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Topic: Is it right or sinful to be wedded in court
Supremekizz's photo
Mon 08/08/11 06:44 AM
To me is not right at all bcos it is surpose to be blessed by God not man

Kleisto's photo
Mon 08/08/11 07:17 AM
To me if you're committed to each other it really doesn't matter. Hell you don't even need a ceremony to make the commitment.

I'm not wild about the government being a part of our marriages though, but......there's really no sin in any of it. Sin doesn't exist anyway, just a lie of men.

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 08/08/11 08:16 AM
to each his own

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/08/11 11:27 AM

To me is not right at all bcos it is surpose to be blessed by God not man


Well, then don't do it.

Seems simple enough.

Indulgent243's photo
Mon 08/08/11 01:56 PM

To me is not right at all bcos it is surpose to be blessed by God not man




Well said. In here lies the answer to all the problems with gay marriage


The government should not have anything to do with marriage at all. Not one bit. They should not have legal ceremonies nor should ones marital status have an concern over taxes or tax rates


Marriage is a religious ceremony and should be seperated from our government totally. If your church wants to marry a man and woman or two men or a cat and a dog that should be your right to have faith however you want it but the government should have no say in the matter at all


No gay marriage, no straight marriage... no civil unions or anything else. Just cut it totally out of the governments control then all the religious fanatics can go back to calling each other false or backwards and claiming to know the one true way while the government governs without favoring any one of them

Niceladyrealy's photo
Mon 08/08/11 02:23 PM
I think it doesnt matr if you get maried in court. God will be watching you,anyways anywhere you are making a comitment to god. The building is irelevant. If you cant aford a church weding god wil not condem you becuz ugot maried in court.

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 08/08/11 02:54 PM


To me is not right at all bcos it is surpose to be blessed by God not man


Marriage is a religious ceremony


This is not true for everyone!!

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/08/11 04:13 PM


To me is not right at all bcos it is surpose to be blessed by God not man




Well said. In here lies the answer to all the problems with gay marriage


The government should not have anything to do with marriage at all. Not one bit. They should not have legal ceremonies nor should ones marital status have an concern over taxes or tax rates


Marriage is a religious ceremony and should be seperated from our government totally. If your church wants to marry a man and woman or two men or a cat and a dog that should be your right to have faith however you want it but the government should have no say in the matter at all


No gay marriage, no straight marriage... no civil unions or anything else. Just cut it totally out of the governments control then all the religious fanatics can go back to calling each other false or backwards and claiming to know the one true way while the government governs without favoring any one of them


I agree!

Government really shouldn't be involved in people's private relationships at all. It's simply not their business.

Why should government favor married people over single citizens anyway? Everyone should be treated as as single citizen whether they are part of a family or not.

RainbowTrout's photo
Mon 08/08/11 04:21 PM
What a loaded question! Is it right or sinful to get married? Does the court or the church make getting married right and free of sin? If a single person asked a married person if they felt blessed what would the answer be? Does it necessarily bless two people if they are married in church? Is there a difference in marital bliss and marital bless? If you have been married before in church did you feel blessed afterwards? Marriage seems more like a case of liability to me because you make yourself liable when you get married. The same thing with commitment. Marriage can ask the question: Do you give yourself to be sacrificed to commitment? Do you think the other person should be sacrificed to you in the same way? Would you feel blessed if you had a piece of paper that you could fall back on that others witnessed so that if you didn't feel blessed any more? I like the call of separation of church and state. When churches start doing divorces then I think churches would be okay to do marriages. But until then not all the liability angles have been worked out, yet. Having been married before and institutionalized at other type of institutions other than marriage I think it is best to keep the state and the church out of decisions that really do not concern them. But then I think there can be such a thing as too much church and too much state.

no photo
Mon 08/08/11 04:26 PM
Drive-thru Las Vegas weddings for the win!

RainbowTrout's photo
Mon 08/08/11 04:29 PM

Drive-thru Las Vegas weddings for the win!


I take it that you don't mean that to be hit and run.:smile:

RainbowTrout's photo
Mon 08/08/11 04:31 PM
Sorry. I was thinking of the cave men days where you just took a club to someone you liked and brought them back to the cave.laugh

RainbowTrout's photo
Mon 08/08/11 04:33 PM
Of course if you called your club God I guess it could be blessed by God.laugh

jrbogie's photo
Mon 08/08/11 05:43 PM
it's not a question of being right or sinful. it's a question of law. neither of my weddings were religious in nature and i was lawfully married twice. it's only SUPPOSED to be blessed by god if one believes in god.

