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| Topic: Actress Daryl Hannah Arrested at White House | |
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Freedom at work once again........oppose the message? Arrest them! Yeah that's definitely freedom to me. Sure takes a big man to arrest someone for protesting what they're told. Here's an idea, LISTEN TO THEM! You're supposed to work for US, not US working for you! It's BS like this that is EXACTLY why those in power get no respect from the people. When push comes to shove, time and time again they have shown they could give two rats about the will of the people. Well that can go both ways, you don't care about us, why should we care about you then? they werent arrested for protesting what they were told, they were arrested for not doing it according to the 'rules' in place for such demonstrations many other demonstrations have gone on successfully in protest of what people were told,,, know why? because they followed the guidelines set for holding demonstrations on the white house grounds,,, Who were they harming by protesting? Tell me who! Unless someone was actually being threatened, let em protest! Screw all the damn rules and red tape. I know, according to some, rules suck unless they are the ones following them and someone else is permitted , under the same circumstances, to break theem its more than 'harming' people in some physical sense that some are so limited in their consideration its also a matter of RESPECTING space and territory, even if it doesnt seem to physically 'harm' someone at the time All a lot of the rules especially when it comes to governments and corporations go, is about to me is obedience to our masters. Well I refuse to obey someone I don't respect. Respect is earned in my opinion, and the government hasn't earned one bit of it to me. Why don't they follow their own damn rules for a change? They never seem to, they can get away with any damn thing they want, but can we? No! They are hypocrites. Have you seen any black helocopters lately? |
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Edited by
Kleisto
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Mon 09/05/11 10:45 PM
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we are lucky we can protest at all especially in high tourist areas where people are making income and potential consumers can be turned away or discouraged from coming its not always about whatever we feel like doing,,,, Are you suggesting we shouldn't even be allowed to do that??? Am I understanding you right?? No, IM suggesting that we are LUCKY to be afforded such a freedom and that having some GUIDELINES to that fortunate freedom is not too much to ask or unreasonable by any standards... The problem is, once you let them dictate one thing, they will want to dictate something else, and then something else after that and so on and so forth until they are dictating EVERYTHING we do. We're pretty damn close to that point now. You give an inch they will take a mile and they have. Well, thats an opinion , we are all entitled to our own I think believing we have to have NO rules in order to avoid complete dictatorship is fallacious logic at its scariest,,, Well I think it's just as scary if not scarier at the amount of people who blindly obey government like they really give a damn about us, so we're even. theres that word 'blindly',, how about those who follow laws and rules that seem to have reason and justification which MOST laws do and those who follow laws who dont find the harm in doing so and dont find the consequences worth not doing so,, All I will say is, when all your freedoms and rights are gone (and that day is coming if it isn't already here), it will be YOUR fault (not singling out just you BTW but those who think like you do), because you did nothing to prevent it. We need to protect them and we are not doing it. They say evil prevails when good men do nothing, well no more is it true than it is today. Interesting you mention consequences too, that's another way they get us, by fear. "If you don't do what you're told you'll be in trouble". Freedom that is not, that is blackmail. And I stand by what I said, a lot of people do follow blindly not even realizing what they are following, or what the agenda behind the law is. Those that want the laws passed will ALWAYS find a justification for them, but it does not mean they are right. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 09/05/11 11:39 PM
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we are lucky we can protest at all especially in high tourist areas where people are making income and potential consumers can be turned away or discouraged from coming its not always about whatever we feel like doing,,,, Are you suggesting we shouldn't even be allowed to do that??? Am I understanding you right?? No, IM suggesting that we are LUCKY to be afforded such a freedom and that having some GUIDELINES to that fortunate freedom is not too much to ask or unreasonable by any standards... The problem is, once you let them dictate one thing, they will want to dictate something else, and then something else after that and so on and so forth until they are dictating EVERYTHING we do. We're pretty damn close to that point now. You give an inch they will take a mile and they have. Well, thats an opinion , we are all entitled to our own I think believing we have to have NO rules in order to avoid complete dictatorship is fallacious logic at its scariest,,, Well I think it's just as scary if not scarier at the amount of people who blindly obey government like they really give a damn about us, so we're even. theres that word 'blindly',, how about those who follow laws and rules that seem to have reason and justification which MOST laws do and those who follow laws who dont find the harm in doing so and dont find the consequences worth not doing so,, All I will say is, when all your freedoms and rights are gone (and that day is coming if it isn't already here), it will be YOUR fault (not singling out just you BTW but those who think like you do), because you did nothing to prevent it. We need to protect them and we are not doing it. They say evil prevails when good men do nothing, well no more is it true than it is today. Interesting you mention consequences too, that's another way they get us, by fear. "If you don't do what you're told you'll be in trouble". Freedom that is not, that is blackmail. And I stand by what I said, a lot of people do follow blindly not even realizing what they are following, or what the agenda behind the law is. Those that want the laws passed will ALWAYS find a justification for them, but it does not mean they are right. I will fight for rights that are important to me,, if I feel a law infringes upon them I will fight that too, as should everyone what about that law that women couldn finally own land, did allowing that one to pass cause the powers to be to become dictators? or the law that minorities could vote,, did that one lead to dictatorship? there are laws that are sound and just, and they in no way have to or do lead to some type of total abuse of power or total dictatorship I can see why it would be necessary to curb certain behavior during demonstrations in spot that is so close to our commander in chief for one, and such a tourist attraction for another I dont feel such observational crowd control is unreasonable at all, so I dont get outraged or paranoid about it that is a far stretch from the logic that if I dont disagree with ALL laws than I must be AGREEING with and allowing ANY laws... |
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well maybe they should build a big refinery in montana for this oil
that would eliminate the need to build such a long pipeline to a refinery that could get hit by an hurricane but then i bet they would protest that as well but hey what do i know |
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well maybe they should build a big refinery in montana for this oil
This probably wouldn't serve the needs of the Texas oil refineries who need the finished product to be where they can ship it overseas. |
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It might be worth pointing out that it was Darryl Hannahs' purpose to be arrested. The media don't seem to give much coverage to left-wing demonstrations, while a couple of dozen Tea-partiers will draw cameramen from every news outlet in the country.
In a way, the rules at the Capitol were only a benefit to the protestors. They provided a relatively benign object that was needed for some mild civil disobedience to bring the needed attention. |
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well maybe they should build a big refinery in montana for this oil
This probably wouldn't serve the needs of the Texas oil refineries who need the finished product to be where they can ship it overseas. what montana north n south dakota wisconsin minnisota idaho washington nebraska and oregon dont need refined oil products???? |
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oh maybe they should move the pipline to seatle and build a big refinery there
then they could ship it and supply the american north west both hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm like that would be permitted |
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what montana north n south dakota wisconsin minnisota idaho washington nebraska and oregon dont need refined oil products????
This oil isn't going to America. The refineries get a better price for it overseas. As of Nov, 2010 America has become a net exporter of oil. http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTPNTUS2&f=M[/url |
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