. |
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Exactly.
(((((((Cowboy)))))))) ((((((Miles)))))))) (((((((Everyone else)))))))) Goodnite to All Now....Be Blessed Now.... |
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Exactly. (((((((Cowboy)))))))) ((((((Miles)))))))) (((((((Everyone else)))))))) Goodnite to All Now....Be Blessed Now.... I understand.. we do not want to see what scriptures say.. they are old.. the NT is done away also.. we have a new Bible.. Its in my heart and We can do what ever my heart desires.. Because I have the Holy Spirit and you don't..hahahah is that it.. yea thats it.. he came to save me and the old man was wrong.. I am right.. |
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On Easter Sunday ,Believers Celebrate the Ressurrection of Jesus. Not easter bunnies. Born again Believers are not too concerned with what label man puts on the day....simply because in our hearts, we already know the TRUE meaning of what that day Represents. After this, I prefer not to waste my time on religiousity nonsense, if you don't mind. I would rather focus on what Christanity is supposed to really be all about.....sharing the Gospel . Be Blessed now..... and Thank You for understanding.... Amen MorningSong. Easter is about the resurrection of Jesus. Regardless if the term "Easter" is used in the bible or not. It's a celebration made in memory of Jesus Christ and what he did for us. Strange... I thought it was the time to give thanks that the Angel of Death took not a single Jew... When Egypt refused God yet again. |
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This is an interesting article about some of the challenges of accurately interpreting the bible http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-joel-hoffman/five-ways-your-bible-tran_b_1007058.html Besides all of that. The bible is a book of stories that do not depict one thing or story line because they are written by many different authors at different times in history with different stories to tell. So the whole thing being one big book of stories it shouldn't be attempted to make it into sense. That is a waste of time and energy. its not one book though, its a compilation of books and verses much like chapters of a history book, they dont have to all be from the same perspective or source to be relevant or make sense |
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In addition to the many difficulties in translation there is also the need to interpret the intent and the point of various parts of the Bible and other sacred texts. It is through this study that we all become more attuned to issues surrounding right and wrong and human behavior and motivations as well as the existence and nature of God. The Bible needs to be read in its original language, translate properly, and interpreted properly like any work from antiquity. Even more than most because of its subject matter. |
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In addition to the many difficulties in translation there is also the need to interpret the intent and the point of various parts of the Bible and other sacred texts. It is through this study that we all become more attuned to issues surrounding right and wrong and human behavior and motivations as well as the existence and nature of God. The Bible needs to be read in its original language, translate properly, and interpreted properly like any work from antiquity. Even more than most because of its subject matter. Great Post.. most logical thinking i have seen for awhile.. Top of my hat to ya s1owhand Blessings..Miles |
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