If that were true, that (Christianity is not a religion but a relationship.) then why would you need to seek any other relationship (IE: a spouse.)

I think God is within, and everywhere, therefore seeking is not necessary.

you dont need to seek any other relationship. you want to seek other relationships.

God and Man can have many relationships

one way is through religion


just like man and woman can have many relationships

through friendship, or intimacy, or marriage


,, I think we do seek these things often, and they all lead to the same desire,, the desire to 'relate' to someone/something...

True, I have several Bibles in my house and they don't do a thing to me.





Men are to take care of their women? Well your mama taught you right. Then why does the man come home from work and expect the woman to fix his dinner, wash his clothes, tend to the children etc. when the woman also had to work all day long?

Okay you men, listen up! Start taking care of your women!

Okay but only over the Internet.

u tell them jeannie

men and women should take care of EACH OTHER, not just one direction there


,,the problem is, too many think the mans 'job' has a clock out time while the womans 'job' shouldnt have one

NOPE,,,, while/if the man is out providing, its fair that thw eoman be in the home taking care of things there

BUT

once the man is no longer out providing and comes home,, it becomes a partnership taking care of the home,, or at least it should, if we truly adhere to the spirit of taking care of EACH OTHER...

This day and age, women often have to work at jobs too. So don't expect your wife to wait on you hand and foot and cook and clean and tend to the children if they also have to work outside the home.

And don't kid yourself into thinking that tending to the children and cooking for you and them is not a JOB. Try paying a housekeeper, babysitter, going to the laundry yourself, cooking your own meals and see how much of a job that is.

And when you retire, don't expect your wife to continue doing all that stuff while you sit on the couch with the remote.

Im beside you 100% on this one. In the situation where BOTH are providing, BOTH should also be taking care of home.

The responsibilities inside the home are as much of a 'JOB' as those someone else gets paid for.

And taking care of your spouse is not in synch with feeling comfortable sitting on your behind while they slave away all around you.

The Unwritten Book Of Eve "IT"

*In tribute to Stephen King's book, "IT"*

Once upon a time there was this big mud ball.
And on the big mud ball was a little mud ball.
The little mud ball became known as Adam.
Adam named things and said, "Hi, I'm, Adam".
Adam talked to things and called them names.
Adam would hear this voice and play games.
This voice told Adam that "IT" was his friend.
"IT" kept Adam from being lonely to the end.
The voice said Adam was from the mud ball.
"IT" told Adam to name things big and small.
Adam decided he was alone on the mud ball.
He really didn't like that feeling at all.
One day he woke up and found something new.
He never seen "IT" before and named "IT", too.
He pointed right at "IT" and said, "You're Eve".
"IT" said, "Yeah, whose says, I am Eve".
"IT" terrified Adam because "IT" talked back.
Adam asked the voice to please take "IT" back.
The voice said no; You are stuck with "IT".
Adam asked, "But what do I do with "IT".
The voice said "IT" is a present deal with "IT".

msharmony, will work on the tone, thanks. am constrained for space. In every team there's a leader and God made man the head of the household which comprises his helpmeet and children. i believe that if we let God chose our helpmeet, there will be complete harmony in the home as each spouse would complement the other. It's about finding out how God reaches us particularly and being receptive to his will. He actually loves us more than we know, and He's willing to guide us if we'll cooperate with him.

How are you constrained for space?

Men are not always the "best leader" in a relationship, so that's not a rule that has to be followed. I don't think God cares who leads or follows.

(My will and God's will are one and the same.)

And if it were true, why is there such strict limits on how one defines it? Religion= rules, and Christianity has them by the bucketful.

Again I say that there is no reason to seek God.

In my opinion, we are here to live many lives - and for the expansion of the universe and consciousness, not to play hide and seek with God.

Because the relationship one has with God is not the relationship one has with a spouse. Different forms of relationships, thus even though one has a relationship with God one still desires a relationship with a spouse.

And this action is not supported by the bible eg., the man goes to work, then the man come home and EXPECT dinner, wash his cloths, ect. If the man just automatically "expects" these things, then he is taking these things for granted and doesn't truly mean anything emotionally to him. He's just taking those things for granted and expects them to be done. That is a personal thing of someone, that is not biblically taught.