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/08/11 06:14 PM

Sorry. I was thinking of the cave men days where you just took a club to someone you liked and brought them back to the cave.laugh


Well according to the Holy Bible if a man rapes a woman in a field where no one can hear her cry for help, then he has to marry her.

And of course she has to marry him too, after all, in the Bible women have no say in these matters. bigsmile

Of course if you called your club God I guess it could be blessed by God. laugh


Or you could just use the Holy Bible as your club. bigsmile

RainbowTrout's photo
Mon 08/08/11 06:36 PM


Sorry. I was thinking of the cave men days where you just took a club to someone you liked and brought them back to the cave.laugh


Well according to the Holy Bible if a man rapes a woman in a field where no one can hear her cry for help, then he has to marry her.

And of course she has to marry him too, after all, in the Bible women have no say in these matters. bigsmile

Of course if you called your club God I guess it could be blessed by God. laugh


Or you could just use the Holy Bible as your club. bigsmile


Good point. I think that is how Bible thumping got started. I got thumped by a dictionary by an English teacher once. Catholics used to thump with a ruler I am told.

I enjoyed reading this, James.
http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/4019.htm
I thought it was interesting.:smile:

jrbogie's photo
Mon 08/08/11 06:50 PM


To me is not right at all bcos it is surpose to be blessed by God not man




Well said. In here lies the answer to all the problems with gay marriage


The government should not have anything to do with marriage at all. Not one bit. They should not have legal ceremonies nor should ones marital status have an concern over taxes or tax rates


Marriage is a religious ceremony and should be seperated from our government totally. If your church wants to marry a man and woman or two men or a cat and a dog that should be your right to have faith however you want it but the government should have no say in the matter at all


No gay marriage, no straight marriage... no civil unions or anything else. Just cut it totally out of the governments control then all the religious fanatics can go back to calling each other false or backwards and claiming to know the one true way while the government governs without favoring any one of them


so government requiring a binding legal contract that protects both spouses and childeren should not happen??? we can just marry and later divorce at will with no obligation to the husband and father, for instance, to provide financial support to a stay at home wife and mother who put off her career to raise the kids? and what about the kids? should pop simply be allowed to utilize his earning potential that he was able to build during those years of marriage while the wife nurtured them just for himself and his future? do wife and kids just go without now that the government is not involved???

RainbowTrout's photo
Mon 08/08/11 06:53 PM
But then I have read where men and women like to go clubbing together. One form of therapy I read about is these Styrofoam bats that a couple can use to beat each other up with. They are supposed to be soft. Problem is a couple can give up on beating each other up after they see that it is hard to win with a bat with no real substance to it.laugh

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 08/08/11 07:41 PM

I enjoyed reading this, James.
http://www.enduringword.com/commentaries/4019.htm
I thought it was interesting.:smile:


Those people had truly crazy superstitious beliefs back then.

And unfortunately, their superstitious beliefs became the foundations for modern day religions. ohwell

It was an interesting read though. drinker

Indulgent243's photo
Mon 08/08/11 08:23 PM
Edited by Indulgent243 on Mon 08/08/11 08:25 PM

Some intelligent questions, thanks for that. At the risk of sounding less liberal and more libetarian than I may be on the whole, I will take a stab at answering them





so government requiring a binding legal contract that protects both spouses and childeren should not happen???



Protect them from what? Men and women already run out on their spouses and children with the government having little ability to control it. Both sides need to be more patient and cautious when chosing a mate





we can just marry and later divorce at will with no obligation to the husband and father, for instance, to provide financial support to a stay at home wife and mother who put off her career to raise the kids? and what about the kids?



Americans marry and divorce at will anyway. The only real influence over who gets what during a divorce is the amount of money each side can pour in to getting a good lawyer

I will even dare to say that both women and men should be a little more picky in their choices of mates and only have children when they themselves are prepared for it. Personal responsibility is a bit much to ask here in the western world I know, but I am guilty of being a bit of an idealist





do wife and kids just go without now that the government is not involved???


In other countries there exists much less of this divorce culture than we have here. With things like traditional Indian arranged marriage and even the more western seeming Chinese marriage you have more of a focus on the two families coming together than simply two people with stars in their eyes for one another

Now that China is becoming more like America in its views on romance and marriage you have a rising divorce rate there but in situations where the couples parents still have a say you have the lower rates of divorce

If a woman can not find a man who is family oriented and eager to raise and provide for his own children then maybe she should curb her need to help overpopulate the world with another mouth waiting to gobble up resources and do something useful like go to school

My own marriage is one chosen for love rather than arranged, but our aim is not to have children nor would I have financial hardship should I change my mind and decide to have one



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