How can one be caring and considerate but on the other hand "demand" dinner? And or "demand" for the woman to wait on him hand and foot more or less.... how is that caring or considerate? It's not, thus again, is not supported by the Christian belief.

Depends on what church you go to Cowboy.

Don't listen to "church". Listen to what God tells you through the scriptures. Keep things in context in your reading. Again, a man is to love and cherish his wife, actions speak louder then words, love is not shown by a man by griping, complaining, or controlling his wife to absolutely make sure dinner is on the table. Something may have come up, a kid got sick or anything. The word Christian, has the root "Christ"ian. We are to be patient and loving towards everyone, and this is not shown by griping and or complaining cause something didn't happen in the time they expected it to, or even if it doesn't happen. Maybe the wife wasn't feeling good, or any many possible reasons. God teaches us to have compassion to one another and again this is not shown by doing as such.

The Unwritten Book Of Eve~Knock, Knock

Knock, Knock
Whose there?
God
God who?
Just God
Eve, I think its one of your relatives.
One of my relatives?
Adam, You are the only person I know.
Well, Its not one of my relatives.
Go see what he wants, Eve.
How do you know that is a he?
OK, go see wants she wants then.
How come I always have to be the bad guy?
Adam wants to know what you want.
Hey, where are you anyways?
I am a spirit, Eve.
Thats why you can't see me.
You sure you are not one of Adam's drinking buddies?
No, Eve.
I am a spirit.
I don't drink.
Well, what did it say, Eve?
You want to know what it says; You ask it Adam.
Fine.
Whatever.

I am going to add something here .


NO man can live a righteous life without Christ.

Trying to love a mate, for instance,

and attempting to

be Christ like, JUST because the WORD tells one to.......

or

in other words,


TRYING to do all the good that God teaches one to do in

His Word, WITHOUT being first born again,

simply becomes just WORKS !!!

RELIGIOUS WORKS.


WHICH, at least, UNTIL a person is born again, really isn't

bad.....

because it does at LEAST, TEACH man from the outside in , on how

to live and love one's mate, for instance.


BUT it is all still just RELIGIOUS WORKS.


This is why RELIGION ,therefore, can only make an ATTEMPT at

emulating CHRIST, OR being

Christlike......

BUT, is an OUTWARD attempt only....

or again...just works.

Why?


Because, in order to have a TRUE and LASTING heart change,

an INWARD change needs to take place first.



HOW does an INWARD change take place?


God , thru the Power of His Holy Spirit ,has to COME IN, and change

one from the INSIDE, in order that

man can truly love his mate now as Christ loves the church, for

instance.

And then also , there will be evidence of change on the

outside.

See the difference?


This is why religion can ONLY ATTEMPT

to change man from the OUTSIDE in....


whereas,


RELATIONSHIP changes man from the INSIDE out....

and that RELATIONSHIP comes ONLY from being born again.



How is one born again?

When one thru Faith , believes and invites Jesus in , and God

thru the Power of the Holy Spirit, comes in and INDWELLS

that person,

making that person a NEW CREATION in

CHRIST.


THUS, changing that new believer from the INSIDE out.


AND NOW, that believer has a RELATIONSHIP back with God...just as

it was in the beginning!!!


And because that person NOW has a RELATIONSHIP back with God,

he also will have had a heart change.


"Old things are passed away...behold, all things have now become

NEW".

INCLUDING the ability to LOVE now, as GOD Loves.



See the difference?



Tht is why God is interested in RELATIONSHIP with us.... NOT

RELIGION !!!


Again.....


RELIGION can only ATTEMPT to change one from the OUTSIDE in...


RELATIONSHIP changes one from the INSIDE out.



Religion is an attempt at works to please God.


However, when One has a RELATIONSHIP with God now, works WILL

FOLLOW ,

BUT...THIS TIME

the works will be done out of

LOVE one has for God now ,

because of a heart change that has taken

place within that person (as a result of being born again).......


meaning........the works will

NO LONGER be done just out of a religious

attempt to please God !!!



See now?

Christ is within.